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I almost forgot about this, actually. I waited quite a while for K: Missing Kings, so I'm not really bothered by how long stuff takes to get subbed nowadays.

 

On the case of Code Geass: Akito the Exiled, it still isn't released even in the Jap version until now. Finally, they have a preview for it now and this year, I think they'll finally release it. If I'm guessing right the subbed version would appear 3 or so months after the original release. (If I recall correctly, it took 3 mos. for ep.2 to be subbed but it still depends on the one doing the sub)

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On the case of Code Geass: Akito the Exiled, it still isn't released even in the Jap version until now. Finally, they have a preview for it now and this year, I think they'll finally release it. If I'm guessing right the subbed version would appear 3 or so months after the original release. (If I recall correctly, it took 3 mos. for ep.2 to be subbed but it still depends on the one doing the sub)

MAL claims it was released/aired or whichever on the 2nd of this month. As to who's doing the subbing, it looks like the first two were done by different groups, so who knows. Wouldn't be surprised if it's longer than 3 if that's the case, though.

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Has anyone here ever seen Seitokai no Yakuindomo? I heard it was hilarious but I'm not too fond of crude humor. Should I watch?

I say give the first couple episodes a try. I'm not typically a fan of crude humor either but I loved it. The anime is about 75% sex jokes and 25% short people jokes.

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Has anyone here ever seen Seitokai no Yakuindomo? I heard it was hilarious but I'm not too fond of crude humor. Should I watch?

Mildly funny, though it's a show solely centered about sex jokes.

Some are funny, some fall flat.

The OVAs are the best as they collect thr funnier jokes.

Season 1 is fun, season 2 is more of the same.

I'd say the main issue one can run into is the humor drying up.

As someone who's read the manga i can say that marathoning it might not be the best idea in the world, unless you really do love crude humor, which you don't seem to love, so maybe consider watching a couple episodes and if it didn't pick up for you then it probably won't later either since there's nothing much that changes outside of cast additions.

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I'm not watching any right now, so to speak, but I did just binge watch over the last two days, SNAFU. I'm fully caught up now, and quite frankly, for some reason or another that I can't really pinpoint (weird), I greatly enjoyed it. 

 

I -am- considering re-watching ALL of the Monogatari series, though. That stuff is beautiful. Brilliance. 

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Just watched K: Missing Kings.

 

I liked it a lot. It was as good as the anime and I for one did like the anime. 

The animation was gold, it was pretty refreshing to see some Unlimited Budgets for something other than Ufotable.

 

The movie sets up perfectly for what would be the final arc. Can't wait for the next season.

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I say give the first couple episodes a try. I'm not typically a fan of crude humor either but I loved it. The anime is about 75% sex jokes and 25% short people jokes.

 

Mildly funny, though it's a show solely centered about sex jokes.

Some are funny, some fall flat.

The OVAs are the best as they collect thr funnier jokes.

Season 1 is fun, season 2 is more of the same.

I'd say the main issue one can run into is the humor drying up.

As someone who's read the manga i can say that marathoning it might not be the best idea in the world, unless you really do love crude humor, which you don't seem to love, so maybe consider watching a couple episodes and if it didn't pick up for you then it probably won't later either since there's nothing much that changes outside of cast additions.

Thanks guys. I'll give it a try. I definitely won't watch it all in one go but I tend to watch one anime at a time so hopefully I won't need a break from it.

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Oh, the movie's subbed now? Sweet, I'll give it a go.

 

Even though I was kind of disinterested in it at first, the TV series really started to pick up towards the end. Looking forward to the sequel as well.

Yeah the movie has a good story progression unlike the first half of the season. And the ost is also great.

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Finished watching Denpa Onna to Seishun Otoko.

 

Overall, I liked the show.

 

Erio is 10/10. Meme is 10/10. As expected of meme. :holo:

Besides that, I liked how the story went. I like how normal it is, and I liked the characters as well. Normal is a good thing once in a while. I guess I like how it reminded me of everyday life. Although considering the latter part of the series, I don't know if you can still call that normal lol. That last part got me real good though. I saw it coming, but it would've been nice if it wasn't true. But inevitably, it was. I just can't explain why I liked it so. I also liked the episode where Meme did stuff for Granny. That scene struck me as nice too. The overall feeling is really nice, and makes me want to go outside and do stuff. Because, well, y'know. Stuff. I suck at explaining stuff, especially something like this.

 

The animation was nice, of course. I also like the seishun point sequence in the end of each episode. It was nice seeing that. OP and ED really fit the show, imo. I liked the OP and ED very much. Though the first time I watched the OP, it was plain weird.

 

Overall, it wasn't 'omg this is the best' good, but it was nice. I don't regret watching it.

 

Also, this reminds me so much of Meme.

Or should it be Araragi?

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Hime-sama Goyoujin.  What a zany show!  It really was a blast.  This is not a "4 girls crack jokes to each other" comedy, no sir.  This is "situation gets more and more ridiculous until it's insane".  Reminds me of the heady days of Dragon Half and Bannou-bunka Neko-musume Nuku-nuku

 

Oh, and before that, I watched Arpeggio of Blue Steel (it's a more sophisticated Kancolle)

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I -am- considering re-watching ALL of the Monogatari series, though. That stuff is beautiful. Brilliance. 

Am I the only person who really dislikes -monogatari?  Its probably because it has like no action and is all semantics, but I found the walls of text in Bakemono completely unjustified for a medium that is meant to show rather than tell.  Seriously, when over half your show is characters doing unmeaningful things with the focus being the talking, I hardly find it worth the effort to watch instead of read or listen.  I don't care how "SHAFT"-y it is, it failed the minimum benchmark of using the medium properly.

 

I started watching Arslan Senki.  I saw the fantasy tag which gave me false hopes of something actually fantasy instead of historical fiction.  They mention a dragon at one point, but then immediately sink that ship by calling that rumor a lie.  I never cared much for history or geography, so I might drop this one depending on how it plays out.

 

Also, I can't help but agree with Code-Zero's assessment of calling DxD the new Zero no Tsukaima.  Looking at how much they changed, it seriously became a spinoff season instead of a faithful adaptation with improvements. I seem to remember Vali, Barakiel, and the Oppai god in the fight against Fenrir, but they were nowhere to be seen.  They also shafted the entire sequence with Rias's mother challenging how Issei calls Rias and training him to be her groom, which completely screws the dynamic of the future setup for when he has to confront his past by making Rias seem less important. I also can't tell if the animation quality dropped because it's been so long since I watched the first two seasons, and I might be spoiled by other studios, but it seems like the colors are far more flat or they didn't shade properly, but the characters all look really off.  

 

I'll still watch it just to see where it goes, but in my perfect world, I hope it sells enough to get a fourth season, but not well enough to make them rethink how they adapted it, and stop making unnecessary changes.  Seriously, there was no reason to split up and dissect that fight scene with Fenrir and cut all the scenes between Issei and Rias's mother.  Honestly though, there won't be a fourth season.  I just can't see it happening.

 

EDIT: Total afterthought: HOLY SHIT! THEY CUT THE OPPAI GOD! WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.  This could actually have serious story ramifications if it does by some miracle get animated for a long time.

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Also, I can't help but agree with Code-Zero's assessment of calling DxD the new Zero no Tsukaima. Looking at how much they changed, it seriously became a spinoff season instead of a faithful adaptation with improvements. I seem to remember Vali, Barakiel, and the Oppai god in the fight against Fenrir, but they were nowhere to be seen. They also shafted the entire sequence with Rias's mother challenging how Issei calls Rias and training him to be her groom, which completely screws the dynamic of the future setup for when he has to confront his past by making Rias seem less important. I also can't tell if the animation quality dropped because it's been so long since I watched the first two seasons, and I might be spoiled by other studios, but it seems like the colors are far more flat or they didn't shade properly, but the characters all look really off.

I'll still watch it just to see where it goes, but in my perfect world, I hope it sells enough to get a fourth season, but not well enough to make them rethink how they adapted it, and stop making unnecessary changes. Seriously, there was no reason to split up and dissect that fight scene with Fenrir and cut all the scenes between Issei and Rias's mother. Honestly though, there won't be a fourth season. I just can't see it happening.

EDIT: Total afterthought: HOLY SHIT! THEY CUT THE OPPAI GOD! WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. This could actually have serious story ramifications if it does by some miracle get animated for a long time.

I've read somewhere that Ishibumi is overseeing this season, so I have to think there's some reason for the changes. What it is though, I haven't the faintest.

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Am I the only person who really dislikes -monogatari? Its probably because it has like no action and is all semantics, but I found the walls of text in Bakemono completely unjustified for a medium that is meant to show rather than tell. Seriously, when over half your show is characters doing unmeaningful things with the focus being the talking, I hardly find it worth the effort to watch instead of read or listen. I don't care how "SHAFT"-y it is, it failed the minimum benchmark of using the medium properly.

That's the whole point of the show though, storytelling. In an unusual, quirky way with tons of wordplay and whatnot, alongside fabulous visuals. Indeed it's not jampacked with action, but that was never the goal of it to begin with, this is an anime series that's trying to be different in a medium that always follows a cookie cutter formula, that's why it's so highly praised, why should anime be more for show rather than tell, why can't they tell a fantastic story through the use of awesome scripting? And that's one major reason the Monogatari series is highly regarded, the rest of course is because the story is interesting, mysterious and unique overall, the characters are also all unique and the quality of the show as a whole is really really good.

For those looking for some fast paced action, this is definitely not the show for them, but for those looking for a different storytelling experience, it's definitely a really good show.

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That's the whole point of the show though, storytelling. In an unusual, quirky way with tons of wordplay and whatnot, alongside fabulous visuals. Indeed it's not jampacked with action, but that was never the goal of it to begin with, this is an anime series that's trying to be different in a medium that always follows a cookie cutter formula, that's why it's so highly praised, why should anime be more for show rather than tell, why can't they tell a fantastic story through the use of awesome scripting? And that's one major reason the Monogatari series is highly regarded, the rest of course is because the story is interesting, mysterious and unique overall, the characters are also all unique and the quality of the show as a whole is really really good.

For those looking for some fast paced action, this is definitely not the show for them, but for those looking for a different storytelling experience, it's definitely a really good show.

why should anime be more for show rather than tell

Because its video! Thats what video does!  :michiru:

 

But again, the show isn't SHOWING anything, thus disregarding the strongest point of the medium.  You can be creative , and not use any cookie cutter formula, or not even be packed with action, but the fact that you aren't showing anything means that you are single handedly undermining the point of video.  Its not the fact that there is no action, its that there is little to no meaningful actions. I can't say that the video is unrelated, because it is clearly related, but that doesn't mean that the video is useful. Even videos that explain things display information relating to the topic they are talking about, helping to give the watcher understanding of what it is they are trying to explain.

 

Think of it this way, a video game, by definition requires human interaction, so a video game that has very little interaction has very little merit as a video game.  Thats why we beat on games that remove that player interaction and replace it with cutscenes or anything that takes away control and makes our choices for us.  In the same way, an audiovisual experience with very little meaning in the visual portion removes the entire purpose of making it audiovisual in the first place.

 

I'm done ranting, time to finish watching what I have of Arslan Senki and start on the vampires? of Kekkai Sensen.  Seriously, Kekkai Sensen reminds me way too much of Mahou Sensou in the naming department.  It probably has a lot to do with Kekkaishi being one of the first shows I watched while watching Adult Swim like 6 years ago, so I immediately relate Kekkai to Magic, so it mentally becomes:

Kekkai   => Mahou

Sensen => Sensou

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Because its video! Thats what video does!  :michiru:

 

But again, the show isn't SHOWING anything, thus disregarding the strongest point of the medium.  You can be creative , and not use any cookie cutter formula, or not even be packed with action, but the fact that you aren't showing anything means that you are single handedly undermining the point of video.  Its not the fact that there is no action, its that there is little to no meaningful actions. I can't say that the video is unrelated, because it is clearly related, but that doesn't mean that the video is useful. Even videos that explain things display information relating to the topic they are talking about, helping to give the watcher understanding of what it is they are trying to explain.

 

But they show stuff and especially the really weird visualizations in Bakemonogatari are awesome. The way the show things is just little different from the norm. And you got to give them credit for making normal conversations look as interesting. Normal anime would have static scene with one background, where as Bakemonogatari has changing angles, color filters, close ups, random scenery shots and so on. Artsy Shaft style might be really weird and not even always relevant, but I feel it's really fitting for the show. Without it Bakemonogatari would be boring anime with good story, with the weirdness it's unique and interesting anime with good story. 

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You know, Abyssal Monkey, I completely agree with the points you made in regards to ~monogatari. It's for the same exact reasons that I didn't entirely like the show myself; the storytelling is nowhere near the ideal that animation should strive for. I personally always thought it would be much better to experience this as a novel than as an anime. At the same time, I don't want to hold it against the producers for adapting the books as they did, it'd likely be detrimental to the show if they tried to add in some kind of gimmick to make more use of the medium's strengths. And without an anime, there wouldn't be as much awareness for ~monogatari LNs, and its sales wouldn't be at peak potential. Considering the kind of storytelling this series uses, I'd still tip my hat off to Shaft for keeping it presentable with their designs and direction.

 

But they show stuff and especially the really weird visualizations in Bakemonogatari are awesome. The way the show things is just little different from the norm. And you got to give them credit for making normal conversations look as interesting. Normal anime would have static scene with one background, where as Bakemonogatari has changing angles, color filters, close ups, random scenery shots and so on. Artsy Shaft style might be really weird and not even always relevant, but I feel it's really fitting for the show. Without it Bakemonogatari would be boring anime with good story, with the weirdness it's unique and interesting anime with good story. 

Yeah, but there are mediums such as visual novels and even picture books that can make use of the same thing. It's not about what the anime does to enhance the experience, but how much it sticks to the standard. Being unique can certainly be a plus if done correctly, but it shouldn't always be viewed as a mark of quality. I mean, heck, you could even make a unique anime about an ant having regular conversations with a lady bug. And while dialogue can be an important quality, a work that only shines for that won't have the same strength as an anime which fully utilizes its advantages. Consider the reason animation and film are so much more appealing than narrative works. It uses its surroundings to tell a story, it hits you with emotional soundtracks to envelop you in its atmosphere, it utilizes various direction techniques further enhance the impact you get from the animation and scenarios, and finally the animation which adds energy and vigor to give the work more life. It is because ~monogatari doesn't utilize these strengths to the fullest that it falls flat as an anime. It would certainly make for a fantastic novel, though (especially when you consider the many freedoms that novels have over anime).

 

That's not to say it shouldn't be considered enjoyable. I kinda liked wrapping my head around many of the conversations that were had in this series. It just isn't cut out for this medium.

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But this is unique in a good way, it's filled with clever writing and dialogue to enhance the experience that is the story they're telling.

Also they do show you the meaningful stuff happening on screen, you can't say literally nothing happens, it's just that most of the exposure occurs in the form of dialogue, but that dialogue is quite cleverly crafted.

 

As someone else put it: "Bakemonogatari" is essentially a verbal performance with visual support. 

 

It was an experimental series that succeeded. One can not deny the clever writing that went into the show, sadly a lot of the cleverness is lost in subtitles, no matter how good these subtitles may be (and any fansub will tell you the same).

 

Whenever someome tells me Bakemonogatari is not good because there's not a lot of action happening on screen, a kitten dies.

 

This series is one of the most well thought out anime in recent years and it executes the theme brilliantly, the visuals are beautiful and they serve as a support for the awesome dialogues, so yes this anime does utilize visuals more cleverely than most I would even say, it's just that unlike most anime, this one is not about fast paced action or anything like that.

 

And the sheer amount of Monogatari fans probably shows why this series is so good.

 

I agree that this series is not for everybody, it absolutely is not, but saying it's not good because it doesn't fit the medium or doesn't have a lot going on screen really reallyyyy irks me. The Monogatari series is a product created from amazing author working with an amazing director to create an amazing story. It's a journey through some of the most amazing prose, coupled with some of the most amazing visuals, it doesn't need to have crazy fast paced action, it's meant to make the viewer witness a journey created mainly by words.

 

 

Anyway, started watching Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, brilliant, fucking brilliant, that's all I have to say.

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Started on Bakuman last night, watched 2 episodes so far and it's enjoyable, it looks like it'll get better and I hope it does, the characters are decent enough, if it only wasn't for

the awkward moment where he screams about getting married even though they have barly talked.

But oh well that's part of the charm, I can imagine that I'll finish this anime but it's probably gonna take me a while.

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I'm not trying to say that ~monogatari isn't well-written or that it doesn't have any entertainment value, I'm saying it doesn't work as an anime. I'm not gonna be a jerk and say your opinion is invalid or anything like that (when it comes down to it, entertainment is subjective), I'm just stating my own and backing it up with objective statements.
 

I agree that this series is not for everybody, it absolutely is not, but saying it's not good because it doesn't fit the medium or doesn't have a lot going on screen really reallyyyy irks me. The Monogatari series is a product created from amazing author working with an amazing director to create an amazing story. It's a journey through some of the most amazing prose, coupled with some of the most amazing visuals, it doesn't need to have crazy fast paced action, it's meant to make the viewer witness a journey created mainly by words.

I'm not trying to say you're in the wrong for liking this. Seriously, not at all. I just saw Abyssal Monkey post something that I agreed with and I felt like voicing my opinion along with him. But I can understand how you feel, and I actually kinda regret typing that, because it's never any fun to rain in on peoples' parade this strongly. Not only is it entirely pointless, but it tends to invoke irrational thinking that bars the argument from making any progress (it happens to me; it happens to the best of us).

 

But try to understand that my pride won't allow me to just simply back away when someone attacks my opinion.

I'd rather end this argument right here and now to avoid unnecessary stress for either of us, but I'll continue if you want to argue against the points I made.

But this is unique in a good way, it's filled with clever writing and dialogue to enhance the experience that is the story they're telling.
Also they do show you the meaningful stuff happening on screen, you can't say literally nothing happens, it's just that most of the exposure occurs in the form of dialogue, but that dialogue is quite cleverly crafted.

As someone else put it: "Bakemonogatari" is essentially a verbal performance with visual support.

Heck yeah, I think it's pretty damn clever too. But if there's nothing else to enhance the dialogue than just voice acting and visuals, then what would make an anime adaption more suitable than a VN adaption? The main reason an anime would be preferred over a VN is that it has a wider audience, making it easier to market the original. A VN, however, would be much more enjoyable because it'd have the narrative freedom to add more depth to the dialogue and allow for visual and audio enhancements.
 

It was an experimental series that succeeded. One can not deny the clever writing that went into the show, sadly a lot of the cleverness is lost in subtitles, no matter how good these subtitles may be (and any fansub will tell you the same).

As a project, unquestionably. It managed to hit high marks with sales, has a fantastic fanbase, and it can leave an impression on just about anybody. While I feel that it definitely deserves the success it had with its experimental setup, I still won't consider approving it.
I'm more than aware of the negative impacts that fansubbing can have on anime that puts emphasis on dialogue, but that's not really related to anything I said about the limitations involved with adapting this kind of work to anime.
 

Whenever someome tells me Bakemonogatari is not good because there's not a lot of action happening on screen, a kitten dies.

This series is one of the most well thought out anime in recent years and it executes the theme brilliantly, the visuals are beautiful and they serve as a support for the awesome dialogues, so yes this anime does utilize visuals more cleverely than most I would even say, it's just that unlike most anime, this one is not about fast paced action or anything like that.

But that's exactly what anime shines for. It doesn't even have to be thrilling, action-intensive, thought-provoking, or dramatic, it just has to have progressive events happening for it to work. This is why direction is needed in anime and not so much for any other medium, because of the continuous array of scenarios that progress the story/setting/characters and the necessity to transition them fluidly. Have you ever heard of a director working on giving a book better fluidity? That would be pretty nonsensical; a capable writer is more than able to manage that with effective narration. Leaving the marketing details aside, it's completely unnecessary for ~monogatari to be an anime
 

And the sheer amount of Monogatari fans probably shows why this series is so good.

There have been times where I thought some popular anime aren't all they're cracked up to be. I can be pretty pessimistic sometimes.

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I am starting to watch Hataraku Maou-sama now. The only things I know about it is that it´s from a light novel and that one character is a waitress whose breasts look great when they lie on a tray.

Let´s see how this one turns out...

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I've watched the first two episodes of the second season of JJBA: Stardust Crusaders. Not a bad intro for a new character, though I hope he doesn't become this series' equivalent of Scrappy Doo. Don't like the new opening much compared to the previous ones, though I like the new ending even if it is a bit surprising to not get anything with vocals. The music and imagery it shows does have my impending character death senses tingling though... :unsure:

I am starting to watch Hataraku Maou-sama now. The only things I know about it is that it´s from a light novel and that one character is a waitress whose breasts look great when they lie on a tray.

Let´s see how this one turns out...

I found it enjoyable, sure wish there was a second season... :(

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Just finished Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei

Quite the interesting comedy, it reminded me of Paniponi Dashi minus the absurd amount of pop culture references.

The characters were all super likeable, i legitimately didn't hate a single one of them.

I also think Zetsubou Sensei got himself a great harem, at some point this show felt more like a romcom, a good one though.

Best grill title definitely goes to the stalker girl.

It's definitely hard to look back on on the show and analyze it since it's so episodic, but i found all the quirkiness very entertaining and all the despair to be rather satisfying.

It wasn't over the top, but the gags were effective and kept me entertained.

Will definitely keep watching the sequels and probably read the manga.

絶望した!

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