SpiduhBMX Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Can i ask something? What do underraged means for you? i want a description of underraged. Anyone under 18 IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalRen Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 I guess my honest viewpoint on all of this is that just because Fuwanovel doesn't allow certain underage content anymore does not mean it is being removed from the entire internet. Everyone who is against this change (when it is clearly stated as being a legality issue) acts as if the internet is removing the world of lolis. You can still discuss them in Skype groups and other areas outside of the site; they are not going anywhere. As someone who lives in Japan, a country where I see this stuff everyday, the genre still exists. You can't discuss them on the site, but that doesn't mean you can't discuss them elsewhere. Yuuko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisu-Chan Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Anyone under 18 IMHO. Then please, put off everything that's here, every VN character outside Okabe is under 18 years old. starlessn1ght 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidbatman Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Incest still fine? I'm sure some people find it offending and it's not legal in that many countries. Also all VNs I know of that have loli characters state explicitly that they are 18+ no matter how cute and innocent they look. To be constructive isn't it better to ban mindless loliloli ichaicha sex sims and things around them instead of banning a pretty common thing in VNs? And I can say I'm a female. Doesn't change the fact I have a dick. What they say does not match what we see and I never understood how that changes things. Its certainly implied they aren't 18. How many 18 year olds do we know of that are still in Year 1 of High School? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenophilious Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 But there are sexualized pics of lolis there... And in the trap thread there are sexualized pics of shotas... If you'd read the first few pages, you'd know that the offending images are being taken down. Obviously, it's gonna take a while, so don't expect them all to go "poof" in ten minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decay Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Can i ask something? What do underraged means for you? i want a description of underraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlessn1ght Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Then please, put off everything that's here, every VN character outside Okabe is under 18 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuko Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 I guess my honest viewpoint on all of this is that just because Fuwanovel doesn't allow certain underage content anymore does not mean it is being removed from the entire internet. Everyone who is against this change (when it is clearly stated as being a legality issue) acts as if the internet is removing the world of lolis. You can still discuss them in Skype groups and other areas outside of the site; they are not going anywhere. As someone who lives in Japan, a country where I see this stuff everyday, the genre still exists. You can't discuss them on the site, but that doesn't mean you can't discuss them elsewhere. Kosakyun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalRen Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Exactly. I like lolis myself and I'm not posting NSFW loli pics all over the place. I have other places to do it where it is "allowed". I see no need to post NSFW lolis in Fuwa. Thanks for also using the "NSFW" mention as well. The site is still allowed to discuss lolis and post pictures of them (talking about Mare and Shinku is totally fine in my opinion), but it's the sexual images that shouldn't be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Yes. All of these points only apply to lolis/shotas. RE: Your other points -- As I tried to point out, this isn't a moral move, it's a site security issue since we cannot control the content people will post. If you're doing something on the site and you have common sense and can pull it off appropriately (read: tastefully), then it's absolutely a common sense/case by case thing. But, more specifically, this post and its rules is about the forums, not the other parts of the site. Hope that helps. So... I can repost my blog post, which was also taken down by this mess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiduhBMX Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Thanks for also using the "NSFW" mention as well. The site is still allowed to discuss lolis and post pictures of them (talking about Mare and Shinku is totally fine in my opinion), but it's the sexual images that shouldn't be allowed. If that's all it is, then i'm fine with that. I may have read wrong but it seemed like this was a ban of any and all lolis. You don't need to post NSFW anything on here, but to ban not only pictures of loli's but conversation of them too? That's siding with the offended people waaay too much. OriginalRen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Btw the definition of loli from dictionary is: Loli noun 1. A girl Steve considers to be a loli. We've had lot of discussion about this since some people call girls that are not lolis a loli, I wonder if there will be some judge on fuwa who will always have to contact me to ask if the girl in question is or isn't a loli Well anyways, I've shared my opinion so people who wanted it can read it and GL to members of fuwa on not getting your posts deleted. But yeah, Aaeru would be so happy to see that even text form of speech is being censored now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryofrzd Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Thanks for also using the "NSFW" mention as well. The site is still allowed to discuss lolis and post pictures of them (talking about Mare and Shinku is totally fine in my opinion), but it's the sexual images that shouldn't be allowed. The thing gets more complicated when it's stated that "nearly naked" or "positions them sensually" is enough to fall under the ban. Rules for images, avatars, and signatures: Do not post sexual pictures of underage characters. If an image is focused on, accentuates, or exaggerates a character's nipples, vulva, or penis or positions them sensually (body position, wet panties, nearly naked, etc.), you should not post it and it will be taken down. Simple fanservice CG might as well fall under this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidbatman Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Lolis are NOT being banned. Lolis are NOT being banned One more time for those who cannot read. LOLIS ARE NOT BEING BANNED What is being banned is sexually explicit images of lolis and shotas. suikashoujo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decay Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 If that's all it is, then i'm fine with that. I may have read wrong but it seemed like this was a ban of any and all lolis. You don't need to post NSFW anything on here, but to ban not only pictures of loli's but conversation of them too? That's siding with the offended people waaay too much. I'll invite you to read the thread's OP again because it's pretty clear. You can talk about lolis in VNs, you can talk about loli routes. You can even call them cute and express your adoration of them. All of this is still allowed. You cannot post sexualized images of lolis, you cannot debate the merits of pedophilia or other kinds of similar discussions. Tay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinovaA Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 As long as you endorse my love for Fuuko I literally give zero shits. Zenophilious and Rose 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Lolis are NOT being banned. Lolis are NOT being banned One more time for those who cannot read. LOLIS ARE NOT BEING BANNED What is being banned is sexually explicit images of lolis and shotas. This is much more simple and clear than all those fancy words. Do this next time guys please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidbatman Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Well anyways, I've shared my opinion so people who wanted it can read it and GL to members of fuwa on not getting your posts deleted. But yeah, Aaeru would be so happy to see that even text form of speech is being censored now Aaeru doesn't run Fuwanovel anymore, and her ideas no longer dictate policy. So why should we care what an admin who randomly left and tried to get us shut down might think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Lolis are NOT being banned. Lolis are NOT being banned One more time for those who cannot read. LOLIS ARE NOT BEING BANNED What is being banned is sexually explicit images of lolis and shotas. No, that has been banned like a week after l left my admin post, I even got all of my images deleted xD What is now being banned is the DISCUSSION. But hey, freedom of speech is for losers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosebleed Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Mfw this won't even affect 95% of the people posting in here anyway LiquidShu, Narcosis, solidbatman and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidbatman Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 No, that has been banned like a week after l left my admin post, I even got all of my images deleted xD What is now being banned is the DISCUSSION. But hey, freedom of speech is for losers! Youre so fucking full of yourself. Careful not to go to jail Steve for child pornography. As for me, I'd rather not go to jail and be labeled a sex offender for browsing Fuwanovel. Extreme example, I know, but users have to be protected here. You already got us in trouble once for this sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalRen Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 The thing gets more complicated when it's stated that "nearly naked" or "positions them sensually" is enough to fall under the ban. Simple fanservice CG might as well fall under this too. I mean, I don't think panty shots are a bad thing, but panty shots with clearly visible cameltoes and or sexual asses is. Lolis who are sucking on something sexually is probably not a good idea as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decay Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 No, that has been banned like a week after l left my admin post, I even got all of my images deleted xD What is now being banned is the DISCUSSION. But hey, freedom of speech is for losers! There are lots of different kinds of discussions that have always been bannable on these forums, don't pretend this used to be some wildland where you were free to post literally anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakamutt Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Hmm, what are the loli laws in CZ anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewycool Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 You people are going to get this thread locked... LinovaA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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