VirginSmasher Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Zenophilious said: It begins again. It definitely looks better, but I'm still not trusting them after what happened the first time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorathiel Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Anybody heard of them? Quote Publisher / Marketing: JAPAN CONTENT, INC. Localize / System Development: Next Ninja, Ltd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginSmasher Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, Vorathiel said: Anybody heard of them? They already have 2 failed Kickstarters if I'm correct including the Beastmaster one. They don't have a great track record when it comes to this sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosebleed Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 So... they just copy pasted the previous KS in a prefundia page and made some more rewards? Genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenophilious Posted April 16, 2016 Author Share Posted April 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Nosebleed said: So... they just copy pasted the previous KS in a prefundia page and made some more rewards? Genius. It almost like they have no idea why we hated what they did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginSmasher Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Like I said, it looks better...but it isn't better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzu Fanatic Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Wonder if Inre even knows about it? I've seen a few "projects" start up that were clearly shady. NM, just looked at the rewards, I'd assume it's legit if it's offering that stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginSmasher Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Suzu Fanatic said: Wonder if Inre even knows about it? I've seen a few "projects" start up that were clearly shady. Somebody should contact them and ask about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikiSanic Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 At the bottom they have links to their website and facebook page. What the hell does this company even do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosRaven Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 The key question is how much money they want to collect for their Kickstarter this time, and I couldn't find the answer for that yet. If they want more than 150.000 $ again, they'll better be prepared for disappointment. It will already be pretty hard if they just want more than 100.000 $. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReaper Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 even assumed 100k are pretty hefty for a ported mobile version. *ero-reaper squirms under their pointless attempt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Fred the Barber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the Barber Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Welp, we're done here, folks. Looks like anybody who wants to read Chusingura (and, you know, actually enjoy the experience) is just going to have to learn Japanese. Edit (because I saw something that needed a response): 1 hour ago, ChaosRaven said: The key question is how much money they want to collect for their Kickstarter this time, and I couldn't find the answer for that yet. If they want more than 150.000 $ again, they'll better be prepared for disappointment. It will already be pretty hard if they just want more than 100.000 $. No, that's not the key question. The massive amount of Engrish on their new Prefundia page makes it clear nobody involved in those assets actually knows English. Not acceptable. I'm out. sanahtlig and Kawasumi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawasumi Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, Fred the Barber said: Welp, we're done here, folks. Looks like anybody who wants to read Chusingura (and, you know, actually enjoy the experience) is just going to have to learn Japanese. Edit (because I saw something that needed a response): No, that's not the key question. The massive amount of Engrish on their new Prefundia page makes it clear nobody involved in those assets actually knows English. Not acceptable. I'm out. you know what it issssss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decay Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 3 hours ago, VirginSmasher said: They already have 2 failed Kickstarters if I'm correct including the Beastmaster one. They don't have a great track record when it comes to this sort of thing. I'm guessing he was referring to Next Ninja, who is a new name in this whole thing. I never heard of them before. Maybe they're these guys? http://nextninja.net/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginSmasher Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 43 minutes ago, Kawasumi said: you know what it issssss As expected of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikiSanic Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 26 minutes ago, Decay said: I'm guessing he was referring to Next Ninja, who is a new name in this whole thing. I never heard of them before. Maybe they're these guys? http://nextninja.net/ According to these tweets and this page, Next Ninja is the Japanese publisher of a mobile version of ChuSinGura46+1. In the prefundia they state, "We want to make an English version of the currently released Japanese Mobage version." So it doesn't look like they're using the PC or PS Vita version—instead they'll be using a PC port of the mobile version? If so, this entire campaign is absolutely absurd... sanahtlig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleshogun Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Good luck to trying again I suppose. Although we still didn't know how much they will demand here though. As for mobile game port, I don't know what to comment other than I hope the H-Scenes in Chusingura was not important to plot I guess, because if I remember mobile also didn't allow porn for the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenophilious Posted April 16, 2016 Author Share Posted April 16, 2016 16 minutes ago, RikiSanic said: So it doesn't look like they're using the PC or PS Vita version—instead they'll be using a PC port of the mobile version? If so, this entire campaign is absolutely absurd... HOW STUPID ARE THESE PEOPLE?! VirginSmasher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginSmasher Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 21 minutes ago, RikiSanic said: According to these tweets and this page, Next Ninja is the Japanese publisher of a mobile version of ChuSinGura46+1. In the prefundia they state, "We want to make an English version of the currently released Japanese Mobage version." So it doesn't look like they're using the PC or PS Vita version—instead they'll be using a PC port of the mobile version? If so, this entire campaign is absolutely absurd... This entire campaign has been absurd from the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 I posted my comment on the Prefundia page: http://prefundia.com/projects/view/chusingura461-a-visual-novel-with-moe-samurai-girls/8904/#comment-2626394763 Quote Marketing: "ChuShingura46+1 is a Historical dating-sim visual novel (or dating-sim for short) adapted from a sound novel that is based on the actual historical facts of the Ako incident." This sentence pretty much illustrates my impression of the project page. "What?" I've been following and writing about the eroge industry for years now, and if you have me confused then you have no hope of getting through to the casual users you need for this to be successfully funded. You need a writer who can actually communicate with your intended audience. The problem is part sentence structure and part overall organization. Ideas don't flow in a logical order, and important information is left out while unimportant information is emphasized. "We want to make an English version of the currently released Japanese Mobage version of Chushingura46+1. In this, we want to include original content that isn’t in the Japanese version." Again: what? What does this even mean? Project fundamentals: A direct PC port of a mobile game sounds like a terrible idea. The art will be low-resolution for one--not to mention the added technical hurdles. Why aren't you working directly with the PC version and simply porting the necessary EXTRA assets from the PS Vita version? As others have stated: what's the funding goal? "We at JAPAN CONTENT INC. have some experience in localizing and bringing visual novel to the West." Really. Then why have I never heard of you? Why has NO ONE I know in the VN fanbase ever heard of you? Tell us what visual novels you've localized. Demonstrate your competence. This is extremely important. You've given potential backers no reason at all to believe you're capable of taking on a project this ambitious and producing a quality product. If you can't demonstrate you're capable of taking on this project, you either need to start smaller (maybe a short indie game) or give up on crowdfunding. Right now, I'd advise backers to steer clear on this point alone. Censorship: This game is originally an 18+ title. Guess what that means? It's going on my censored eroge list:http://sanahtlig.blogspot.com/2016/02/eroge-with-censored-official-english-release.html If you don't want half the VN fanbase boycotting your Kickstarter and screaming at you during the campaign, I'd suggest coming up with a plan to release a version with adult content intact. See MiKandi Japan's Kickstarter of Libra of the Vampire Princess for pointers on how this can be done:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mikandijapan/libra-of-the-vampire-princess-visual-novel-english/description 1 hour ago, RikiSanic said: According to these tweets and this page, Next Ninja is the Japanese publisher of a mobile version of ChuSinGura46+1. In the prefundia they state, "We want to make an English version of the currently released Japanese Mobage version." So it doesn't look like they're using the PC or PS Vita version—instead they'll be using a PC port of the mobile version? If so, this entire campaign is absolutely absurd... It appears that NextNinja is indeed a developer of smartphone games.LinkedInOfficial website Tyr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterfuryZX Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Didn't they localize amnesia:memories? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookwormOtaku Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 This is pretty much general reaction to the second attempt: littleshogun and Veshurik 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord Rooke Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 34 minutes ago, WinterfuryZX said: Didn't they localize amnesia:memories? On 3/13/2016 at 5:48 PM, Rooke said: I've been a bit confused because people keep linking Gloczus.Inc with Amnesia:Memories and Hakuouki. Amnesia and Hakuouki actually received really nice localisations (you should buy these games if you're into otome, btw) so it was a bit surprising seeing Gloczus put out such a horrid kickstarter. So I dug around on Google for a bit, and from what I can tell Gloczus only published these games on the iOS (handled the mobile port.) They didn't localise anything, even though they worked on both those projects. Idea Factory International handled the localisation of Amnesia Memories (best otome game I played last year,) and Aksys handled the localisation of Hakuoki. Which makes a bit more sense. It seems as though they are a Japanese publisher who have worked on localisation projects in the past who are trying to raise money to take on a project completely by themselves. That's just my take. sanahtlig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikiSanic Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Gloczus isn't actually in charge of this campaign(see edit); they were listed only as "localize" in the credits. And now with this new prefundia, Gloczus isn't even listed at all. Next Ninja is now credited with localization, and as far as I know they publish only Japanese mobile games, so as for how they're qualified to localize anything is anyone's guess. The entire campaign is being run by Japan Content, and their existence is dubious at best because they never even existed before this campaign—no social media presence, and only a hastily done website. They now link to japancontent.jp in their prefundia, which I guess is their Japanese branch. But they've never given any indication that they've opened a Western branch, and they don't have a link to their supposed English website for this campaign: http://japacon.us/. I still don't know how they want us to believe that this is real and give them money when their very existence is so nebulous. EDIT: Although, Japan Content did completely copy b2g studio's (who ran the Beastmaster campaign) website, and their credits section reads the same as Beastmaster's, so maybe this is Gloczus in disguise. I have no idea why they keep starting campaigns under a different company name, though, especially when they list themselves as in charge of localization anyway. sanahtlig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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