XionsProphecy Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Right now I am playing through Zero Time Dilemma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzu Fanatic Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 3 hours ago, bogdankl said: I am starting to think that maybe... just maybe... H scenes can seriously ruin a VN Reveal hidden contents Seriously, after discovering one of the darkest and saddest backstories of a character in anything I ever read/saw/played we get sempai please make sweet lavulavu with me cuz I desire men... because I was raped over and over... It seriously fucked up <no pun intended> with one of the most emotionally engaging moments in my vn history I like H scenes in a vn, I'll admit I'm probably a weirdo and a perv, but I don\t want them in the middle of an emotional scene, Whenever I think of a good way to implement H scenes in a non-nukige vn I actually think of Amane's route in the first grisaia novel, You do the H scenes and you do the silly stuff and then you do the seriously heavy and messed up shit that leaves you emotionally scared and awake at night edit Reveal hidden contents BTW what kind of a fucking sherloc could tell that sakura and rin were sisters just by the color of ribbons from an old photo, or am I just that dam thick that these things just flew by me and I never noticed some other signs This is one of those things I stand defiantly against the masses - people had the same gripe about Michuru's route near the end of GnK1. Sexuality IS a emotional experience, and some times it exists for comfort, and as a salve - not just pleasure and "fun". For example - and it might be tmi for some, but it adds weight to my stance - my exs father had passed away, and after the funeral we celebrated his life with a small party. Once everyone had left, she asked me to stay the night. Not because she was tastelessly hot and ready - but because she wanted comfort that words could not express. That aside, replying to your post prior to that: Shame on you for looking up spoilers Still, hope you end up enjoying HF. It's by far my favorite arc. I personally feel it builds up to a satisfying, emotional conclusion. (Sakura is not my favorite girl (though I also don't hate her like some do), but her story is by far the best). I wouldn't worry too much about Fate Hollow being too dark - it does have its moments, but it has a lot of laughs mixed in too. Jun Inoue, Kawasumi, bogdankl and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosRaven Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 10 hours ago, Suzu Fanatic said: This is one of those things I stand defiantly against the masses - people had the same gripe about Michuru's route near the end of GnK1. Sexuality IS a emotional experience, and some times it exists for comfort, and as a salve - not just pleasure and "fun". For example - and it might be tmi for some, but it adds weight to my stance - my exs father had passed away, and after the funeral we celebrated his life with a small party. Once everyone had left, she asked me to stay the night. Not because she was tastelessly hot and ready - but because she wanted comfort that words could not express. I know what you mean, but things change if rape is involved, especially in strong cases of abuse. A traumatized victim might not consider that kind of initimacy as comforting anymore, but as pure horror instead. That doesn't mean it's not possible, but the writer has to consider the situation and the feelings of the victim very good when he writes the scene. A cheap H-scene that was just thrown in for 'fun' can appear extremely tasteless and off-putting. Suzu Fanatic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzu Fanatic Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 @ChaosRavenShould use a spoiler tag on that, just in case~ That's presuming it was thrown in for "fun". Only Nasu's Sakura - and a real victim - can know that for certain (and even then, I'd imagine the topic depends on each individual - some are likely to react differently than others.) Some may think of the encounter as a chance to wipe away the bad memory with a good one (imprinting), as opposed to viewing the act as a terrible reminder. Do we treat such people differently and carefully? So that they feel singled out? Or do we treat them like we would have normally? It's a really tough call with trauma - some really do need to be handled with care - but some also can't stand the idea of being treated/looked at differently ("with kids gloves" as some would say). Huh, this discussion actually reminds me of EF - have you read it? But, I get where you are coming from though. However, Sakura wanted to be with the one she trusts and loves - it's not like she just walked up to a random stranger and asked for sex - or that she was taken advantage of by Shirou. it's ultimately a proactive decision involving a trustworthy partner. A final note I thought to add - Sakura feels unworthy of Shirou in this particular situation, she feels tainted and ashamed. I feel that him being with her took some of that burden off her heart and mind - that the man she loves was still attracted to her, and willing to be with her despite what she thinks of herself - and what she's been through. it likely wipes away at least some of her insecurity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Dammit, was 15 minutes into Cyber Slayer b4 finding out there was an 'all ages' remake with better art and actual voice acting, gotta fetch that I'll uh, get started on Neko Para vol. 2 in the meantime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosRaven Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 4 hours ago, Suzu Fanatic said: Hide contents Huh, this discussion actually reminds me of EF - have you read it? Yes, that was the first title I was thinking about in this context. Yuuko's route made me feel horrible to just think about anything sexual about her. It's a very extreme case though. Suzu Fanatic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vokoca Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Continuing my adventures through Hayarigami. The second case was a pleasant surprise - it was way more complex than the first one, and I actually got the culprit wrong at first, which was fun. Even after finishing the case, I still have no idea how to explain quite a lot of things that happened - there was a point near the beginning where you want to take a scientific approach or an occult one, and I suppose my denial of occult just isn't going to cut it. Other than that I'm continuing Mahoyo. It's still amazing, just couldn't recommend it to anyone who dislikes SoL - the great majority of the VN is just that, and the chuuni parts are actually really rare. still, the character interactions are great, so I can't complain. I'm around 80% through that VN, lets see where that goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkZedge Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Currently playing Zero Escape, Evolve (since it went F2P), I really have to finish RootDouble's before route I'm having a hard time with it's slower pace after playing the after route Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDice Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 7 hours ago, Eclipsed said: I'll uh, get started on Neko Para vol. 2 in the meantime It's not all that long, so you should manage to finish the first half in three months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I'm going to start Saya no Uta today. Kenshin_sama and Kawasumi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 6 hours ago, TexasDice said: It's not all that long, so you should manage to finish the first half in three months. I got to the catfight between coconut and azuki, but now it's time to go right back to cyber slayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dergonu Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Went back to Seisai no Resonance after finding out the Koiken Otome patch won't come out quite yet. I'm loving this game. Almost done with the Nagi route now, which has been amazing. Nagi x Kanae is pretty much my favorite yuri pairing of all time. Hopefully the other routes are equally good, though I have a feeling they might not be. Even if they aren't though, the game has pretty much been worth it just for Nagi. One thing that is a bit strange about this game is the gameplay, which doesn't feel that necessary at all to me, but hey, it's fun every now and then I guess. This Nagi CG is so pretty (No major spoilers btw) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 10 minutes ago, Dergonu said: Went back to Seisai no Resonance after finding out the Koiken Otome patch won't come out quite yet. One thing that is a bit strange about this game is the gameplay, which doesn't feel that necessary at all to me, but hey, it's fun every now and then I guess. I tried Tentacle Lord from the same company. The gameplay quickly bored me and I pretty much lost interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dergonu Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 1 minute ago, sanahtlig said: I tried Tentacle Lord from the same company. The gameplay quickly bored me and I pretty much lost interest. It feels pretty out of place to be honest. It's not bad or anything, but it's just kind of randomly there. It's quite easy and the fights are quite uncommon, so you can pretty much ignore it in this game. (Though if you come for the gameplay, that would be a bit of a negative point in itself.) Guess they like putting gameplay in their games even though there isn't much of a need for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReaper Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 ... Jiangshi X Toshi trial. regardless of how dissappointing some upcoming titles might get, this years summer is already saved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jun Inoue Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Life With A Slave -Teaching Feeling-. It's very sweet, but I must admit is a bit annoying/boring that you don't even know how to advance. Or rather, that you don't even know when it'll happen. It's repeated filler after filler, and then 1 short scene that's very nice. Kinda makes me wonder if it is worth to keep playing. Also playing Club Life. Kinda disappointment that they force you to start playing nice on the tennis club route. You can be a resentful ass to the girl, who very much deserves your hate as far as I can infer from the story and context. But around the 3rd / 4th choice, the game suddenly forces you to choose between 2 dialogues that are very mellow and friendly, which is super weird and off. A lost opportunity to have an interesting route where you genuinely hate the heroine until things start to change, instead of this radical 180º. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorathiel Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 18 hours ago, Eclipsed said: Dammit, was 15 minutes into Cyber Slayer b4 finding out there was an 'all ages' remake with better art and actual voice acting, gotta fetch that It is not. Old art >>> new shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 46 minutes ago, Vorathiel said: It is not. Old art >>> new shit. It is. New art >>> old shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleshogun Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Obviously in regard of Kikokugai there some people who prefer old version and some people who prefer remake version. As for mine, I prefer remake version, if for seiyuu only (I mean it's like there's some all star cast there). By the way, since the remake was had explicit content censored (For CG only), I think if JAST want to release Kikokugai in Steam, the remake was great choice here. Although it's depend on Nitroplus though. PS - The remake was already available for more than a year iirc, and I'd find the translation project (More like 'inserting translation to remake' project though) in this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Cyber Slayer's pretty entertaining. It's a standard "avenge my loved one" type of deal set in a dark and gloomy futuristic cybernetic world full of mechanically augmented cyborgs and sexbots dubbed "gynoids" where the protagonist Taolou goes on a one-man-army mission to 1v1 all five of the big baddies of a criminal organization that wronged him, all while being accompanied by a cute lil' robot gal that's obviously deeply connected with the plot. I'm about two baddies in; so far the action scenes are lackluster since he just steamrolls them but I'll bet the late game cronies will be more interesting. RE: classic vs. remake Remake has modernized aka moeified artwork, an aesthetic that diehard traditionalists like Vorathiel will obviously despise in their neverending pursuit for elitist qualityisms. I on the otherhand obviously glorify it. And there's voices. Everybody likes their visual novels being voiced,,, right????? Fred the Barber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canicheslayer Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Over the last few days, I finished... ...Chain: the Lost Footprints : I'm a fan of detective/murder stories. Alas, it was so....disappointing (all the trouble I had to resolve serious sound problems was...a waste of my precious time). Indeed, the characters are too bland, the story is botched (too bad because some elements, some passages are great) and the H-scenes are hilariously bad (again, it's a pity because the idea of animated scenes was cool). 6,5/10 ...VA-11 HALL-A : My second finished OELVN is a precious gem. This bartender experience was so endearing, so smart (I loved the alternation between very funny scenes and serious topics)...so addictive (but the fact I'm a sucker for dystopian settings and/or cyberpunk stories really helped). I think this surprising VN will enter in my TOP 20 !!! Seriously, buy it, steal it, play it, finish it ! NOW ! Edit : And maybe Dorothy will join my TOP 20 Characters 9/10 Spoiler Edited April 4, 2017 by Canicheslayer Fred the Barber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havoc Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Finsihed maijkoi A-1, had a lot of fun reading it. Still kind of sad we dont get a full sisters sandwich scene, could have been fun to watch. But more importantly why waste a cg on a 2 line scene? Will be putting Grisaia on hold until the 18+ version comes out and then play that one. So for now i will be continuing my playthrough of seinakura while praying that this one does not have the crappy ending the first game had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaritan Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I just finished Homeless Joshi Gakusei and I have mixed feelings. On one hand, the art is nice, the atmosphere is depressing (as it should be in an utsuge), and the presentation was really interesting. It felt less like reading a book and more like reading a poem, if that makes any sense. On the other, it was a bit too extreme and over the top at times for me to take it seriously, and it was lacking in "meat" Spoiler No pun intended. Apart from entertaining me for an hour, it didn't feel like I got a whole lot out of it. I also felt like the rape scenes were too frequent. I don't inherently have a problem with them, but for there to be that many in that short amount of time, I really felt that it broke the flow more than a little. In spite of all of that, it was depressing and I was never bored. If you like utsuge and have an hour to spend, it might be worth it, but apart from that, there are better things that you could be reading. Either tonight or tomorrow I'm starting Ayakashibito, which I'm quite looking forward to. I'm also working through Fata Morgana's fandisc in Japanese. It's was initially quite difficult, but the first game gives context and I've gotten more accustomed to the sentence structure, so I'm managing. I'm desperate enough for more Fata that it's more than worth the effort, which is nice since normally I have trouble motivating myself to get through Japanese VNs . Vorathiel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kooolm Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Currently playing Koichoco. Aomi is the best girl with the worst route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Finished Cyber Slayer It's a great short VN Battle scenes were aight, the first two baddies were typical fodder, but it gets a bit more thrilling and high-stakes for the last of them, naturally. I really enjoyed the moral implications of what really makes someone "human" in this world full of cybernetic enhancements and how it was applied to Taolou and his beloved Riuli. The best parts of the VN for me as a character-centric pleb were the downtime in between fights. That's when you really get to feel for Taolou as he realizes his time is limited and his body starts to fail from all of the fighting, but he continues pushing himself regardless in a typical "I can only die once I fulfill my goal" fashion, only keeping himself sane and finding solace in watching his cute lil' gynoid develop. 8/10, read it! akaritan, Kawasumi and Chronopolis 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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