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G-Senjou no Maou. No matter what people may say about it, it's an unforgettable experience, and no VN of the same genre could be on par with this

Translated: Saya no Uta - It's incredible how many things this novel gets right even with it's short length. The atmosphere is incredible, the characters will make you happy, then rage, then afraid, then cry then everything at once. Untranslated: Shingakkou - Best piece of horror I read, it's creepy without relying too much on gore, and it still have an incredibly beautiful message in the end (unlike the above one), SoL parts are also endearing, characters are very well written, especially the main character.

Oh man, oh jeez. Quite the task to put on someone. But I'd say probably Katawa Shoujo or Everlasting Summer, not because they are the greatest visual novels out there, but because they are different.

One? Technically speaking, Muv-Luv Alternative, but you would also need to read the two prequels, so it would not qualify as one. So I'd go with Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo. It has its issues, but it touched my soul in a way I would not have believed possible.

I'd go for FSN for pretty obvious reasons. The reasons: It's timeless classics. It's pretty good and really popular. As opposed to the other highly rated VNs, it doesn't require any previous experience and doesn't have any obvious drawbacks. And the main reason: it's probably one of the best examples of what the VN genre/medium can do with what it has.

Probably Steins;Gate. If you want an absolutely gripping plot (with quite a lot of sci fi). Otherwise, if you don't know what you want, The Fruit of Grisaia (has everything from awesome dialogue, endearing characters, LOL comedy, some nice fanservice, and some serious tearjerker scenes).

Like you could harm us, filthy mortal.

PUNY EARTHLING HERE STEALING JOKE FROM HERE FELLOW EARTHLING IS NOT COOL. WE HERE COEXIST HERE ON THIS PLANET SO WHY WOULD YOU DO SUCH A THING HERE

I read a blog post by Darbury on this topic quite a while ago; I think you might find both it and the discussion in the comments interesting. There are also a couple other posts where he attempts to define what a visual novel is. Personally, I don't fuss too much over whether or not I consider something with gameplay elements a visual novel. I hold some heretical opinions. I consider the Ace Attorney series to be visual novels. I consider the traditional formula of having heroine routes (or heroes) in nigh every VN to be unimaginative and banal, and embrace new ideas and formats within the genre. With that in mind, I welcome VNs with gameplay elements, or VN hybrids as one might call them, so long as the time spent playing doesn't outweigh the time spent, er, novel-ing. The Danganronpa and Kara no Shoujo series are good, but certainly not perfect, examples in my humble opinion.

So I can spend time I could use to read VNs to complain about not having enough time to play VNs.

It does, I've banned like 10 people the past few days for alt-spaming and trolling. The coliseum of chatter, however, was always pretty much a place for shitposting. Way back we had threads about cereal or what someone are for dinner or some dumb shit. Not much to do about it.

primarily to shill the house in fata morgana to people, at this point guys play the house in fata morgana it's the best vn ever made peace bye

I did. I felt it contributed a fair bit to my enjoyment of the story by selecting the generals and strategists. Gameplay in a story doesn't always have to be about the gameplay itself. I mean, even the OP presented Koihime as an example of gameplay he liked.

I LOVE

Natsuyume Nagisa. Nijima Yuu's magnum opus in my opinion. The way he throws hints about the big mystery surrounding the whole game, the twist as cruel as gratifying, and the suffering; but above all, the final message of the game, that there's hope.

KINIRO LOVERICHE YOU need some delicious SEISHUN in your life with a beautiful true route that makes you shikushiku

I'll add a few question types..... Favorite 'Violent" girl: Kyou (CLANNAD). Bonus points for throwing dictionaries with remarkable skill, and having a demonic death glare.... Favorite Airhead: Michiru (Grisaia) Favorite 'Super Genius': Amane (IMHHW). Actually, she's a somewhat eccentric, airheaded super genius ..... with big breasts xD Favorite Male sidekick: Sunohara (CLANNAD). Though he does kinda tick me off at times too... Best Dialogue: Makina (Grisaia), EASILY. Though Sachi (Grisaia) comes somewhat close.... Favorite 'unlucky idiot': Honestly, I can't pick between Sunohara (CLANNAD), and Michiru (Grisaia). They both have chronic bad luck.... Most Lewd Heroine: Can't pick between Sachi (Grisaia), Amane (Grisaia), and Mihiro (Wagamana High Spec)

This hurts too much... My hipster list comes in a minute...

the best answer

Favorite vn: Phoenix Wright 3 (hybrid) : G-senjou no maou (true) Favorite route: Route B (I/O) or Haru (G-senjou no Maou) Favorite loli: Irisu Makina (Grisaia - Legal Loli) ; Suzuki Miu (Chrono Clock - True Loli) Favorite kyonyuu: I don't like giant breasts. My maximum is something like Matou Sakura's (Fate Stay Night). Favorite shota: Riki (Little Busters) No it's a joke...It's Not my cup of tea. Favorite best girl/Favorite waifu: Itsurugi Chie ( Kira☆Kira ) Favorite art style: Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate Favorite genre of vn: Crime/Police Favorite "dere" type: Classic Tsundere Favorite yuri/BL game: / Favorite non- canon pairing: Favorite side character: Uraha (Air) Favorite otome game: Amnesia Memories or Enigma: Favorite best boy: Morita Kenichi (Sharin no Kuni) Favorite translation: Gahkthun Favorite OELVN: VA-11 Hall-A: Cyberpunk Bartender Action Favorite trap: / Favorite jrpg: Final Fantasy VI Onee-san or imouto? Imouto, I suppose... Favorite Kemonomimi animal type? Cat maybe

Favorite vn: Umineko Favorite route: Heaven's Feel, I guess? Favorite loli: -> Favorite kyonyuu: - Favorite shota: - Favorite best girl: Rin Tohsaka Favorite art style: Fata Morgana Favorite genre of vn: pseudophilosophical stuff Favorite "dere" type: tsundere Favorite yuri game: Pygmalion, but it's the only one I actually finished so far. Seabed will most likely beat it. Favorite non- canon pairing: idk. Favorite side character: Yuuko Favorite otome game: no experience except for a pretty trashy one. Favorite best boy: - Favorite translation: Grisaia, I guess. Favorite OELVN: DDLC, but it's the only one I actually liked. My experience is pretty limited though. Favorite trap: Riki from LB. Favorite jrpg: don't play them. Favorite waifu: don't get them. Onee-san or imouto: neither. Choosing from the lesser evils, onee-san. Favorite Kemonomimi animal type: human. What?..

Really enjoyed your review it sounds like it is something I should definitely avoid. Whenever someone just causally mentions that they are part of a secret society like its nothing you know the story is in for a bad time. Also I'm going to echo the absurdity of creating a fully functional human body out of nothing but stuff you can buy online. Like how do you even begin to obtain the materials needed in order to create bone or the intestinal tract? It literally would have worked better if she had just magic to make it.

Welcome to this rambling house of torment, please take your shoes off and make yourself comfortable.

That's his name tho, isn't it

For me, it's all about conditions. Even with the best anime I've ever watched, I usually won't retain information about them for very long. When I read or watch anything, I can only retain enough information to argue over it for a year. It takes somewhere between 8 to 10 years for me to forget something entirely. And see, that's the problem I had with re-reading Little Busters. Because the story is still so fresh in my memory from the 2013 anime adaption, I'm having some difficulty re-reading the whole thing from the beginning to get to the EX routes. I did want to learn the differences between the version I read way back and what I'm reading now, but I think I'll just take a pass.

Hi, welcome! (/・ω・)/

Hope you have a great time around here!

Sorry , i'm bad in english

Hello there, Earthling! I have to say that for an inhabitant of this planet your punctuation still feels a bit alien, you should be a bit more mindful about that in future posts. ;p Anyways, I hope you'll have fun around here.

Welcome!

Here

Welcome here, I hope I see you a lot here. It was nice to meet you here. And if you here want to discuss VNs I'm always here to tell you about here!

Nice to meet you too here,Fuwa here is a nice place to discuss VNs but not many good friend here tbh Hope you well too here

Welcome here! Looking forward to seeing your posts around here. Feel free to let me know if you need help navigating the forums here.

Well, I would usually avoid calling RPGs visual novels, as the gameplay/story ratio is usually heavily skewed in the direction of gameplay. That's why I've stopped playing RPGs, I've realized that I've played things like DA Inquisition or Star Wars: The Old Republic mostly for the story, while burning dozens of hours on mindless grind I didn't really care about. For me, VN is every medium where the text-based story content reigns supreme while any gameplay it offers is supplementary to that. In this way it's very hard for me to accept this kind of purist definitions that Palas creates, where VN is created only by stripping the game from any visible, number-based gameplay mechanics. What do I care that my story route in Long Live the Queen is some ways guided by the stats? The core content is still that of a visual novel, in a very literal understanding of the term. Same goes for most VN-hybrid games and dating sims - in most of them, the story content is the central part of the experience. Closer to the original topic, I think that gameplay can both make a VN better and break it. If gameplay elements are well-connected with the story and support its main themes, I can appreciate them even if they're mediocre by themselves - they simply work as that additional flavour that adds to the immersion. But I also hate then the gameplay lacks proper difficulty settings or skip option, so it could stall experiencing the story. For me, it's all about how it's implemented and how much time it takes - I really didn't switch from playing sandbox games to reading VNs just to play with mindless minigames for hours on end, but anything less extreme and somewhat approachable is ok with me, as long as it fits the story.

We should round them up and exterminate them.

Hello Ladies & Gentlemen! So, yesterday I've published a review of a very disappointing VN - I'm always a bit wary about giving time and publicity to bad games, when you can give the spotlight to good ones that desperately need it, but I think there's some value in dissecting failed projects and talking about why they couldn't deliver, often despite the author's honest attempts. Obviously, bad games that are just lazy aren't that interesting, but bad games that tried hard and failed are often fascinating to me. Also, it seems that my review discouraged at least two people from buying the title in question, so it's already worth it. Either way, I hope you'll have fun reading it! In other news, as my activities on the blog focuses mostly around Steam, I thought it would be a logical extension to create a Curator Page connected to it. I don't expect anything out of it, but it's something I can expand while writing the blog in a somewhat seamless way, so I have few reasons not to do it. Obviously, if anyone wants to follow my recommendations there (or join the group linked to it), I will be very thankful. Have a great week everyone!

I think you should edit "when they cry" section a bit. First, I would recommend to list all VNs that belong to these series. Reasoning: if someone actually uses your list they will most likely ether have read these series or be a noobie. New people would like to know such things. Furthermore, if you were a new reader would you pick something that would have been listed as 150+ hours long? Oh, one more thing. If I were you I would split it into Higurashi and Umineko and list approximate length of each story

confession : i think i missed this place u.u

I do post a lot of good-quality things sometimes.

I finished QC very recently so hopefully it isn't much longer for the full patch to come out.

Would you rather have a forum with active moderators, or a forum with consistent quality content like this very thread here?

Does this forum still have mods?

God damn weebs and their cancerous posts I tell you.

To procrastinate.

Incidentally, length is spelled length.

When I meant the writing I meant the original story writing, not the translation writing lol.

Having grown in a musical environment , I always make a huge deal of the soundtracks of everything that I play or watch. Sometimes its almost a deal-braker for me, so I'm not sure if this is a good or bad thing lol. Anyway, I've played only 6 VNs so far, but here are some memorable moments for me. I really love jazz(watched Sakamichi no Apollon just for the sake of it), finding a good piece in a VN was a pleasant surprise, the piano bits at the end are cool, the sax melody is chilling and the bass solo part is awesome. Also, Katawa Shoujo was my entry to this genre, so it holds a dear place in my hearth even though I've played it years ago. Classical is the only genre that i love more than jazz. This one is based on a piece known as Revolurionary Etude by Chopin (which is meant to butcher your left hand every time you try to play it). Its by far my favorite etude and I was blown away when I recognized the melody that started at 1:03. What a pleasant surprise. There are many tracks from this VN that I like alot (even the ones that weren't based on classical music) but i will just leave this one here. This also was the VN that got me back into these kind of games. Ah the Kasabuta/Scab. I still can't figure out why I like this music so much, and this is a rare ocurrence. I did not like Grisaia very much (which made me play only one route of the first game, i will eventually come back to it tho), even so, this song in conjunction to "that" part of the story is an almost perfect match. It's a little unsettling, while being a bit chill at the same time(???). Some ppl said that they got bored of it pretty quickly. As for myself, I used to halt the reading for a few seconds just to hear this melody one more time. That subtle slapping bass that tells that the song is about to start gets me every time. Also thanks for whoever revived this discussion, I could easily decide to play a VN that the description didn't appeal me, after hearing a good bgm. Just added Fata Morgana to my eventual reads. Could talk about music all day.