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TexasDice

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  1. Musings: all the school routes have some structural overlaps with one another due to the time-frame of the events and I like that all of them play out differently and partially happen in entirely different locations based on who you are dating. 

    Spoiler

    The scenes that immediately come to mind are catching fish at the sea, studying for the exams, the night of the hurricane, the school festival and the tanabata festival.

    After reading all the routes most of you will most likely have some favorites on how these play out. I for example like Rikka's fish catching, Touko's hurricane and Sora's school festival and Natsuki's tanabata scenes the most. 

     


  2. 12 hours ago, phantomJS said:

    Curious, how did you measure the game time? I don't think there's a setting or trigger in the menus or something for it right?

    Nothing elaborate, I just check my watch before and after I read. 

    14 hours ago, Swim Swim said:

    How much filler was in there? Or worse drawn out melodrama...

    The entire VN is basically filler, that's kind of the premise of HoshiOri. It's a genuine SoL, without the usual "lets throw an hour long misunderstanding in there". Rikka's route has one drama thing happening, which the script builds up to in advance and after it's resolved (doesn't take that long, our protag is pretty competent for once), that was it. 


  3. A popular strategy is to just go for the girl that shows interest in the protagonist the earliest (I c... I mean scientists call it the low hanging fruit solution).

    Me, I'm a wild card. I just go for whatever and usually end up with a route I don't care about in my backlog because I couldn't restrain myself from saving my favorite for last.


  4. 2 hours ago, Seraphim88 said:

    Damn, that's long. It's at least 5-10 hours more than any heroine route I've ever read. Did it get boring? I imagine there must be quite a bit of filler content in a route that long.

    Somehow, I did not actually get bored. There was the point at the 8 hour mark when I looked at the clock saying out loud "wait, they're still not a couple?" but aside from that I kind of just ate that route in one go excluding sleep and food breaks on a weekend. Being invested in Rikka most likely helped, I love her.

    HoshiOri is a baffling VN, as I couldn't believe how invested I was in a story about what amounts to nothing. After spending all this mundane time with her, I felt as if I was actually married to Rikka. This VN sincerely makes me reconsider ever thinking "this melodrama is dumb, but you have to have something going on in your plot right?" about other moege. 


  5. I could probably teach a class on Chiho's route. :wahaha:

    refer to this post. It's kind of a mess. 

    On 2.1.2019 at 2:51 PM, TexasDice said:

    Don't worry, Barney is I am here to save you, by explaining how Pepe Silvia Chiho works

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    Summary of the route's events:

    1. Chiho gets bear from mom
    2. Chiho loses Bear
    3. protag finds bear and brings it to the police
    4. Chiho gets back bear from Police
    5. Chiho wants to find protag at school, but doesn't talk to him (in love I guess)
    6. Chiho stalks protag to work, but is too shy to enter
    7. Chiho stalks protag again with her mom and sits in way to watch the kitchen
    8. Chiho and mom go home, Chiho loses bear on the intersection
    9. Mother attempts to pick up the bear, but gets kissed by a truck (which is what QP shows protag as a dream)
    10. Chiho has amnesia now and loses the bear again
    11. protag finds the bear again brings it to da police one more time
    12. Protag meets Chiho *CUE COMMON ROUTE*
    13. They get together *CUE ROMANCE*
    14. Chiho remembers a bunch of shit (half of which isn't true in the end)
    15. Chiho retraces her steps back to the police, gets the bear back
    16. Chiho almost gets hit by a car but the protag saves her
    17. The protag now has amnesia and Chiho's amnesia is gone, but she has amnesia to all things she learned during the initial amnesia
    18. protag goes through some more stuff and realizes it's a dream
    19. protag wakes up from amnesia
    20. protag and Chiho meet each other and she remembers what happened during her amnesia because of the automated phone message
    21. Chiho explains the route in the epilogue via a giant exposition dump
    22. Chiho's mom is alive, she was just in a come before
    23. Chiho and protag confess once again, the END

    So, what happened and what didn't?

    This didn't happen:
    Everything protag assumed happened at the age 5 or 6
    Chiho and protag going out to wcdonalds and Naturale (she did that with her mom)
    the rooftop H-scene
    The phone not working and Chiho not remembering Protag
    Protag saving Chiho's mom (QP's dream)

    This did happen:
    The bear gets lost, found, lost again
    mom kisses a car
    Chiho had a crush prior to protag knowing her
    Protag hits a car
    Everything else

    zs9eE2G.jpg

    As we see here, it's not that complicated of a story. The execution of it all is just pointlessly confusing. Everything happening between step 14 to 18 happens in a span of 20 minutes and Chiho's epilogue is basically just her attempting to tell you what happened in 15 minutes of straight expository dialog.

     


  6. I'm on the complete opposite end; I hate the "realistic" (can't fit enough quotation marks around that word, so I wont even try) first time scenes, where the guy busts before putting it in, the scene has to stop in the middle and/or the everpresent painful hymen breaks. The main attraction of fiction is escapism, so why would I want to escape into incompetent fucking? 

    Same reason why I don't want to see condoms. I have to deal with this sense-numbing garbage IRL already, because out here pregnancy and disease are actually a problem. So keep that stuff the fuck away from my fantasies at least.

    @the original topic: Drawing a good H-CG is hard, considering you have to see the important parts without obscuring the POV of the camera. Everyone hates floating dicks, so sometimes the art requires a dumb and uncomfortable sex position to show everything off or to simply have more variety. If we go by an average 3-scenes-per route, 4 main characters basis, drawing the same 2 or 3 positions 3 or 4 times would get both boring to draw and to look at pretty quick.

    On 25.2.2019 at 5:41 PM, AustriaVNFan said:
    • I also feel sorry for unexperienced teens reading this in every eroge VN and expecting this to be the truth about sex. Must be quite frightening.

    That applies to porn in general and is the reason why it's 18+. 


  7. Something I've wondered about after finishing Edelweiss a while ago and at last sinking some time into HoshiOri. What does the public think?

    For me personally, I think nothing good can come out of padding out a script without much substance or cutting down a master piece that still has stories left to tell. From a business standpoint, it obviously does make sense though. Imagine grabbing a title for a particular girl on the cover and find out she gets "shafted" on content. 

    Bonus poll added, because it's related to the running time imo. 

    PS: Responding "Depends on the title" is not allowed.


  8. Texas Dice quick-cuts: 3 Problems with Natsume's route

    Spoiler

    1. The political stuff is needlessly convoluted for such a simple script. You have faction A, faction B and the city being faction C in middle. All that is fine, but then we also have faction A rebels and faction B extremist traitors, both of which doing things the other As, Bs and Cs aren't aware of? Who belongs to whom? Am I playing Modern Warfare 2?

    2. Unfired chekhov's guns in the form of the hand sign (which I expected to fire when their phone call got jammed?) and the Major character. 

    3. The story had a great and concise ending... At the 80% mark. After which a bunch of stuff happens that could've been cut. Who wrote this, Tarantino? 

    No deal-breakers by any means, just three things that are there. 


  9. I would be interested to learn how much of an imprint popular genre-shifts in media have/had on visual novels in particular.

    What I mean is stuff like the Skyrim craze, which actively contributed everything western-fantasy-like in Japan to sell better (Fire Emblem sales) and even got them to make their own skyrim games, like Dragons Dogma. 

    Those things in the context of VNs would interest me.


  10. On 29.12.2018 at 7:15 PM, neverending0 said:

    Other than that: 

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    I was pretty confused about Chiho's route since I had no idea which part was a dream and which wasn't. Entire story didn't make sense to me in general ...

     

    Don't worry, Barney is I am here to save you, by explaining how Pepe Silvia Chiho works

    Spoiler

    Summary of the route's events:

    1. Chiho gets bear from mom
    2. Chiho loses Bear
    3. protag finds bear and brings it to the police
    4. Chiho gets back bear from Police
    5. Chiho wants to find protag at school, but doesn't talk to him (in love I guess)
    6. Chiho stalks protag to work, but is too shy to enter
    7. Chiho stalks protag again with her mom and sits in way to watch the kitchen
    8. Chiho and mom go home, Chiho loses bear on the intersection
    9. Mother attempts to pick up the bear, but gets kissed by a truck (which is what QP shows protag as a dream)
    10. Chiho has amnesia now and loses the bear again
    11. protag finds the bear again brings it to da police one more time
    12. Protag meets Chiho *CUE COMMON ROUTE*
    13. They get together *CUE ROMANCE*
    14. Chiho remembers a bunch of shit (half of which isn't true in the end)
    15. Chiho retraces her steps back to the police, gets the bear back
    16. Chiho almost gets hit by a car but the protag saves her
    17. The protag now has amnesia and Chiho's amnesia is gone, but she has amnesia to all things she learned during the initial amnesia
    18. protag goes through some more stuff and realizes it's a dream
    19. protag wakes up from amnesia
    20. protag and Chiho meet each other and she remembers what happened during her amnesia because of the automated phone message
    21. Chiho explains the route in the epilogue via a giant exposition dump
    22. Chiho's mom is alive, she was just in a come before
    23. Chiho and protag confess once again, the END

    So, what happened and what didn't?

    This didn't happen:
    Everything protag assumed happened at the age 5 or 6
    Chiho and protag going out to wcdonalds and Naturale (she did that with her mom)
    the rooftop H-scene
    The phone not working and Chiho not remembering Protag
    Protag saving Chiho's mom (QP's dream)

    This did happen:
    The bear gets lost, found, lost again
    mom kisses a car
    Chiho had a crush prior to protag knowing her
    Protag hits a car
    Everything else

    zs9eE2G.jpg

    As we see here, it's not that complicated of a story. The execution of it all is just pointlessly confusing. Everything happening between step 14 to 18 happens in a span of 20 minutes and Chiho's epilogue is basically just her attempting to tell you what happened in 15 minutes of straight expository dialog.

    I don't think would've been a bad story if someone ironed out those clunky parts in a second draft, but the real issue with Chiho is that both she and her route feel really out of place. The tone, content and character has nothing to do with anything else that is happening in Sukisuki. (Even QP fucks off for almost the entire thing, although they did adress that.)


  11. I use escapism to nurture my crippled mental state, so I obviously get really deep into those feelings. On the condition that the writing, atmosphere and/or characters made me care enough. 

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