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    Nosebleed got a reaction from Tehoa in Moenovel teases localization of a new title   
    That's kind of a bad way to think about it though. You're basically saying companies fucking up doesn't matter since the community will just patch it up either way. Why not demand, as a consumer, that the company delivers you a good product to begin with? 
    We're very fortunate rusanon decided to make a team to patch up Konosora, but we can't simply assume that will happen every time, especially since translating a vn is an immense amount of work and most people aren't up for it. 
    I'd much rather try to get the company to fix their shit, although in Moenovel's case it might be a lost cause.
    Regardless , I really don't agree with this "compaies fucking up is okay because the fans will fix it" mindset and I hope it doesn't become the status quo anytime soon.  
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from VirginSmasher in Moenovel teases localization of a new title   
    That's kind of a bad way to think about it though. You're basically saying companies fucking up doesn't matter since the community will just patch it up either way. Why not demand, as a consumer, that the company delivers you a good product to begin with? 
    We're very fortunate rusanon decided to make a team to patch up Konosora, but we can't simply assume that will happen every time, especially since translating a vn is an immense amount of work and most people aren't up for it. 
    I'd much rather try to get the company to fix their shit, although in Moenovel's case it might be a lost cause.
    Regardless , I really don't agree with this "compaies fucking up is okay because the fans will fix it" mindset and I hope it doesn't become the status quo anytime soon.  
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from Infernoplex in Moenovel teases localization of a new title   
    That's kind of a bad way to think about it though. You're basically saying companies fucking up doesn't matter since the community will just patch it up either way. Why not demand, as a consumer, that the company delivers you a good product to begin with? 
    We're very fortunate rusanon decided to make a team to patch up Konosora, but we can't simply assume that will happen every time, especially since translating a vn is an immense amount of work and most people aren't up for it. 
    I'd much rather try to get the company to fix their shit, although in Moenovel's case it might be a lost cause.
    Regardless , I really don't agree with this "compaies fucking up is okay because the fans will fix it" mindset and I hope it doesn't become the status quo anytime soon.  
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from Rose in Moenovel teases localization of a new title   
    This is a company that should make most people worry about censorship, since they actually intentionally mistranslate the text to make it more kid friendly. It goes well beyond just removing sex scenes, it's a complete rewrite of the story, which is not okay by any professional translation  standard. At most you can call it an adaptation, not a translation, but even that would be too kind given the awful English. 
    Imagine the Harry Potter books but the word wand was replaced by water gun. Yeah, not very fun. (well now that i think about it it does sound a bit fun) 
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from pual in Moenovel teases localization of a new title   
    I guess there were enough 12 year old French girls to fund a new title. 
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from VirginSmasher in Moenovel teases localization of a new title   
    I guess there were enough 12 year old French girls to fund a new title. 
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from atorq in Moenovel teases localization of a new title   
    I guess there were enough 12 year old French girls to fund a new title. 
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from Zidan209 in Moenovel teases localization of a new title   
    I guess there were enough 12 year old French girls to fund a new title. 
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from TheFantasm in Moenovel teases localization of a new title   
    I guess there were enough 12 year old French girls to fund a new title. 
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from Dergonu in Moenovel teases localization of a new title   
    This is a company that should make most people worry about censorship, since they actually intentionally mistranslate the text to make it more kid friendly. It goes well beyond just removing sex scenes, it's a complete rewrite of the story, which is not okay by any professional translation  standard. At most you can call it an adaptation, not a translation, but even that would be too kind given the awful English. 
    Imagine the Harry Potter books but the word wand was replaced by water gun. Yeah, not very fun. (well now that i think about it it does sound a bit fun) 
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from RedK in Question to script translators.   
    The best way imo is to have the lines on a spreadsheet (i used google sheets) so you can add the translated lines (as well as the tlc and edited lines) directly next side the original ones instead of directly editing them in the script files. 
    This requires some extra tinkering though which I have no clue how to do but luckily I wasn't the one in charge of this process. 
    If you can't do this then I'm sorry to say there probably isn't a great way to handle the scripts other than just opening them with notepad++ and replacing the lines. I suggest having a copy of the original scripts opened in notepad++ as well so you can have a split view for comparison. 
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from ShinRaikdou in Question to script translators.   
    The best way imo is to have the lines on a spreadsheet (i used google sheets) so you can add the translated lines (as well as the tlc and edited lines) directly next side the original ones instead of directly editing them in the script files. 
    This requires some extra tinkering though which I have no clue how to do but luckily I wasn't the one in charge of this process. 
    If you can't do this then I'm sorry to say there probably isn't a great way to handle the scripts other than just opening them with notepad++ and replacing the lines. I suggest having a copy of the original scripts opened in notepad++ as well so you can have a split view for comparison. 
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from Darklord Rooke in Learning a language for a hobby is retarded   
    Not in the slighest. I still think it was a valid question.  
    Edit: I should point out I mostly just looked at the title. Since it was asking a question (well, sort of) I figured that was the point of the thread and the example given was just an illustration of 2 different opinions (even if we now know that wasn't the case in that particular facebook post). Maybe i just don't like reading too deeply into things.
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from Eclipsed in Learning a language for a hobby is retarded   
    When I started my Japanese classes back in my first year my teacher already automatically assumed this. (she wasn't wrong either)
    What was interesting about that first year experience though was that at the start of the semester she sent us a non obligatory inquiry via e-mail asking us what we expect to learn from the class and what other things we'd like to know about outside of the language. As you could expect, most people wrote things like "Japanese culture" in the "other" field. The end result was that every once in a while my teacher would give a small presentation about particular things the Japanese do (eg: cherry blossom viewing, new years card exchanges, new years shrine visits, etc.) and imo these were rather interesting because they really showcased a lot of behaviors we normally don't get to see. However I must be in the minority, because most of the class didn't seem to enjoy these presentations and found them boring.
    I guess this didn't fit with the class's idea of "Japanese culture". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from FinalChaos in Badly describe a Visual Novel   
    Guy who falls asleep all the time tries to create a baseball team in order to help an antisocial girl with a crippling obsession with cats. Then some matrix shit happens. Many tears shed. But in the end it doesn't even matter.
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from MasterTreecko in Badly describe a Visual Novel   
    Guy who falls asleep all the time tries to create a baseball team in order to help an antisocial girl with a crippling obsession with cats. Then some matrix shit happens. Many tears shed. But in the end it doesn't even matter.
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from Dreamysyu in Badly describe a Visual Novel   
    Guy who falls asleep all the time tries to create a baseball team in order to help an antisocial girl with a crippling obsession with cats. Then some matrix shit happens. Many tears shed. But in the end it doesn't even matter.
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from solidbatman in Corpse Party - should I play with a guide or not?   
    While I understand the philosophy of not using guides, Corpse Party has like 10 different bad endings for every good ending. It's very easy to keep messing up and rather hard to figure out what you're supposed to do sometimes.
    Though I will say if you look for the clues, they are there, so perhaps only use a guide if you're truly stuck after half an hour.
    I used a guide for Corpse Party Book of Shadows because walking around the map and constantly getting stuck was annoying, and I don't believe that really ruined my enjoyment of it. I also used a guide for some bits of Corpse Party Blood Covered, and that didn't ruin the game for me.
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from Okarin in Learning a language for a hobby is retarded   
    Telling people why they shouldn't learn something they clearly care about is even more retarded imo. 
    I don't go around telling stamp collectors that spending money on stamps is stupid. Because it's what they enjoy doing. Similarly, learning a language can serve multiple purposes, and neither of those purposes is wrong (well, I guess if you're learning a language to join a terrorist organization, that might not be so great). 
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from Tyr in Learning a language for a hobby is retarded   
    When I started my Japanese classes back in my first year my teacher already automatically assumed this. (she wasn't wrong either)
    What was interesting about that first year experience though was that at the start of the semester she sent us a non obligatory inquiry via e-mail asking us what we expect to learn from the class and what other things we'd like to know about outside of the language. As you could expect, most people wrote things like "Japanese culture" in the "other" field. The end result was that every once in a while my teacher would give a small presentation about particular things the Japanese do (eg: cherry blossom viewing, new years card exchanges, new years shrine visits, etc.) and imo these were rather interesting because they really showcased a lot of behaviors we normally don't get to see. However I must be in the minority, because most of the class didn't seem to enjoy these presentations and found them boring.
    I guess this didn't fit with the class's idea of "Japanese culture". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from Chinadude101 in Learning a language for a hobby is retarded   
    Telling people why they shouldn't learn something they clearly care about is even more retarded imo. 
    I don't go around telling stamp collectors that spending money on stamps is stupid. Because it's what they enjoy doing. Similarly, learning a language can serve multiple purposes, and neither of those purposes is wrong (well, I guess if you're learning a language to join a terrorist organization, that might not be so great). 
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from Funyarinpa in Learning a language for a hobby is retarded   
    Telling people why they shouldn't learn something they clearly care about is even more retarded imo. 
    I don't go around telling stamp collectors that spending money on stamps is stupid. Because it's what they enjoy doing. Similarly, learning a language can serve multiple purposes, and neither of those purposes is wrong (well, I guess if you're learning a language to join a terrorist organization, that might not be so great). 
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from Li-Fei in Learning a language for a hobby is retarded   
    Telling people why they shouldn't learn something they clearly care about is even more retarded imo. 
    I don't go around telling stamp collectors that spending money on stamps is stupid. Because it's what they enjoy doing. Similarly, learning a language can serve multiple purposes, and neither of those purposes is wrong (well, I guess if you're learning a language to join a terrorist organization, that might not be so great). 
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from Nandemonai in Learning a language for a hobby is retarded   
    Telling people why they shouldn't learn something they clearly care about is even more retarded imo. 
    I don't go around telling stamp collectors that spending money on stamps is stupid. Because it's what they enjoy doing. Similarly, learning a language can serve multiple purposes, and neither of those purposes is wrong (well, I guess if you're learning a language to join a terrorist organization, that might not be so great). 
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    Nosebleed got a reaction from Gibberish in Learning a language for a hobby is retarded   
    Telling people why they shouldn't learn something they clearly care about is even more retarded imo. 
    I don't go around telling stamp collectors that spending money on stamps is stupid. Because it's what they enjoy doing. Similarly, learning a language can serve multiple purposes, and neither of those purposes is wrong (well, I guess if you're learning a language to join a terrorist organization, that might not be so great). 
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