Flutterz Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Funyarinpa said: Haven't started a VN in months either. Last few VNs I've started: Princess Evangile 22/10/15, stalled Majikoi 10/09/15, finished Fate/Hollow Ataraxia 21/11/14, finished Get on my level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valmore Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I'm in the middle of so many VNs because I probably secretly have ADD or something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funyarinpa Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Since you people are the only ones who'd understand, I'll just leave this here. My dad called my gaming habit an addiction an hour ago. I can't bear to even look at my gaming stuff right now. I can't sleep. Just opening Fuwa agitated me. I made rashes on both of my arms by scratching, deliberately. I think I was seeking that sharp feeling self-cutters (I have the perception that) feel. It helped in that it reduced the mental chaos a bit somehow. Maybe placebo. Still doing it, to a constant rhythm. Anyways, this is a testament about what gaming is for me. There's addiction, but there's more to it than that too. The best part of my day is always gaming or talking on gaming forums (Fuwa being my favorite website and community ever). The people I befriended through gaming are most of my close friends at this point. Actually, the only people I hang out with outside school are schoolmates of mine I formed a clique with. All of us like memes and stuff (I find it cringeworthy myself but it's what it is). We're all gamers, from casual CoD player to a swindler on Roblox (he's actually in the top 5000 players or something) to me the Japanese niche stuff enthusiast. Then there's the internet. The people I meet through gaming are the people I want to talk to. There's much more common interest. They're more willing to talk. I can't really comprehend how one would go about living without gaming, people without gaming in their life are people I never feel I truly understand. IRL, I'm surrounded by people who I don't understand or relate to. Gaming let me meet people I want to be friends with. Nothing else provides the same connection. And now my dad's banging on the door and trying to take away my consoles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valmore Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I'm not sure of your age and your dad's age and all the other circumstances. There's usually some sort of generational disconnect on certain things. This one tech would be the most likely candidate for disconnect, as it usually is. Part of it may be he can't relate to your interests. There's probably a lot of complex factors in here that I don't have access to. It makes me hesitant to say, "He's probably just concerned for you." He might just be, and maybe going overboard with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDice Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 4 hours ago, Flutterz said: Last few VNs I've started: Princess Evangile 22/10/15, stalled Majikoi 10/09/15, finished Fate/Hollow Ataraxia 21/11/14, finished Get on my level That's still like 10x more than what Eclipsed has gotten done in the last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Poltroon Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 51 minutes ago, Funyarinpa said: Since you people are the only ones who'd understand, I'll just leave this here. My dad called my gaming habit an addiction an hour ago. I can't bear to even look at my gaming stuff right now. I can't sleep. Just opening Fuwa agitated me. I made rashes on both of my arms by scratching, deliberately. I think I was seeking that sharp feeling self-cutters (I have the perception that) feel. It helped in that it reduced the mental chaos a bit somehow. Maybe placebo. Still doing it, to a constant rhythm. Anyways, this is a testament about what gaming is for me. There's addiction, but there's more to it than that too. The best part of my day is always gaming or talking on gaming forums (Fuwa being my favorite website and community ever). The people I befriended through gaming are most of my close friends at this point. Actually, the only people I hang out with outside school are schoolmates of mine I formed a clique with. All of us like memes and stuff (I find it cringeworthy myself but it's what it is). We're all gamers, from casual CoD player to a swindler on Roblox (he's actually in the top 5000 players or something) to me the Japanese niche stuff enthusiast. Then there's the internet. The people I meet through gaming are the people I want to talk to. There's much more common interest. They're more willing to talk. I can't really comprehend how one would go about living without gaming, people without gaming in their life are people I never feel I truly understand. IRL, I'm surrounded by people who I don't understand or relate to. Gaming let me meet people I want to be friends with. Nothing else provides the same connection. And now my dad's banging on the door and trying to take away my consoles. I can relate to a minimal extent. My father has this annoying tendency of calling my PC habits an addiction. It hurts every time. It's not like he is entirely wrong. What life have I even got outside the PC? If it makes you feel better, you have other human beings around your age or around you that like gaming and you can be friends with. I have no such thing, and yet I remain living. As for your father, you certainly need to make him understand that, especially these days, gaming is entirely usual. Sure, if you spend entire days gaming (like me) he'd have plenty of reason to call you out on it, but otherwise? This all said, I have no convenient solutions. I would suggest trying to figure out what you're abusing or doing too much of. What other things could you be doing that you're refraining of just so you can game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutterz Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Funyarinpa said: Since you people are the only ones who'd understand, I'll just leave this here. Sounds like what happened to me while I was in high school, my parents would get on my case for playing video games too much, and preventing me from playing over the smallest fault. Eventually I guess they realized there was no point in that and that I'll stop on my own when the time comes (which will be never) They don't call it an addiction though, but my dear grandma does. Then again she also says I'm handsome so she's clearly delusional Dunno what to tell you though, when it comes to topics like that people who don't get them will probably never get that it's a relatively normal occurrence and that video games don't cause people to go on killing sprees, and that despite the fact that they might want the best for you, trying to separate you from it won't do much good in most cases. When I wasn't allowed to play games/talk to people online (and this was back when I had some irl friends) I'd read a book instead or something, not go socialize irl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenophilious Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Funyarinpa said: -snip- Used to be in a pretty similar situation to you, actually. I was quite a loser slacker for a long time (not saying you are), and basically just went on the internet or played games when I wasn't at school. My mom freaked out because I wasn't acting like all the other kids and put parental controls on the computer and started taking the cords away. I "broke" through the parental controls (I just put a tiny bit of code I got from the internet and wrote down into Terminal xD Parental controls are shit) and bought and hid backup cords in my room. Basically checkmated her for a while, but she never stopped harping on about how I was addicted until I got a job and started doing better in school. I admittedly was spending too much time on screens, but no, I wasn't addicted. I could function without using the internet longer than she could without using her phone or Facebook lol Try to see what they want you to do instead of being on the net all the time. I'm not saying to stop doing what you're doing entirely, just try to appease them in some way, unless they're being absolutely ridiculous and ignorant. That's what I did and my mom stopped bothering me about it. Fred the Barber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 2 hours ago, TexasDice said: That's still like 10x more than what Eclipsed has gotten done in the last year. HEY! I'll have you know, I actually finished like... 23 VNs over the past year ._. ~~ @Fun ohhh yes, the dreaded "You play games too much!@#" / "How are you on the computer for 12 hours a day!@#" first world parent problems I actually had an internet / gaming curfew back in HS. 9pm no matter what, I cannot play games. Turn off the internet router, too. Though for some reason watching TV was okay after-hours. Fk man, those were the days. I don't have that anymore, thank god. imo parents just have this weird stigma against gaming causing their kids to become lazy & unproductive. Which I guess is fair, thinking about it. I wouldn't like seeing my kid come home from school and then game until bedtime all day errday. I'm juggling 17 units and my part time job nowadays though, so my parents have been A LOT more lax with my extended gaming sessions should they occur since they know I just need the time to unwind. My dad still likes to hound me sometimes though. It was NOT fun having him raid my room telling me to study when 1) I already did study you quack and 2) I was in the middle of one VLR's fabulous revelation moments ._. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenshin_sama Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Eclipsed said: I actually had an internet / gaming curfew back in HS. 9pm no matter what, I cannot play games. That's pretty generous compared to my dad. I got to play 1 hour a day on school days, and 2 hours a day on days off. >.< But yeah, Funya, I'm sorry to hear about all that trouble you're having. He's going about it the wrong way, but I can tell your father has good intentions when he tries to keep you off gaming. My dad was very much the same way. I encourage you to think positively. I know what you're going through is really frustrating and stressful, and you have every reason to be upset, but try as hard as you can to keep yourself from thinking negatively. I guarantee you (I learned this from group therapy), it will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord Rooke Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 7 hours ago, Funyarinpa said: Since you people are the only ones who'd understand, I'll just leave this here. A lot of people want to support you in this, I’m going to post the other side of the coin. I apologise in advance. Your parents are responsible for your upbringing. They’ll want to make sure you develop in a healthy manner, socialise in a healthy way so you can network, learn the skills necessary in life so you can live independently and scrape out a living when you reach adulthood. Gaming is entertainment, and life isn’t about doing the things you enjoy for 6, 7, or 8 hours a day. Life isn’t about talking about the things you enjoy for 6, 7, or 8 hours a day. If you get into a bad habit when you’re young, it impedes your ability to buckle down and work hard into the future. Preparing you for life means preparing you for life’s expectations. If you’re at the stage where you can’t comprehend your life without gaming, you’re at the stage where you probably have a problem significant enough to impede your quality of life, or your ability to survive or function or whatever. Erm, whether he’s right in taking away your consoles is another thing altogether, and whether he’s diagnosed the problem as an ‘addiction’ is an unrelated issue. People who think parents don’t ‘understand’ is not recognising the issue. It’s not about gaming, it’s not about understanding the cultural acceptance of gaming, it’s about your development. Parents are worried and it’s their responsibility. If your parents are like this, I think it’s about showing them that you can maintain balance in your life, that’s all. I love my books, and many many years ago now, when I used to love to scurry away and do nothing but read, my father stormed up and ripped my books in half in front of me. Why? Because that’s all I’d do all day. If I couldn’t control myself, he’d remove the temptation. Now that I’m living by myself I have a pretty decent library, but I’m not living with them (so I’m not their problem) and I can survive and take care of myself, so … Fred the Barber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the Barber Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, Rooke said: A lot of people want to support you in this, I’m going to post the other side of the coin. I apologise in advance. Your parents are responsible for your upbringing. They’ll want to make sure you develop in a healthy manner, socialise in a healthy way so you can network, learn the skills necessary in life so you can live independently and scrape out a living when you reach adulthood. Gaming is entertainment, and life isn’t about doing the things you enjoy for 6, 7, or 8 hours a day. Life isn’t about talking about the things you enjoy for 6, 7, or 8 hours a day. If you get into a bad habit when you’re young, it impedes your ability to buckle down and work hard into the future. Preparing you for life means preparing you for life’s expectations. If you’re at the stage where you can’t comprehend your life without gaming, you’re at the stage where you probably have a problem significant enough to impede your quality of life, or your ability to survive or function or whatever. Erm, whether he’s right in taking away your consoles is another thing altogether, and whether he’s diagnosed the problem as an ‘addiction’ is an unrelated issue. People who think parents don’t ‘understand’ is not recognising the issue. It’s not about gaming, it’s not about understanding the cultural acceptance of gaming, it’s about your development. Parents are worried and it’s their responsibility. If your parents are like this, I think it’s about showing them that you can maintain balance in your life, that’s all. I love my books, and many many years ago now, when I used to love to scurry away and do nothing but read, my father stormed up and ripped my books in half in front of me. Why? Because that’s all I’d do all day. If I couldn’t control myself, he’d remove the temptation. Now that I’m living by myself I have a pretty decent library, but I’m not living with them (so I’m not their problem) and I can survive and take care of myself, so … @Funyarinpa: I wasn't with Rooke until that last paragraph, but yeah, that about nails it. When I was younger and lived with my parents, I spent quite a lot of time playing video games, and they didn't bother me about it at all. But I was also doing very well in high school, and then went off on my own to a good college where I did fine. When I asked them about it, years after I'd finished college, they said roughly "Well, you seemed to get good grades and have friends, so we decided we didn't have any reason to stop you from playing games." So, find out what they're worried about, and then (for your sake as well as theirs) work on that. You're clearly a bright guy, so you should be able to do that and still have plenty of time to do the things you want to do, and I expect you'll find you end up in a better place because of it. You often talk about wanting to do particular things, like astrophysics, in and after college - what your parents are doing right now is probably targeted at getting you on that path. And it's not a binary choice - you can do both, if you properly focus. It's hard, and it's harder for some people (maybe including you) than for others, but the sooner you learn to work hard and focus on schoolwork, the better prepared you will be for college and a subsequent career. And as much as I'm a bad example for some things, I'm a good example for someone who has a satisfying, decent-paying job, and still gets a great deal of pleasure out of playing games. It's absolutely possible to have it both ways, if you're willing to work for it. Darklord Rooke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 20 minutes ago, Rooke said: I can survive and take care of myself, so … Just watch out for the back, Rookie-kun <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulless Watcher Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Ohhhh all this talk about gaming addictions gets me all nostalgic for my highschool years. I have fond memories of my Dad screaming at me for getting a B on my report card. He would take the 360 and my computer power cord and lock it in the back trunk of his car and yell at me for the entire evening about how much of a failure I was, how I shouldn't have any trouble being a genius because I don't live in poverty like he did and how video games were rotting my brain, sometimes forcing me to do exercise or clean the house (during the yelling). Than the next morning he would apologize for being an asshat, give me back my electronic goodies and act like nothing happened for the rest of the week. Well, at least until something else triggered him again and the beautiful process happened all over again. Good times . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodai Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Confession: The undertale protagonist is kawaii af in all the fan content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funyarinpa Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Should not have gone to school today. Was feeling pissed as all hell (parents, myself, everything). And now I'll be forced to study 4 hours a day. Go, me. also, I'm aware that I took it too fucking far and failed to organize myself but that doesn't keep me from hitting the ceiling (mentally) when I just think that I have a limit imposed on my time. It pretty much saps away at my enjoyment of things when I'm dictated a time to stop said thing. Goodbye half the joy of gaming. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valmore Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 12 hours ago, Rooke said: *snip* Actually, I was kinda wanting to take this side, but I hate writing when I don't have everything in front of me. I'd have to assume that his home life is, in general, stable and fine, father is just caring and not abusive, that sort of thing. Being a parent myself, I have to be mindful of how much time my daughter spends on tv and devices. So I can definitely see the dad's side... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the Barber Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Confession: Since finishing college, I've literally never read anything which I thought would be "useful" for me professionally (books on programming languages or technology, business-oriented books, that sort thing). I've rarely picked up the occasional technology books, but never gotten more than a few pages in. However, because I have this presentation at SakuraCon next week, I hit up my older brother (who loves this sort of stuff) for recommendations on books about presentations (covering presentation structure, graphic design, and the actual act6 of presenting), and just finished reading both of the books he recommended to me. Apparently I'm pretty dedicated to making my presentation not suck. kingdomcome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutterz Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Confession: Whenever I see someone walking with their shoelaces untied I have a strong urge to step on them (the shoelaces, not the person). Mr Poltroon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitsPunchSamurai Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Confession: Whenever i see someone with their pants down and their boxers or shorts showing i go and think in my head "i must've looked so stupid back then." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord Rooke Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Valmore said: Actually, I was kinda wanting to take this side, but I hate writing when I don't have everything in front of me. I'd have to assume that his home life is, in general, stable and fine, father is just caring and not abusive, that sort of thing. Being a parent myself, I have to be mindful of how much time my daughter spends on tv and devices. So I can definitely see the dad's side... Also, you sorta have to be a bit of an ass to not sympathise and just say it, and I'm good at that 4 hours ago, Funyarinpa said: but that doesn't keep me from hitting the ceiling (mentally) when I just think that I have a limit imposed on my time. It pretty much saps away at my enjoyment of things when I'm dictated a time to stop said thing. Goodbye half the joy of gaming. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. Do you know what the best thing is about having time limits for gaming? Japanese 'save points' in RPGs. Because the ability to 'save anywhere' would be just too convenient for you. An hour in a dungeon and still no save point? Oh dear, oh dear, welp time's up, too bad about all that progress The Western system, which allows you to save almost fricken everywhere, is clearly superior especially when you're under time constraints. 1 hour ago, Fred the Barber said: Apparently I'm pretty dedicated to making my presentation not suck. Probably because if it does suck, there'll be plenty of people in the audience who will point and chuckle at you. The desire to not look bad in front of people can be a pretty good motivator :3 Best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutterz Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Rooke said: Probably because if it does suck, there'll be plenty of people in the audience who will point and chuckle at you. The desire to not look bad in front of people can be a pretty good motivator :3 Can confirm, am motivated not to be in front of people in order to avoid looking bad Mr Poltroon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 When you know what you're doing in front of people though, it can be pretty fun I was well known in HS for giving... extravagant presentations, like I was the guy you didn't want to go after 'cos it'd make yours look like shit :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalRen Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 Confession: I'm horn, what do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutterz Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Just now, OriginalRen said: Confession: I'm horn, what do? Blow yourself Kenshin_sama and Funyarinpa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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