are there vn elitists and hipsters in japan?

[ホアー ビち]

i kno english vn fanbase is too small to have a substantial population of elitists and hipsters, but what about japan? if they exist in japan, what are the vns liked by the elitists and hipsters?

[Arcadeotic]

I'd say there are the ones who like moeges and ones who like good stories

So I guess the answer is yes

[ホアー ビち]

On 3/4/2016 at 2:57 PM, Arcadeotic said:

I'd say there are the ones who like moeges and ones who like good stories

So I guess the answer is yes

implying moeges cant have good stories. 

arent most moeges pretty mainstream for VNs? neither elitists nor hipsters like mainstream.

[Arcadeotic]

1 minute ago, ロル ビち said:

implying moeges cant have good stories. 

arent most moeges pretty mainstream for VNs? neither elitists nor hipsters like mainstream.

I mean, there always is conficts, it was just a bad example

I'm sure there are those niche titles and glorified ones, even more in Japanese than English

So I think that hipster/elitist thing shows more in Japanese VN community more than in English one

[sanahtlig]

I think Clephas and others have complained that discussion of VNs in the Japanese Internet community is much less lively.  There's no Japanese Fuwanovel, essentially, so much of the "discussion" happens in the comments of wikis and on 2chan.  Do a search on the Japanese title of a game, any game, and you'll see what I mean.  Any discussion is often in English.

[XReaper]

sometimes creeping around sumisora, or turning anon in 2chan. as for jp-hipsters....>< dont even ask about their preferences, please not

[CeruleanGamer]

Filthy casuals.  

We should teach the Japanese how to be true fans of Visual novels.

[OriginalRen]

As someone who has lived in Japan and went to Akihabara release dates every month while standing in line with a bunch of other PC game fanatics, no, there aren't any elitists. Most people mind their own business and come to buy what they need to buy.

[sanahtlig]

12 minutes ago, XReaper said:

sometimes creeping around sumisora, or turning anon in 2chan. as for jp-hipsters....>< dont even ask about their preferences, please not

Sumisora appears to be a Chinese BBS.

[ホアー ビち]

On 3/4/2016 at 3:35 PM, OriginalRen said:

As someone who has lived in Japan and went to Akihabara release dates every month while standing in line with a bunch of other PC game fanatics, no, there aren't any elitists. Most people mind their own business and come to buy what they need to buy.

what about the hipsters?

[OriginalRen]

When I think of hipsters, I think of young female teenagers wearing leggings as pants with a pair of Ugg boots and a sweater, while texting on their iPhone and holding a cup of some mixed drink from Starbucks. Sunglasses are optional. If that's the case, then no, there are no hipsters in Japan.

[VirginSmasher]

6 minutes ago, OriginalRen said:

As someone who has lived in Japan and went to Akihabara release dates every month while standing in line with a bunch of other PC game fanatics, no, there aren't any elitists. Most people mind their own business and come to buy what they need to buy.

So they're better than us because constantly argue and force our opinions onto others. Sounds pretty boring to be a fan of VNs in Japan if there is no big discussions about the newest moege and how Sca-Ji is overrated and other VN related topics.

[OriginalRen]

1 minute ago, VirginSmasher said:

So they're better than us because constantly argue and force our opinions onto others. Sounds pretty boring to be a fan of VNs in Japan if there is no big discussions about the newest moege and how Sca-Ji is overrated and other VN related topics.

They discuss it, but like visual novel/anime fans, the real world is too much for them to discuss their hobby. Why talk in real life when you can hide behind a fake internet persona?

[solidbatman]

3 minutes ago, OriginalRen said:

When I think of hipsters, I think of young female teenagers wearing leggings as pants with a pair of Ugg boots and a sweater, while texting on their iPhone and holding a cup of some mixed drink from Starbucks. Sunglasses are optional. If that's the case, then no, there are no hipsters in Japan.

shit... thats me minus the leggings

[VirginSmasher]

2 minutes ago, OriginalRen said:

They discuss it, but like visual novel/anime fans, the real world is too much for them to discuss their hobby. Why talk in real life when you can hide behind a fake internet persona?

That is true. I imagine most of us, myself not included, don't discuss our VN hobby until we are in these forums.

[DarkZedge]

I'm pretty sure that there are elitists like in any other group of fans or followers of something..be it a game or Vn or Anime or anything really...there will always be those who try to leave out the new people or amateur-ish people who may not have as much knowledge as them and live within their own little "elite" world..granted not all elitists are like that but most are anyways

[XReaper]

23 minutes ago, sanahtlig said:

Sumisora appears to be a Chinese BBS.

mostly yes, but some artices/reviews/whatoever are mixed language, depending on its subjects overall popularity

[ホアー ビち]

On 3/4/2016 at 3:11 PM, sanahtlig said:

I think Clephas and others have complained that discussion of VNs in the Japanese Internet community is much less lively.  There's no Japanese Fuwanovel, essentially, so much of the "discussion" happens in the comments of wikis and on 2chan.  Do a search on the Japanese title of a game, any game, and you'll see what I mean.  Any discussion is often in English.

then why doesnt any web designer erogamer just create 1 japanese fuwa? 

[madvanced]

45 minutes ago, solidbatman said:

shit... thats me minus the leggings

So what I can extrapolate from this is that batman wears Uggs. The more you know.

[EdwardWongHPTIV]

This thread has ruined my perceptions... forever. What about all the depictions of impassioned fans of VNs in manga? That wasn't real life?!!?

*Gaaaaasp*

Oh, noooooooo.

Hmmm. I'm hungry. *walks off*

[Dergonu]

1 hour ago, CeruleanGamer said:

Filthy casuals.  

We should teach the Japanese how to be true fans of Visual novels.

Amen

[Chronopolis]

2 hours ago, sanahtlig said:

I think Clephas and others have complained that discussion of VNs in the Japanese Internet community is much less lively.  There's no Japanese Fuwanovel, essentially, so much of the "discussion" happens in the comments of wikis and on 2chan.  Do a search on the Japanese title of a game, any game, and you'll see what I mean.  Any discussion is often in English.

You get more review sites of course, some live play videos (実況) with entertaining commentary, twitter, but yea there's not that much discussion.

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[ホアー ビち]

On 3/4/2016 at 3:41 PM, OriginalRen said:

When I think of hipsters, I think of young female teenagers wearing leggings as pants with a pair of Ugg boots and a sweater, while texting on their iPhone and holding a cup of some mixed drink from Starbucks. Sunglasses are optional. If that's the case, then no, there are no hipsters in Japan.

hipsters i mean those who like old obscure stuff not many people know about and dislike mainstream and popular stuff.

[Kawasumi]

14 minutes ago, ロル ビち said:

hipsters i mean those who like old obscure stuff not many people know about and dislike mainstream and popular stuff.

oh you mean @Deep Blue?  

[XReaper]

8 minutes ago, ロル ビち said:

hipsters i mean those who like old obscure stuff not many people know about and dislike mainstream and popular stuff.

b-but those are whom i personally consider beeing true fans - not giving in to escapism, leading a life thats fully devoted to their main heroines only & aggressively fighting/rallying against "la generica magna"