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I like the idea of wincest in a VN, (like others, I tend to prefer the "safe" zone of two siblings close to the same age and not too young) aka Yosuga no sora (or to a much less obvious extent, Kanon (cousins) ).

 

Not just for the obvious kink of it (there is that appeal, sure) - but I like it when/if they explore the social and moral dillemma involved in such a relationship. Making it the main route/focus would make for a great read imo. To see if/how the two overcome the stigma and the world's resentment. Can they find happiness and say "screw what others think."? Or will they walk separate paths, realizing it's too hard a journey?

 

That's why I am so disappointed with a lot of VNs that have the incest tag, they just treat it like fluff and take it for granted. Everyone is happy-go-lucky with no repercussions or concerns. =/ Mind you, those ones tend to exist solely for the sake of porn and not much else, heh...

I only say "not the main focus" because I've only ever really seen nukiges focus on incest and incestuous relationships.  Added Yosuga no Sora to my list of VNs to wait for translation because it's not a nukige ^_^

 

Agreed, it seems to be generally used to tickle the fancy in h-scenes, and not in terms of actual plot.  *coughcough Hoshimemo cough cough*

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I only say "not the main focus" because I've only ever really seen nukiges focus on incest and incestuous relationships.  Added Yosuga no Sora to my list of VNs to wait for translation because it's not a nukige ^_^

 

Agreed, it seems to be generally used to tickle the fancy in h-scenes, and not in terms of actual plot.  *coughcough Hoshimemo cough cough*

 

Sigh... it really could've been something, but nope~ Too bad too, she (Chinami) kinda grew on me until I realized it wasn't going anywhere interesting.

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So I finished reading Oreimo Tsuzuku Disc 1 about a week ago and just finished watching Koi Kaze. As such, I would like to ask you if you like to watch/read/play things if they have controversial or taboo themes and if just because something has them, you will watch it.

 

 

I enjoy an entertaining story that's well told, I don't hunt themes.

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Sigh... it really could've been something, but nope~ Too bad too, she (Chinami) kinda grew on me until I realized it wasn't going anywhere interesting.

 

I think it could've gone deeper into Chinami's mind, such as for example,

exploring her grief due to her father's death a bit more and how You was her support. Still, the best part of the route was the information it gave regarding other characters and the VN's world. Also, Shino's reaction to Chinami being pregnant... while it was good that she accepted their relationship, it was 

so unrealistically light hearted...

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I think it could've gone deeper into Chinami's mind, such as for example,

exploring her grief due to her father's death a bit more and how You was her support. Still, the best part of the route was the information it gave regarding other characters and the VN's world. Also, Shino's reaction to Chinami being pregnant... while it was good that she accepted their relationship, it was 

so unrealistically light hearted...

 

but dont you know? every thing turns out well if you have love. <3

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Nanase Souichirou approves. Because we all know (Imouto Paradise spoilers)

that if you have a child with your 5 imoutos, all children will be healthy because due to love, inbreeding forgot it exists!

It only increases the CHANCE, not 100% guarantee that there will be problem.

Let just say that the MC is extremely lucky <_<

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Yes, yes, I've seen enough bloody wars regarding incest and inbreeding o /a/ and VNDB forums to not know that. :P 

Still, it's quite hilarious how the world works in Nukiges.

 

That's only if you stay on the light side of nukiges, the dark side is just plain depressing, even for a sociopath like me.

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Nanase Souichirou approves. Because we all know (Imouto Paradise spoilers)

that if you have a child with your 5 imoutos, all children will be healthy because due to love, inbreeding forgot it exists!

I've read somewhere that single-generation inbreeding has a pretty low chance of causing problems, as opposed to when it happens for 2+ generations. Dunno how accurate that is, though.

 

As for my answer to the question in the topic, sure, to some extent. Not a huge fan of age-difference incest, rape, and excessive gore, though.

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I can pretty much tolerate any and all kinds of things a story throws in my face, but if I like it or not depends on how the theme is used. If I see rape or wincest done just to turn people on, for example, I just consider it pretty normal, especially in a VN, but if it's done right rape can lead to glorious mental breakdowns, and wincest to heart-rending moments of "this-love-is-impossible-but-we-do-not-care", much to my delight. Bonus points if whatever theme it is gives me a good ol' shock.

The exception to the above is gore and cannibalism. I enjoy them even solely for the lulz, and if they are done with care, love, and a pinch "let's screw the reader" it can lead to truly unforgettable moments such as (be careful, spoilers ahead for Muv-Luv and Saya no Uta!)

CHOMP from Muv-Luv Alternative

or the

Fuck they're eating Oumi from Saya no Uta

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I'm generally pretty whitebread, although I find brother x sister incest kind of appealing as long as it's not the focus of the VN and as long as they're both around the same age and not too young.  Any other types of incest makes me extremely uncomfortable.  That's about it, though.

 

That more or less covers it for me as well. To be precise, in case I'm misreading Zeno (I hadn't seen the term "whitebread" before...): I tend to avoid controversial and taboo themes, though there is something moderately appealing about that one exception case. I couldn't really say why. However, I still tend to avoid it, even though there is a small thrill associated with it; in particular, I consciously chose not to watch Oreimo purely because of the incest angle, even though it otherwise was right up my alley. Frankly, I think it's just a door that I'm choosing not to open; I don't particularly want to broaden my horizons in this area.

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That more or less covers it for me as well. To be precise, in case I'm misreading Zeno (I hadn't seen the term "whitebread" before...): I tend to avoid controversial and taboo themes, though there is something moderately appealing about that one exception case. I couldn't really say why. However, I still tend to avoid it, even though there is a small thrill associated with it; in particular, I consciously chose not to watch Oreimo purely because of the incest angle, even though it otherwise was right up my alley. Frankly, I think it's just a door that I'm choosing not to open; I don't particularly want to broaden my horizons in this area.

 

I used to think as you do....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onhFH7jpq2c

 

Now i'm almost a siscon - despite having no siblings! ;d

 

oh well 2d > 3d anyway .. but that's a pandoras box for another thread :P

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Konata yori Kanata Made

The way the game deals with death, in particular terminal illness and human coping mechanisms. In particular, the protagonist's distancing of himself from the osananajimi who loves him and the way he uses the words 'Don't worry, I will die before you.' to save the soul of a terminally ill little girl.

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