So, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is getting an R Rating

[mitchhamilton]

for you american readers you already know what i mean by r-rating. for those that arent familiar with what im talking about; an r rating is the highest rating a movie can receive, while still being able to be released in theaters across the united states. they usually include one or more of the following; sex, nudity, language, bloody violence, gore, mature themes, etc, etc. A lot of movies intentionally avoid receiving an r rating as this usually means less ticket sales since most parents dont want their child to be traumatized by a nipple or something. however, ever since the release of deadpool that broke every box office record that has existed EVER (might be exaggerating) they are now more open about r ratings. on the down side is people in hollywood might make their movie rated r for the wrong reasons, ie, batman v superman dawn of justice. now the makers of bvsdoj (<--figure it out) have stated that they always wanted to go for an r rating but didnt since the studio was against it. however, after deadpool was r rated and not only was a huge success but it had the highest opening weekend, ever.

 

i honestly dont believe an r rating was bvsdoj's intention in the first place, they just want to jump on the bandwagon before its too late. their mentality seems more like "R rating, equals good movie" when it should be "Good writing and production team, equals good movie." now i know i started this thread with talking about bvsdoj but i really want to talk about this whole r rating more than anything and bvsdoj is a good example for how its done wrong. bvsdoj is simply just jumping on the bandwagon, now they have to make their movie r rated simply because thats what all the hype is all about, but its not really needed for bvsdoj. you may be wondering why i think its just them jumping on the bandwagon when for all i know, everything they said is true. maybe they did always want an r rating but i really dont have faith in a movie where ive seen three full length trailers for it and i still have no clue what its going to be about. all i know is batman is going to fight superman and apparently thats all i need to know to go watch this movie. it is not. oh, and lex luthor wants them to fight or something and wonder woman is in it. yay. so again, forgive me if i think if they are just looking for any excuse to get peoples butts in the theaters, that dont rely on them making a more interesting movie.

 

how its done right is the upcoming wolverine movie. a movie solely focusing on wolverine, deadpool, or the punisher are comic characters that need the violence to make it work. why? because they are very violent people, or they deal with very violent people. an r rating for these characters makes more sense. which is why its a great thing the next standalone wolverine is getting an r rating.

 

deadpool did open up the possibility for more r rated movies in theaters, which is nice since im getting sick of die hard movies being freakin pg-13! no, wait. im just sick of die hard movies. but this is a double edged sword since studios see it as a positive thing and will exploit the shit out of it, until we're right back where we started.

 

what are your thoughts on deadpool's influence as an r rated movie or r ratings in general?

[Dergonu]

10 minutes ago, mitchhamilton said:

 A lot of movies intentionally avoid receiving an r rating as this usually means less ticket sales since most parents dont want their child to be traumatized by a nipple or something.

 

[TheFantasm]

I've never let a movie rating influence whether I want to watch it or not, so to me the R-rating doesn't mean much if anything.

[Nosebleed]

As someone who watched Deadpool yesterday, I am definitely in support of super hero movies getting R ratings in the future. The amount of freedom you get when you don't have to tone down a movie for a teen audience is priceless and more movie makers need to realize this.

I seriously did not expect Deadpool to go as far as it did, I never saw any other super hero movie do this much. It was incredibly refreshing and I hope we can see more of it in the future.

Funny fact: Deadpool got a 14+ rating over here in Portugal and when I went to see it the theater was full of 10 year old kids lol.

[Arcadeotic]

Deadpool opening the door for more R-rated superhero movies can only be good in my books.

I'm sure there's a possibility of it horribly backfiring, but we'll just have to wait and see

[Dergonu]

3 minutes ago, Nosebleed said:

As someone who watched Deadpool yesterday, I am definitely in support of super hero movies getting R ratings in the future. The amount of freedom you get when you don't have to tone down a movie for a teen audience is priceless and more movie makers need to realize this.

I seriously did not expect Deadpool to go as far as it did, I never saw any other super hero movie do this much. It was incredibly refreshing and I hope we can see more of it in the future.

Funny fact: Deadpool got a 14+ rating over here in Portugal and when I went to see it the theater was full of 10 year old kids lol.

Well let's face it, the kids probably loved it  

[Nosebleed]

10 minutes ago, Arcadeotic said:

Deadpool opening the door for more R-rated superhero movies can only be good in my books.

I'm sure there's a possibility of it horribly backfiring, but we'l just have to wait and see

I wouldn't exactly call being the 3rd most sold R-rated movie "backfiring"

Having more of these movies be less restricted in terms of theme will only help make people realize super heroes aren't just for teenagers and I think that can only be a positive thing.

8 minutes ago, Dergonu said:

Well let's face it, the kids probably loved it  

I kinda felt sorry for them because they probably didn't get most of the jokes.

I also think some of the moms only went there because they thought it was some other kind of spiderman.

[Arcadeotic]

1 minute ago, Nosebleed said:

I wouldn't exactly call being the 3rd most sold R-rated movie "backfiring"

Having more of these movies be less restricted in terms of theme will only help make people realize super heroes aren't just for teenagers and I think that can only be a positive thing.

Of course that isn't backfiring

But the R-rating works so well for Deadpool because he's, well, Deadpool

I was more inclining the thing that movie producers will use the R-rating as a more of a scapegoat to degrease the quality of superhero movies, and replace it with gore and such

But however, this won't mean that it's a given, as such I said that we'll just have to wait and see

[mitchhamilton]

2 minutes ago, Arcadeotic said:

Of course that isn't backfiring

But the R-rating works so well for Deadpool because he's, well, Deadpool

I was more inclining the thing that movie producers will use the R-rating as a more of a scapegoat to degrease the quality of superhero movies, and replace it with gore and such

But however, this won't mean that it's a given, as such I said that we'll just have to wait and see

goshujin-sama and i are like one mind. thats my concern. replacing actual content with gore and such is one thing i dont want. i want interesting characters and arcs over anything else. except in just stupid fun movies like deadpool. go ahead and keep it in those.

[DarkZedge]

2 hours ago, Dergonu said:

Well let's face it, the kids probably loved it  

Hahaha indeed they probably did.

Also i'm glad to see more R+ rated superhero movies, that way they don't have to hold back because of the rating and can do them the justice they deserve-

So tired of getting shitty movies because of the PG 13 ratings...ugh

[solidbatman]

This is mildly incorrect. Batman v Superman will get an R rated cut (like unrated cuts that come out after theater runs are over). The theatrical release, as far as I know, will still be PG-13, unless something has changed since last week. Still and obvious jump onto the bandwagon, and a shot at Marvel Studios, but it is not an R release into theaters. 

[Valmore]

Actually, R isn't the highest rating a film can receive in the United States and be distributed to theaters. That would be NC-17.

NC-17 was used to replace the X rating about a few decades ago. Little history lesson here - Rated X didn't always stand for pornography and was a legitimate rating used by the Motion Picture Association of America to designate films that, for various reasons, only people 18 and up should be admitted to see. In other words, a rated R film you could still get into if you were accompanied by an adult, but not a rated X film. What happened was the MPAA neglected to trademark the Rated X label, and the porn industry started applying it to their films, because, well, Rated X sounds pretty damned cool, right? So legitimate films like "Midnight Cowboy" were getting the same label applied as "Debbie Does DesMoines" and the like. As time went on, Rated X just pretty much became synonymous for porn. Around 1990 the MPAA decided to abandon the X label to the porn industry and replaced it with NC-17.

You can make an NC-17 film and be distributed as normal, but most movies companies will avoid it if at all possible. Hell, I'm not sure why "Watchmen" didn't get slapped with the NC-17 - it clearly deserved it even after whatever edits they made to bring it down to an R rating.

[kingdomcome]

6 hours ago, solidbatman said:

This is mildly incorrect. Batman v Superman will get an R rated cut (like unrated cuts that come out after theater runs are over). The theatrical release, as far as I know, will still be PG-13, unless something has changed since last week. Still and obvious jump onto the bandwagon, and a shot at Marvel Studios, but it is not an R release into theaters. 

I believe you are right. The uncut (R rated) comes out on disc/digital after it runs in theaters.

[Zenophilious]

12 hours ago, Nosebleed said:

I also think some of the moms only went there because they thought it was some other kind of spiderman.

'You're probably thinking "This is a superhero movie, but that guy in the suit just turned that other guy into a fucking kebab." Surprise, this is a different kind of superhero story.'

8 hours ago, Valmore said:

You can make an NC-17 film and be distributed as normal, but most movies companies will avoid it if at all possible. Hell, I'm not sure why "Watchmen" didn't get slapped with the NC-17 - it clearly deserved it even after whatever edits they made to bring it down to an R rating.

I agree with that one.  Watchmen is violent as fuck, and easily tops Deadpool in pretty much every way in regards to violence.  Rorschach pours a vat of boiling oil on a dudes face and the Silk Spectre II compound fractures a dude's arm, and you can even see the broken bone jutting out of his arm.  That's not even mentioning the scene where Rorschach loses his mind, and how Dr. Manhattan literally makes people explode into meat chunks.  That was definitely stretching the R rating.

I'm happy with the possibility of more high-profile R-rated movies.  Studios have been pretty damn timid recently unless they had a very specific storyline they had in mind, and would default to PG-13 and cut content in order to make that happen.  I call bullshit on any movie with Wolverine in it not being rated R.  The guy has metal damn claws and slices the shit out of people.  No realistic portrayal will be rated anything but R.  That said, I hope they don't beat the R-rated movie horse to death in the next few years, but I think we can all safely assume that there will be a lot more R-rated movies coming out in the next few years.  I just hope they don't go too crazy with it.

[Kenshin_sama]

Eh, I can kinda see the R rating being exploited too, but it's a trend like everything else. Once the hype dies down, the industry will stop what they're doing and move on to the next trendy thing (god forbid they should hire better staff). However, I do believe that this will have long-lasting benefits as it effectively removes the stigma associated with superhero movies receiving a more mature rating. To be honest, I'm kinda excited to see producers embrace this idea.

19 hours ago, Nosebleed said:

I also think some of the moms only went there because they thought it was some other kind of spiderman.

They should have had this in the movie lol.

Spoiler

 

[Valmore]

8 hours ago, Zenophilious said:

I agree with that one.  Watchmen is violent as fuck, and easily tops Deadpool in pretty much every way in regards to violence.  Rorschach pours a vat of boiling oil on a dudes face and the Silk Spectre II compound fractures a dude's arm, and you can even see the broken bone jutting out of his arm.  That's not even mentioning the scene where Rorschach loses his mind, and how Dr. Manhattan literally makes people explode into meat chunks.  That was definitely stretching the R rating.

Not just the violence though it was as you say. Combined with blue schlong everywhere with Mr. Manhattan, universe blowing sex, and all of the vulgarity - this was an NC-17 film all the way. Which really - that's what it was supposed to be. Alan Moore doesn't cheapen things. Frankly, the movie is really a disappointment compared to the brilliance of the graphic novel. The movie lost a lot of the undertones Moore wrote in.

[Zidan209]

In my city, there was Wolf of wall street in the theatre, and i guess it was aviable for whole families... Lol i don t get it, it was such a violent movie.

For me r-rating means that they have more freedom in doing anything in the movie