SaintOfVoid

individual names do no matter to me. the world is divided into lolifags and hagfags, that´s what really matters.

isn´t it basically the same? like ks-goal or not, if the base game were to fail sales-wise there wouldn´t be any continuation either, probably, eg. mg´s habit of only doing fandiscs depending on sales. 

Howdy y'all, it's ya boi Arc back at it again with necroing projects thought to be dead long ago.
Have this: https://arcadeotic.wixsite.com/euphemictl/single-post/2018/11/04/OFFON
For those lazy enough to read it, here's some bulleting points:
The project's starting in early December due to school stuff (surpise!) The team has been changed, you can view it from the original post There will actually be quality passes this time, fantastic! We'll be using a format to work on this that ain't complete dogshit Still JP to ENG. That's all, have a good day and look forward to more porn from yours truly.
 

The Tiny Dungeon series worked pretty well as an episodic series.  On the other hand, it had two features going for it that most episodic games don't.
First, each game also stood alone (for the most part).  They had a complete storyline, and although focused on one character, there was still plenty of the other main characters.  This also meant a significant amount of content.
Second, each release was fast - just 6 months between them.  So there was no need to wait long between episodes.
 
Basically, if consumers feel the get their money's worth on each piece AND don't need to wait long, it works.  If the pieces aren't worth it, or take too long...

Hello, KONEKO our upcoming Comedy-romance ANIME visual novel: Tokyo Re:Connect, this is a Commercial game.
[Status Update (2/25/2019): DEMO Coming Soon]
Support us on Patreon for more contents and rewards (。･ω･｡)ﾉ♡

 
Game Information:
■ Game: Tokyo Re:Connect
■ Languages: English Subtitles / Voice Acting
■ Interface (GUI): English/Japanese
■ Genre: ADV, Anime, Cute, Comedy, Drama, Slice of life, High School Student, Romance [Boy x Girl]
■ CG: 40-45 CG (plans)
■ SD: 6 (plans)
■ Background: 15-20 BG (plans)
■ BGM: 15-20 tracks (plans)
■ 3 Heroine Girls > 3 Endings
■ Resolution: 1920 x 1080p (Full HD) / 16:9 - Up to 4K
■ Control: Keyboard, Mouse, Touch Screen, Xbox/PS4 Controller support.
■ Release date: Q1 2019
■ Platform: Steam (PC/MAC)/IOS/Android - All-Age/18+ Patch Later (Fan Service) - Commercial

Spring is the season of first meetings.
On the advice of his older sister, Touki transfers into Ainoshima Gakuen in the middle of the spring term.
His heart is full of expectation of a new life in the city of Tokyo – a vast contrast to the countryside that he grew up in.
As he begins to settle into his new life, he encounters fresh faces in the student council president, Ayumi, and an underclassman who admires her, Kuon. What Touki was not expecting was to converge paths with Saya, his childhood friend from a few years ago, who he hadn’t talked to since a certain incident.
To make matters more complicated, a mysterious transfer student arrives shortly after. She seems to loathe him immediately and Touki feels that he has met her somewhere before.
Within the chaos of the present and the mystery of the past that is chasing him, there is uncertainty in the air as he forges a path towards his future and his desire to connect with others.
■ SCREENSHOT:





■ FEATURE:
■ Total Play Time: 10-15 hours
■ Branching story arcs and multiple endings depending on your choices.
■ Unexpected and surprising plot points that will keep you reading until the very end.
■ Unique characters.
■ High-quality artwork.
■ CG Gallery | Music Gallery
Progress:
■ Outlines: Rough Draft ~40%
■ Script: 25%
■ Character Designs : 100% DONE
■ CG Artwork: ~20%
■ Backgrounds: 70%
■ GUI Coding: 40%
■ Script Coding: 15%
■ GUI: 100% DONE
■ Music BGM: 55%
■ Voice Acting : 0%
■ Risks and challenges:
Although there’s always a chance that the game’s release might be delayed, the completion of Tokyo Re:Connect is extremely likely at this point.
Even if you can't support us, you could contribute by helping us spread the word! It's very important for more people to know about our game. You could make Fanarts or do let's plays, or tell your favorite Youtuber/Twitch Streamer/Press/Media about us!
While we cannot promise a smooth sailing development period moving forward, what we can promise is that we’ll be as transparent as possible regarding the setbacks that we’re facing, and what our plans of actions are towards resolving them.
We’re not new to game development, so we’re more than ready and equipped to overcome the various challenges we’ve yet to face. We hope we’ve garnered enough credibility, trust, and goodwill in the past to prove to everyone that we always keep our promises to the best of our abilities.
Thank you so much for considering to support KONEKO. Have a good day!
KONEKO
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Hello, KONEKO our upcoming Comedy-romance ANIME visual novel: Tokyo Re:Connect, this is a Commercial game.
[Status Update (4/16/2024): Fix BUG]
Support us on Patreon for more contents and rewards (。･ω･｡)ﾉ♡

 
Game Information:
■ Game: Tokyo Re:Connect
■ Languages: English Subtitles / Voice Acting
■ Interface (GUI): English/Japanese
■ Genre: ADV, Anime, Cute, Comedy, Drama, Slice of life, High School Student, Romance [Boy x Girl]
■ 3 Heroine Girls > 3 Endings
■ Resolution: 1920 x 1080p (Full HD) / 16:9 - Up to 4K
■ Control: Keyboard, Mouse, Touch Screen, Xbox/PS4 Controller support.
■ Release date: Q1 2019
■ Platform: Steam (PC/MAC)/IOS/Android - All-Age
■ SCREENSHOT:




■ FEATURE:
■ Total Play Time: 10-15 hours
■ Branching story arcs and multiple endings depending on your choices.
■ Unexpected and surprising plot points that will keep you reading until the very end.
■ Unique characters.
■ High-quality artwork.
■ CG Gallery | Music Gallery
Even if you can't support us, you could contribute by helping us spread the word! It's very important for more people to know about our game. You could make Fanarts or do let's plays, or tell your favorite Youtuber/Twitch Streamer/Press/Media about us!
We’re not new to game development, so we’re more than ready and equipped to overcome the various challenges we’ve yet to face. We hope we’ve garnered enough credibility, trust, and goodwill in the past to prove to everyone that we always keep our promises to the best of our abilities.
Thank you so much for considering to support KONEKO. Have a good day!
KONEKO
Patreon | Twitter | Facebook | Discord

I've been watching their panel. While they didn't say anything specific, they said they always try to get the most uncensored version they can. They explain to the Japanese side that mosaics do affect sales. They mentioned that no major localiser wants to have their releases with mosaics, but it all comes down to negotiation. Sometimes the Japanese side doesn't have the originals (happens a lot with older games), and sometimes the Japanese side is scared of the legal ramifications.
"On their side they have legal concerns, and we respect their wishes."
"If we have to."

As someone who loves physical editions I am quite glad that in their Q&A they said they plan to have a focus on physical copies.

i love how large parts of the VN fandom generally shits itself with rage any time a company comes in to legally release a a desired VN. 

yep that´s what i meant. 2nd tweet is easily being overlooked.
btw feels somewhat bad for chuees gang, first working on irosekai, then told by sekai to do hoshimemo (probably so they could do irosekai afterwards), shit happened, them founded nekonyan and still been hoping of doing irosekai, yet another shit happened...

COMIC SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANS!

this basically stems from companies no hiring real professionals. granted there´s some editors around gifted with good skills, having previously worked in journalism or whatnot, but let´s be honest most aren´t. an a-grade amateurs work is 99% going to be inferior to his/hers b-grade professional pendant

for fantranslations option 6-7 should be plenty (unless people wanting to sell it), but seriously now anything other than point 9 shouldn´t be acceptable to no one sane coming to professional works, heck since whatever company decides on making money with title xy, it´s automatically every customers right to only expect the very best. period.
also as a paying individual i couldn´t care less about any potentially horrendous work expenses, no being profitable any more, or whatever complaint there is when them trying to max out its quality. if no having the means of doing things right, it´s from my point better no getting started at all.
in all honesty if 3 or more passes of edits are neccessary, then it´s everyones right to expect it being done, such is the way of professionalism. no whiny blabla like in leylines or chrono clocks case about it no earning them enough money to warrant such things. personally i´m somewhat content with patches for technical reasons, but having to do so even once when wanting to enjoy a good read simply gets me raging...

My unbiased opinion is that KoiKuma has fantastic fap material, but Sanoba Witch's isn't half bad either. If you want anything else from the game, then get Sanoba because KoiKuma is literally just a nukige whereas Sanoba is a full-fledged moege.
My biased opinion is Sanoba Witch 10,000%. Buy copies for all your friends too.

Translation
Prologue - 100% (1791/1791)
Main School - 100% (2691/2691)
Tonoko Route - 100% (8709/8709)
Branch School - 35% (2039/5846)
Total - 22% (15229/68206)
TLC
Prologue - 100% (1791/1791)
Main School - 6% (157/2691)
Branch School - 3% (187/5846)
Total - 3% (2135/68206)
Edit
Prologue - 100% (1791/1791)
Main School - 6% (157/2691)
Branch School - 25% (1441/5846)
Total - 5% (3360/68206)
Ittaku has fully translated Tonoko's route. He'll be moving onto Miyabi's soon enough, but he can relish in this great achievement right now. Branch School in terms of both TL and Editing is going strong as well.
We are still looking for a permanent TLC to work on this project. Please PM me if you're interested in working as a TLC for this project.
That's all for this week. See you in another couple of weeks.

Well, one thing's for sure - at least it gives this almost dead forum a topic it can discuss fervently that is actually even relevant to the forum... This discussion should be a sticky that people post to each and every day. I notice everyone says exactly the same things in slightly different ways, over and over. Rinse and repeat. My turn.
If quality of final product ranged from 0 to 10, where 0 was completely incomprehensible machine translation along with bugs introduced into the game, scenes butchered, crashing, and 10 was absolute perfect translation and editing of high literary standard which is indistinguishable from the original Japanese, along with all menus translated, songs karaoked, CGs uncensored etc. then it would be fair to say that almost nothing is a 0 or a 10. Let's call a 5 a passing mark where the original story is conveyed with reasonable accuracy and with some typos and editing oversights. So what we get is a range somewhere in the middle and fan translations can fall anywhere in that spectrum, but so can professional releases. Making an incredible generalisation, fan translations are more likely to end up lower on that scale than official localisations, though anything's possible. So what it comes down to is - what is the cut off that you'd be happy with reading? Everyone would accept a 10 (though some of you still want your mosaics) and no one would accept a 0. Some people would be happy with a 3 or 4 while others with nothing less than a 7 or 8. This means that the most flexible amongst us wouldn't mind more fan translations while the more stringent amongst us won't be happy even with half the official localisations. The complaint is that some of those that only accept an 8 get angry when someone releases a 3 because they do a disservice... to whom? The game? The writers? The localisation companies? The readers? It's not a pirating issue, as those who pirate the JP version (to patch it) will likely pirate the EN version too, so the original makers won't be getting anything either way. A shit release doesn't stop a good release from being made later on. If anything, it's a good fan release that makes an official localisation less likely (unless it gets picked up.)
The question then is should fan translators be encouraged or discouraged if they end up in the 3 or 4 range? Is it helpful or harmful to the community to have these? Do fan translators use this as a stepping stone towards getting better and/or a paid job or try to get their translation picked up, and is this healthy or not for the VN scene? I think the fan translation scene is an essential part of the past, present, and future of VNs until the day we get simultaneous multi-language releases of VNs the way anime does - and that's actually far less likely to happen due to the sheer volume of VN releases and the turnaround time to translate them, unlike anime. Arguing for the giving and receiving of constructive criticism is great, however there are precious few people who can and will mentor fan translations (as others have pointed out.) The only way to make the fan translation scene healthier is to tackle less projects and have more translators and other staff helping each other. That's not going to happen since there are so few translators and so many things they may personally want to work on, so we continue with the status quo. By the way, does anyone want to help with our translation?

Being a part of a fan-tl, I can tell you first hand what I have an issue with. I have no experience working in a VN company, so I cannot speak for them. 
To be honest, I welcome any criticism to our project. The problem is when people shit on your work and then going and say "well it's your work" and then proceed to tell you to work on English/Japanese. That effectively stalls a project for months and months, which is why you're seeing a lot of fan-tls stall. Unlike when fan-tls first time into play, criticism is much more prevalent because of a "set" of rules and expectations set by the industry and the individuals that work within it. So now do you not only have less fan-tls because of them being merged into companies, you have people becoming demoralized and trying to learn a language, which that in itself isn't bad.
When you drill into somebody new that it needs to be "perfect", that's when problems come up. It can be very overwhelming to new people, causing them to write mistake after mistake or slow/stall their TLs/edits to a crawl in fear of looking bad. Logically, it's better to come back to it later when you know the language better to "save face", but people have lives and what might have been a completed TL with some mistakes is now an indefinitely stalled TL. I feel it would only be fair to have the same standards that were set in place when fan-TLs first started. Currently, the only people that are learning are those that have already learned from the mistakes years ago before people became more critical of people's work. New TLs/editors are actively being discouraged because of the hypocrisy that the community in general is showing. Expecting a good tl and then telling them to learn it themselves is a horrible message to give off, especially if most of the people in current projects learned by doing, rather than researching.
In all honesty, *WE* are the reason fan TLs are dying. There's a major experience gap between people who have done this for years and those that are just starting out and people aren't willing to personally mentor or become more active in current projects to share what they've learned from the mistakes they've made in the past and instead say they're shit, writing stuff in Japanese to make fun of them so people who are just starting out can't read it and only a joke that "experienced" people would get or just putting people down, saying that they'll help them if they "get better" (which makes no sense and goes back to the perfection piece I mentioned earlier).

Now, it isn't entirely the companies and community's fault either. There's also those people with low self esteem who take constructive criticism as shit talking. NOBODY would spend an hour on a post unless they either hated somebody or genuinely want to help, regardless of why they would. Those that can't take constructive criticism have to accept that it's part of learning and if there's any help and knowledge to be gained. If anything will speed up learning more than looking at books, it's constructive criticism on your own work. Doesn't mean you have to go re-writing and re-translating the entire script or that it has to be perfect. That takes months and months and can kill projects. Yes, this makes it imperfect and puts the quality lower than an official TL. Here's the thing: does it still read well and get the meaning and characterization across? If so, you've done your job. People who know Japanese and English are the toughest critics, and it's understandable. But there's a fine line being being helpful and demoralizing the team.
I've seen so much destructive criticism from outside our project not for translation errors, but because they prefer literal over liberal, or something that's related more to preference. I trust my TL to do what he needs to do, and that could be why our project is still alive. He's come back after 2 years and is re-TLing it and he's actually pretty good with idioms and English. I encourage him to write liberally as I correct him or use more appropriate words. It's pretty interesting tbh how far we've come since our starting point two years ago. Some people like it more, some people like it less. But there's no doubt in my mind he's gotten better, and I also feel that I can match his expectations as the editor. If other people feel differently, then that's understandable. But that's life, and if people want to help, I'll listen. If people don't, then there's no point in listening. It's why I'm usually not demoralized, yet continue to learn what I need to for the team.
Also, it's a bit idiotic to use destructive criticism on a TL. Giving resources to help get better doesn't count as constructive either because of how overwhelming it can be learning English from textbooks, as well as some people learn more by doing rather than researching and studying. You lose TLs that way, and that's one of the ways projects can die.Take some time away from what you're doing and help out. They'll probably make the same mistakes over and over again, but that's learning and expecting people to pick up what others are saying right off the bat is ridiculous and unfair. 
Therefore, it's everyone's fault. Sure, there's some blame that should be placed more on others, but people also have to be able to take criticism, since there's people out there with patience who *are* actively trying to help and are pushed aside due to fear of destructive criticism from them. Some people are also truly stubborn and just don't want help, which can't really be helped by anyone. You gotta accept help in order to be helped, after all. It's just a big mess in general and there's so many ways you can look at it. My opinion is very unpopular though among certain individuals, but I consider it the reality we live in. There's so many other things I can say about this topic, but I'll save it for another day

it doesn't need to be perfect. It just needs to not be terrible if anything. People here needs a serious reality check with this literature phd requirement to translate a vn. Especially if it's a fan tl group who spends their free time translating because they enjoy it and doing you a serious favour in the process. You will get a handful of people whining about a sentence being written a bit differently than how it actually is in Japanese or complain about some typos here and there, but then you have the silent masses who enjoy the translation and is overjoyed that they can finally read a vn that will 99% sure never see an official translation. And who's to say an official translation would be any better? I see plenty wrong with super delayed official releases. Mistakes so obvious that it makes me not believe all those checks and rechecks actually took place. But for a fan tl it doesn't bother me one bit as i appreciate the time and work being done.

BIMAN IS OUT, GO GET IT:
https://arcadeotic.wixsite.com/euphemictl/single-post/2018/10/09/Bishoujo-Mangekyou-A-Girls-Cursed-Legend
 
Praise Kirie.

That might be because the teenagers in this game speak and act like dumb teenagers

I may have agreed with your sentiment a few years ago, but these days we have official translations, and  to be honest I d rather NOT have a translation than a bad one. Case in point the friggin Joke that is the White Album 2 "translation" that mess started 6 years ago bout 5 days after I made my vndb account and its a disaster! I am not so desperate for Visual novels to read that I m willing to stomach whatever shit show thrown my way and neither should anyone else.(mind you i've completed over 160 vns with no end in sight)

main reason why libra deserves a good bashing does no only stem from its subpar quality, which they´re having fixed route by route, its more mikandi´s attitude towards the whole thing. like first promising backers/customers a very good translation and after everyone + their mothers knew they´ve got scammed fukking hard still defending the scammers work. is it really so damn difficult to openly say "hey we fucked up, cause we got fucked up, because we´re naive retards. sorry everyone"? still calling sth that´s utterly unreadable for the most parts a good read is laughable at best and at worst it´s disrespectful to those who eagerly awaited said title´s release.

edit: @Happiness+ please no more pointless mumbo-jumbo about saying bad translations are better than no translation at all, cause that´s completely shit. a bad translation is labeled bad for a reason, not only because its prose might no be winning nobel prizes and/or lacks emotions. inaccuracy is a thing and getting to read nothing but fanfiction does contradict with you saying "...but there’s so many kamiges out there that will remain untranslated." 

And here I was actually hoping for a family friendly version of Cocoro@Function. 

The part of the tweet you can see bellow is SFW but the tweet itself does have some NSFW images.  
This tweet makes me a bit worried that we might see many more titles getting machine translated in the future.
It seems like there currently aren't enough official translators to handle translations when japanese companies want to release in english. So if they have no other option and is in need of money they might simply end up figuring that something like Sakuragame is the best. This makes me wonder if Cabbit went to Sakuragame first or if they ended up getting rejected by companies like MG, SP and Jast first and then went to Sakuragame. Also I am not sure the ideal solution is just to try to get more translators. I think there is already somewhat of a problem with too many titles being released compared to the people who buy VNs which is something that makes it so that the different companies have problems turning a profit. It might be that there is just a way larger demand by companies and english VN fans for localization than can be sustained by the current size of the market.
Well for the perticular case it seems to possibly solve itself 
The part of the tweet you can see bellow is SFW but the tweet itself does have some NSFW images.
 
However considering that the elf VN is really popular I doubt that it always resolve itself this way.