Mr Poltroon

@Funyarinpa One of the central pillars around the formation of these eroge communities is the content. People all come here because they, for whatever reason, consume such content and want to discuss it or see others discuss it. A large percentage of eroge has extreme content of the kind you are attempting to denounce and condemn. The content itself, VNs and Eroge, covers many many areas, but the more extreme areas will naturally drive out those that cannot ignore them or enjoy them in the same way. What remains is a community composed of people who tolerate or appreciate such content, or recognise that others do, accepting it. If, one day, someone arrives and starts explaining how bad this all is, they are likely to get ignored or told they are wrong themselves. It would upturn the very base of the community that currently exists. If a ban on fictional content that were considered morally bankrupt were suddenly passed, 80% of the community would just leave and go somewhere else (Incidentally, I imagine people such as I and Plk_Lesiak would remain--though I cannot really speak for him--as long as some people remained). Though I entirely understand what you are attempting to do here, I think it should come as no surprise that your position is not one shared by most people present here, and the amount of people that would change their views because of somebody else's story on the internet it somewhat low. The internet is a very tall barrier, and sometimes people can only get emotionally engaged/involved to things that occur near them/to them, or things that are similar to other events that have taken place near them. If I were part of a country that regularly sacrificed a person for fun (gladiators-ish affair?), would everyone suddenly agree with me if I told them it was wrong to murder people? My answer would probably be no, and that is what I see on this thread as well. ---- Now, since you've gone to the trouble of exposing a lot of your personal views, I'll go ahead and do the same. Not something I usually do, because I believe it creates a lot of conflict that really isn't worth it. I find that I am an extremely tolerant person, probably lack empathy on many aspects, and have an extreme belief that the end justifies the means. This is why none of this kind of extreme content bothers me. I cannot even begin to imagine how it would hurt a person. Most of the talk about porn and sex are foreign to me. I have never masturbated and I am fairly certain at this point in my life that I will never engage in sexual activities (but I can't predict life). It is beyond my means to even begin to transfer all this fictional content into actual reality. Therefore, I cannot empathise. I don't see how discussion of this content hurts others, even through your own story. Your own story brings up two aspects, morality a feelings, as the main cause for the hurt: Now, when you say that something is morally wrong, I will ask "Why is that?". "Hurting people is bad." "Why?" "It causes pain and suffering." "Why is that bad?" "..." -- There are many responses, but ultimately I believe that human life is only seen as precious because we are humans. If I care about other human beings, I care on the level that I can empathise with them. "I wouldn't want that to happen to me." or "I like this person, so I don't want things that'd make them feel bad to happen to them. It'd make me feel bad too." I like seeing other people happy or enjoying themselves. It is an enjoyable thing for me. But ultimately, this is just a question of feelings. But who or what controls feelings? Are my feelings right? But what if everyone around me has different ones? A lack of empathy. Is that a flaw? Is that something the person can fix? Is that the person's fault to begin with, or were they born this way? Should they be forced to fix it? "I do not believe it is my responsibility to watch what I say on this space on internet. If others get hurt by it, that is their own fault for continuously reading/participating. Anyone who has come here has done so willingly, and, knowing what sorts of things are allowed here, has chosen to read on." Is this lack of empathy? Or is it something else? I don't know.

Announcing titles closer to release is what makes sense. There's very few that are worth being enthused about years in advance.

Ahem. I should, at the very least, let you know that my name is Tiago. Tiago F Varela. (And I have not said this in years!) That said, know that I feel the exact same way. The first few moments are very memorable, I suppose. Please, be happy with yourself. On the topic of this topic, I really recommend Cute Demon Crashers to heal your soul. Happy, consensual experiences are my domain.

RIP

Thank you! That guide should never have been accepted to begin with for other reasons... but as it is now... I'll probably leave it in the unformatted walkthroughs forum along with a warning that at least the guide to Chunhua's route is not working as intended.

If you could share what needs to be fixed, I can go fix it.

So, I played a route in Highschool Romance and... I really really like it! I had an inkling that any trap protagonists that aren't in a nukige will, by necessity, fit into my tastes, but I really like Shoji! He basically fits this Once he gets used to the idea, after the first week or so, he becomes able to casually interact with everybody. And, unlike normal protagonists, he isn't constantly thinking about people's bodies or sex. Wonderful! In one of the common route paths a female friend fell asleep on his shoulder and he ended up going to sleep too. Do you know how much I love having a protagonist that doesn't go "I-I can't sleep." "I didn't sleep that night because my friend from school was sleeping over." Urgh, horrible. (He's also smooth as h*ck once he knows somebody is interested in him but that's an aside)

It exactly.

Nukige with Romance - For this, I will be considering romantic routes to count, even if there's other content. I can also add a couple of RPGMaker games with what is probably romance: Also, here's two I forgot to add to the previous list: The Confines of the Crown Sisterly Bliss - Yuri game with both dark and happy routes for each side of the relationship.

I will literally spew forth a list of Visual Novels with a romantic element. I will assume the shorter ones that are more like a nukige are not within your sphere of interest. Most of these will not be to your tastes due to sheer statistic probability. Beware. VNs: VN/Game mix: If you want me to list the more romantic nukige (that means, sex primarily for love, and nothing really going into extremes), just ask. The comedy was hilarious (to me) and the girls are pretty unique. I just don't get the thing that's going on in the background... It's so weird.

--nevermind--

Happy Birthday, @Infernoplex! And, Happy Birthday to you too, @flamepaladin! The text sounds so excited! Look at all the exclamation marks! Woah!

In English this (+ 'then') is an expression that can be used when someone says or does something that screws you over.

I agree. They should disregard all their expenses and believe that somehow the VN will sell enough to not bankrupt them.

My list is unreadable because of all those 'have not played', but I included in the tiers all of those I've tried, even if I didn't finish them. My ranks go as follows: S - Would gladly replay anytime every time or is just very very memorable. A - Good games I greatly enjoyed. Can replay if in the right mood. B - Games I enjoyed throughout. Would likely not replay. C - Games I am conflicted about. Would not or cannot replay. D - Was not enjoying too much and likely dropped them.