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Hi there! My names Tatunaka, although my nickname currently disagrees ;v I used to be a member here like 2 years ago but I wasnt active or anything so I thought Id reintroduce myself. I havent played vns in a LOOOOOOOOONG time and I want to get back to it so here I am again. ^.^ Love you all already <3

Looking closely... I almost accidentally did a sequel to Dergonu's list but with male on male action only. Okay, serious intro now, there's some light games here too. I promised I would do one for BL games after I did the otomege one. It took a while, but here it is, at last! Except this time I made it a bit shorter because a) there's way more untranslated easier-to-be-ignored than translated stuff and b) I didn't read any BL OELVN that was really worth mentioning here and this time Lesiak can't help me. And I tried to focus in games that gives you exclusively male on male content, because we already have plenty of lists full of moaning girls but no one with moaning boys. Again, this is mainly my opinion, but I also heard some other BL fans to create this list. Lastly, I tried to put different styles of games, even if most of them are plotges (charages seems to be a rare trend in BL). Order is random, like always. But I added some descriptions this time! Translated BL games 01 - DRAMAtical Murder Notable tags: Cyberpunk, Virtual Reality, Mind Control Perfect if: you never played a BL VN before, and don't mind a bit of porn. Simply the most popular BL game around and the first BL title for most people. Because the route structure is so easy, it's very beginner friendly! The characters are all likable and most routes have an interesting plot and not only focus in sex stuff in the romance. The presentation is also of excellent quality, with lots of special effects (Well, it's Nitro+ after all). The bad endings can get strangely dark too. MC always on bottom. 02 - Sweet Pool Notable tags: High School, Bloody Scenes, Utsuge Perfect if: you already saw plenty of weird BL around. One of the darkest BL translated, it's really a pool of despair. Its plot also contains lots of horror elements, the complete opposite of the upbeat Dramatical Murder above. And they were made by the same people, geez. MC always on bottom. 03 - Lamento ~Beyond the Void~ Notable tags: Nekomimi Hero, Fantasy, Action Perfect if: you're starting with BL and don't bother with something a bit long, and if you love catboys. A fantasy title with a lighter tone, it follows the journey of a catboy and his friends. It have few routes, but lots of the others characters have enough screen time for you to care about everyone. Even the villains. MC always on bottom. 04 - No, Thank You!!! Notable tags: Perverted Protagonist, Unlockable Bonus Content, Multiple Route Mystery Perfect if: you want more muscular guys and the "female oriented" titles simply don't click with you. This game's target audience is more gay men than women, unlike most of the titles on this list. And we can see this bc MC's always on top (look at the rest of the games, MC usually on bottom), even with those more muscular way-taller-than-him guys. There's more on this game's plot than it seems... Art was made by the same artist as euphoria and there's a body hair option. MG version also have no mosaics at all~ 05 - Hadaka Shitsuji Notable tags: Master and Servant, Sadist Protagonist, High Amount of Bad Endings Perfect if: you have a refined sense of humour and knows that the "comedic rape" tag exists in VNDB. This thing is almost a rite of passage by now. It's weird sense of humor, sheer ridiculousness and good variation of heroes are its selling points. Pretty much a single guy (not girl, guy) made the whole game. And it was localized by MG recently! MC usually, probably, allegedly, whatever Fiddle prefer, on top. And there's a bad ending for a girl that you can totally skip. 06 - Animamundi ~Dark Alchemist~ Notable tags: Alchemy, Graphic Violence, No Sexual Content Perfect if: you never played a BL VN before and it's unsure to pick something with porn, want something that actually have female characters. Some can argue that this isn't really a BL game since there's only innuendo and some slightly suggestive CGs (also there are a bunch of girls here, but none romanceable of course), but I'm not really picking the titles by H-scenes here so it counts! Although, the licensed version got rid of all of these CGs, even some bloody ones, so you'll have to use a restoration patch to see them. Just saying the ending/branch system is confusing as hell, so grab a walkthrough!!! The gothic atmosphere is the best and the art is not your usual anime style! 07 - Togainu no Chi Notable tags: Dystopia, Action, Gang Perfect if: you want something more edgy and angsty feeling and can handle a bunch of rape. Super popular, lots of people liked it, so I guess it goes here, even if I wasn't that impressed by it. But if you want to read everything by Nitro+Chiral, don't leave just this one out! It's good for the dark atmosphere and some "lick each other's wounds" and slightly dysfunctional type of romance... MC always on bottom, except with the shota because a shota is always bottom (well, see next one for exception). Untranslated BL games 08 - Shingakkou ~Noli me Tangere~ Notable tags: Horror, Christian Mythology, Boarding School Perfect if: you want to play something in the dark, and thinks that VN shouldn't shy away from some sensitive topics. This game is fantastic! The horror aspect here is very well done. I recently made a review for it in my blog, but enough shameless self-promotion. If you want to pick just one in this list out of curiosity, pick this one! This is not just a good BL VN, it's a good VN, period. You can choose if MC is top or bottom in all routes. 09 - Luckydog1 Notable tags: Crime Family, Prison, Bloody Scenes Perfect if: you want something stylish, and if you like BL doujins of Vento Aureo. A stylish and action oriented game where the protagonist is simply awesome and full of personality! There's lots of violence, but it's also pretty funny. There's a blog around with translations for some few routes, approved by the developers even (as long it's not patched directly in the game, ever). MC always on bottom ("next mafia boss" and you let everyone have their way with you, yeah right...) 10 - Omerta ~Chinmoku no Okite~ Notable tags: Crime, Slums, Unique Routes Perfect if: you want high amounts of gun fights and very good quality H CGs. Okay, more mafia stories, but this one is less violent, less funny, but cool all the same. This game have a wide selection of unique heroes and they are in opposing mafias. So you can side with your favorite or just say "fuck this" to them and join neither. MC is super likable and badass and there's huge amounts of gun trivia (not that I understood half of it so maybe it's all wrong). 4 routes (okay, 3 and 90% of the 4th) out of 7 (yep, lots of guys!) are translated in VNR subs. MC is top in some routes, bottom in others. 11 - Hashihime of Old Book Town Notable tags: Taishou Era, Murder Mystery, Protagonist with Imaginary Friends Perfect if: you like mystery, colorful art and want something without porn (MG will release an all ages edition on Steam). A work with a very dream-like atmosphere and art that somehow reminds me of some Liarsoft stuff. It's incredibly pretty! The story revolves around a murder mystery and a groundhog day. MG will localize this, they are in editing stage already aaaaaaaaaaaah! MC always on bottom. 12 - Bara no Ki ni Bara no Hanasaku Notable tags: Rape Victim Protagonist, Mystery, Forced Cross Dressing Perfect if: you like very girlish guys and play some matchmaking. No muscular man here despite the name. A drama that starts a bit depressing but lights up when the MC gets his answers. I'm a fan of the writer, she's pretty good!!! The culprit is not that hard to guess, but the circunstances are another story. The MC is very very very girlish. And the most unique aspect of the game? The routes. You can pair ANYONE with ANYONE (of the options they give you, of course). You can pick a boy for the MC and put all of the other heroes together! You can also choose who tops and who's bottom in each pair. 13 - Daylight ~Asa ni Hikari no Kan o~ Notable tags: No Sexual Content, The Seven School Mysteries, Multiple Routes Mystery Perfect if: you want something funny and don't want something heavy on romance. Another without sexual content. And like Animamundi, the BL part is kinda mild and subtle, so much that the first time I saw this game I kinda thought it was some Riku x Sora SFW dj (ha, like those exists). Anyway, game starts pretty funny then the mystery stuff kicks in. Plus that even the inner monologues are voiced, so we have and almost completely voiced game! 14 - Pigeon Blood Notable tags: Horror, Blackmail, Gore Perfect if: you are very very far gone in the weird BL stuff and don't mind the constant abuse. Okay, I love horror games. But this one can really give people nightmares. You liked Sweet Pool? Oh boy, this one is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse. Poor MC is abused and humiliated so much, but he's so pure, the poor thing. Every hero is an ass, but sometimes karma gets them YEAH ALL RIGHT! Features animals ripped to pieces, humans ripped to pieces, demons and cannibalism. Enjoy? MC always on bottom. 15 - Room Nº9 Notable tags: High Sexual Content, Utsuge, Trapped Perfect if: you want something messed up and like Clock Up. The catch of this game is almost a nukige premise. MC and his best friend are trapped in a room, and to get out they have to pass through rounds of choosing between physical violence on MC (or you, for all effects) or sexual humiliation on your best friend for some shady human experiment. Starts tame, but... well, it's Clock Up, you get how psychologically damaging it could get for them. Mangagamer will eventually localize this, if they ever start the translation. Recommended if you liked the first half of euphoria! MC always on top, well, it's in the summary... Extra Stuff 16 - Taishou Mebiusline (JP) Notable tags: Military, Sword Combat, Undead Perfect if: you like military uniforms and sword fights with zombie-like things. There's plenty of plot and supernatural fun. Also, the characters aren't abandoned in other guys' routes. Focus more on romance than just sex. I put it in the extras because... it's japanese level it's quite high (I didn't read it because of this), but there's a blog around with the translation of the common route. MC always on bottom. 17 - Day's Eye (JP) (Suggestion by SeniorBlitz) Notable tags: Church, Pure Love Story, Crossdressing Perfect if: you like cute things and sweet stories. Something pure for a change, the poor MC dresses up as a girl "to be able to love another boy like a normal person"... Hug these boys, please. No explicit sexual content, despite the VNDB tag saying otherwise. 18 - Suki na Mono wa Suki Dakara Shouganai!! First Limit (EN) (Suggestion by SeniorBlitz) Notable tags: Childhood Promise, All-Boys School, Group of Friends Perfect if: you like charages and series. School setting, best friend acting weird, anime adaptation and translated? How could I miss this??? Oh yeah, I don't play many charages... 19 - Gakuen Heaven: Boy's Love Scramble! (JP) (Suggestion by SeniorBlitz) Notable tags: All-boys School, Comedy, Map Movement Perfect if: you like light hearted stories. Another charage. 20 - Humanoid ~Eternal Ring~ (JP) Notable tags: Robot Protagonist, Only a Single Hero, No Sexual Content Perfect if: you like free games and truly devoted heroes. And obscure free game that I found extremely cute. It's a pure story about eternal love. It's short but definetely worth your time!

Of course he has to tell when he's dropping a finished translation or he shouldn't have made it public to begin with. The only time when you have no responsibilities in a society is when you have no influence over other people and community. Though if you want to argue an exact word then maybe "owing" is not really the right one, it's more a question of a basic human decency. Do you "owe" anyone to not be an ashhole? No, not really. Is it still important to not be one in a society? Absolutely.

Link here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScDIKmwZWqke60RwQPBVbI-oZXzWjOuokWRaGs0EScsuL1lBw/viewform Unlike MangaGamer, there seems to be no limit in how many you can recommend AND theyre interested in Manga and LNs too. I asked for: 11Gatsu no Arcadia https://vndb.org/v16342 Kiss Bell https://vndb.org/v10641 Kurano-kunchi no Futago Jijou https://vndb.org/v10793 Koi Suru Kanojo no Bukiyou na Butai https://vndb.org/v15393 Nanatsu no Fushigi no Owaru Toki https://vndb.org/v7023 Aete Mushi Suru Kimi to no Mirai ~Relay Broadcast~ https://vndb.org/v10803 Juunin Kanri https://vndb.org/v16342 Kanojo to Ore to https://vndb.org/v10972 Boku no Hitori Sensou https://vndb.org/v15797

I can include Day's Eye but... I seriously didn't wanted to start this rant but... BL games and Trap games are completely different things, for completely different audiences, with different fanbases, let's not mix the two. In VNDB, Traps (sorry for the lack of a better term) are listed as heroines, not heroes, and they're all voiced by females. Even the shotas in these games I put here are voiced by males. In my eyes, Traps are girls. And that's... not what I want when I'm looking for BL games... I like Trap games and all, and I love Trap heroines, but when I'm looking for BL specifically, for men love interests, I always remove the Trap heroine tag in VNDB from my search... Also, people that like Trap games don't usually look for them in BL games lists... Because most of them dislike BL anyway. And then there's the very small percentage of people who enjoy both, but oh well... I'm really really sorry if this sounds bad and all, but I'm not including Trap games in the list... Because they're NOT BL games just because there's two dicks on screen.

There is some kind of enjoyment in playing/watching something that is just poorly written. For instance I watched Isekai wa Smartphone to Tomo ni and found it to be quite enjoyable. In my head there was a battle between the main character, author and animators in who could put in the least amount of effort (they fought really hard). The sakura games has the same thing going in, it is just kind of fun to see how predictible and poorly written they are. Ofc they are only worth it at a large discount.

Exactly the answer I expected. No, I'm absolutely not entitled, he made himself responsible before the community as a whole and not me personally, even your "free" actions have their price and your good intentions can bring harm when your moral compass doesn't really work. Noone else will try to translate it when you do, many people become depressed from time to time because of the lack of closure etc etc. Negative connotations are obvious and when you can alleviate them by literally spending ten minutes of your precious time then you're obviously in the wrong. The fact that he's such a nice guy who maybe decided to work on the game for free only means that noone can demand any kind of result from him, not that he's free from any moral obligation of going public.

Congrats, man! Have a diploma for your achievement

Licensing Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeQEPmHrM9YKDk6FMZCm8fwOGLeiVrQsaBhnBQKxMj7aK4OWQ/viewform 3 VNs I asked to be licensed: 11gatsu no Arcadia - https://vndb.org/v16342 Kiss Bell - https://vndb.org/v10641 Koi Suru Kanojo no Bukiyou na Butai - https://vndb.org/v15393

I have done 3 routes of Clannad, half of Flowers, 100%ted VA-11 Hall-A. What to play next?

There's a lot to answer here, although I'll try my best to answer what I knew for now at least. 2. There's a lot of example at TL Wiki page, and the most prominent one would be Grisaia no Kajitsu and Little Busters. Also there's Eien no Aselia, in which they used the fan translated version of that. Sekai themselves had one example with School Days, because they work on School Days as fan translator before cooperate with JAST. If that's not counted here, then Steins Gate might be count because they started as fan translation project before the team decided to work with JAST to release that. 3. As for that, I assume that it was C&D. For the most recent example, there's Hanasaki which is got hit by that after some drama within the team themselves. Other than that, there's first Baldr Sky translation project and aforementioned Da Capo 3 project. 5. There's Koestl and Arunaru who currently work for Mangagamer, and Tulip Maria Goddess as well who already work for both of Sorcery Jokers and Rance Quest. Other than those three, there's Phlebas (Former Dakkodango member) who is the employee at Fruitbat Company as well. I guess that's all for what I could think at the moment, and hope it could be help. PS - For the translator that not get hired, there's Phar who is the translator for both of Symphonic Rain and YU-NO.

In general the encubed (novelnews) site has a huge amount of articles on what you're looking for. If you want to find C&D'd projects literally just look through the archives. I think one article mentions Kara no Shoujo / Cartagra; you can maybe consider that a C&D failure since afaik that got a fan tl version out (nowadays both have official releases too however!). Fan TLs being used to create official releases: Way too many examples, but some early ones you might consider of historical value are School Days and ef. ef is pretty interesting because iirc the general feel before the licensing attempt was that Minori was hostile toward any western efforts (you can also try to find the "acrimonious history" which seems to be scrubbed from this particular post). Note that the Sekai Project that handled School Days was pretty different from the company you know today. Notable fan translators that got hired... I think it's easier to list notable fan translators that didn't get hired honestly. Koestl (grisaia), bdh/yukino + rito (danganronpa FTL / fata morgana and more), Arunaru (some rance stuff iirc), Good_Haro fan tl'd hadaka shitsuji, VerdelishJP fan tl'd toradora portable, Makoto (Saya no Uta, Hanachirasu, etc)... while I would not quite agree with the statement that everyone good in fan translation got picked up by the companies, there's some truth to it. Two prominent translators that never did get hired as far as I know, though their tls might have gotten bought out, are Ixrec and TakaJun. Their translations are not very good, so this is understandable.

This one is also a bit interesting https://vndb.org/t8399#10 an Eiyuu*Senki patch. The VN is currently officially released by JAST. The interesting thing about it is that it combines the PC version with the PS3 version, which each have exclusive content making a complete version as well as adding scenes from Eiyuu*Senki Gold. Doing this makes a complete version, superior to any official version and I gues that can be difficult for official publishers. So in this case there is a patch which is able to be superior to the official by it not having to follow rules sett by the developers of the VN. Here are some links to fan translation patches on VNs based on things that had an anime https://vndb.org/r49171 a russian patch for To Love-Ru Trouble Darkness: True Princess and https://vndb.org/r27122 an english patch for Ore no Imouto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai. These types of VNs based on pre existing things seems to very rarely get any translations, the only official translation I could find for these types of VNs are New Game! -The Challenge Stage! with a chinese release and Gakusen Toshi Asterisk Festa Houka Kenran with an english release. Gues it is also worth mentioning https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4SSYkTQItWl6U6VU-6IgBA, someone on youtube who translate parts of VNs based on anime and upload fotage of the game with the translation. From what I can see the person has done parts of Nisekoi: Yomeiri!?, To Love-Ru Trouble Darkness: True Princess and Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Death or Kiss. Not really fan translation patches, but still a type of fan translation.

Saya no Uta's official translation was based on the FTL one and even done by the same guy Piece about this: http://novelnews.net/2009/07/17/jast-usa-is-working-with-fan-translators-for-nitro-titles/

Not really something that has happened yet, but it seems like Cherrykissgames, who are the english publishers for norn/miel are interested in getting fan translations that they can officially publish. This is based on their conversations on their discord. Gues that could work as an example of a company currently thinking of making fan translations official. Also while this is not on your list of things you asked of I think the fan patch for IMHHW is quite interesting. In this case it is the reintroduction of cut content due to the developers buthering a VN. There also is a full retranslation in the work due poor official translation. Kind of interesting how bad buisness practices can cause there to be fan translations being made after an official translation. Though I gues since this is a big VN you probably already knew it.

You might want to look through the older blogs on the main Fuwanovel site. I remember reading quite a lot of information there in the past and. Checking it now, there are interviews with notable fan-translators, and many of them went official later. I heard rumors of something like that happening with the first Muv-luv Alternative translation, but I don't know the details.

...i'm going to finish corrupted at the end. I'm waiting for the top 15 otomege.

Despite your claims, I have the feeling that Enzai may be one of the darkest translated BL title available. Or at least make for some stiff competition. Thought I'd mention it, since I didn't see it on your list. Also, I didn't play it. I imagine it's BL in some form, though.

1. delete all the sakura games. oh dear gods 2. undertale isn't a vn 3. Undertale or VA-11 HALL-A in my humble opinion.

Ok, why not. This is me so that you can put a face onto my nickname. I think you would've been better off just imagining Shion-chan though

I love a lot of the games on there but I'll say VA-11 HALL-A (absolutely amazing)

I had no idea this is coming, it looks <3 <3 <3 Im terrible at the Total War games but Ill still buy it :3 As for Paradox games, own all of them, have hundreds of hours on all of them, am burnt out on all of them xD maybe with the next Stellaris expansion

I'd say G-senjou no Maou. Love that one. It's a really cool, "battle of wits" mystery, with some great twists and turns.

I ended up playing Katawa Shoujo after a friend of mine talked about it to me one day. Spent about the next year hovering round those forums like a bad smell, while playing any free VNs I could find. I loved (and still love) the feelings that I develop towards characters while reading, be it because of their design (it normally is), voice, backstory, quirks and what-have-you. A good VN is one that I'm thinking about for what feels like forever after I read it. The main barrier for me - well, there's two - is that I don't like pirating shit. It scares me, to be honest, and while I'm hardly flush with money I like paying for things where I can. The second is the content. I am the vanilla-est, most easily bothered reader of these things that you'll come across. As such, I won't play most VNs, cos either I can't afford them, or I don't like what's in them. And that's fine, cos there's still plenty of highly-rated, very safe-for-lifework ones for me to read

Not sure if this is who I think it is Hi

Welcome to Fuwanovel, @SajkoWolfe. I think this is the first time I say welcome to you here, so hope you have fun in the forum once more. Feel free to ask any VNs recommendations if you interested.

Hi hi! The chat where we shared pains and joys has been dismantled, but we're using a Discord channel now. Catch you there, hopefully.

I only really cried when That was emotional, alright. A good part of the guilt goes to that a capella song with English lyrics. I've got Side Stories and Tomoyo After too, I need the whole pack.

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Same here, to be honest! Well, throw me a PM if you want to catch up!

Hi! Not sure if it's appropriate thing to say since you aren't new, but welcome to Fuwa!

Ofcourse I remember you babe <3 although I have changed a lot as a person since we last talked so you might not recognise me <3

Hey, long time no see! Welcome back! In before you don't remember me.

Hello friend! I love you too

Hello there! I guess it's a good moment to come back to VNs, there's a lot to choose from nowadays (that is, for non-Japanese-speaking plebians like myself, who don't have pretty much unlimited library of JP releases available to them). Hope you'll have fun posting again!

heyo and welcome! again!

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This was the best comment I've seen mentioned here so far as one it shows I'm not really in the minority for skipping most Haha. But more importantly covers another point that I forgot to mention in the OG post, which is a big reason why I skipped Bad ends when I first started reading VN's and still do it to this day. As especially a lot last year, where most of the VN's I was reading where pretty heavy stuff even in the good ends (Looking at you Euphoria... though that true ending did pay it off pretty well) so it made me less inclined to read the bad ends especially like mentioned above if you've grown attached to these characters. Characters like our Goddess haha.

@Kurisu-Chan @Zidan209 Enjoy!

My bad, didn't know MGitP was bad >.< But I'm in for Nameless! Objection! Remember Zaka's top 0 list? My thougths exactly. Seriously now, just because something is in VNDB, it doesn't mean it's a VN. Anyone can add anything there, you know...? BlazBlue, Persona 4 Arena and fucking Persona 4 Dancing All Night are there, and even some gatchas, like seriously, who pick those games for the VN parts???? And it's always a war on VNDB about the inclusion of those games... It'll just start an unnecessary war, leave it out. If you want a hybrid of sorts, I suggest Danganronpa V3.

Real pleased to see so many people putting Michiru at the very bottom

I'll see what I can do! If there is going to be a demo, it would probably only encompass the first day. Enough to introduce you to all four heroines!

Okay, I have updated my git, working here, Srry for make you wait, I'm late, but it's done ...

I have wroted a algorithm to decrypt, I remember of your request... I will do some tests, if everything works i will publish. I just need test the regeneration of the .dbs

I'm a male who likes to play Otomege. Am i an abomination or not?