Stray Cat Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Haha, looks like I unintentionally started a debate. Here's the facts: I am using Steam I just set up said Steam account so I don't have any friends on it, nor would I particularly care if they saw. There's 3 options on Steam, original Japanese text and 2 translations. I was just wondering if one was better than the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenophilious Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Haha, looks like I unintentionally started a debate. Here's the facts: I am using Steam I just set up said Steam account so I don't have any friends on it, nor would I particularly care if they saw. There's 3 options on Steam, original Japanese text and 2 translations. I was just wondering if one was better than the other. Nah, not so much a debate as a conversation. I'm just saying why some people might be embarrassed about playing VNs. All I see is the Japanese voiced one with English translated subtitles...the other ones I saw were the trailer and the soundtrack. Mind giving me a link or a screenshot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kururin Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Does Akiba's Trip or Sao:Hollow Fragments counts as VN? I think they are in vn category as they have dialouge and gameplay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nohman Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Does Akiba's Trip or Sao:Hollow Fragments counts as VN? I think they are in vn category as they have dialouge and gameplay? They have too much interactivity and gameplay to be considered a visual novel. They are no strict definitions, but I usually just use VNDB's guidelines for what I consider to be a visual novel. See: VNDB's FAQ When to add a visual novel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madvanced Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Does Akiba's Trip or Sao:Hollow Fragments counts as VN? I think they are in vn category as they have dialouge and gameplay? I think they have too much gameplay elements to be considered VNs, even though kamidori and the like still are considered VNs those 2 aren't. Kururin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kururin Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I think they have too much gameplay elements to be considered VNs, even though kamidori and the like still are considered VNs those 2 aren't. thank you for the answer :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayana Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Is Jackson's writing really that difficult to read though? I'm reading Oretsuba right now and it's really... ugh let's just say it takes a lot of patience to wade through because of how "colorful" it is (it has a crapload of "varieties" to it). -.- Literally the only thing helping me read this is the fact that I watched the anime (which is half-good half-bad) and know maybe 1/3 (or possibly less) of the whole VN enough to determine what's being documented in this "colorful" style of japanese. Really, reading japanese or any different language at novice/amateurish levels for that matter is not so much "difficult" as it's just a smaller payoff for putting in more time. One could easily perceive their feelings of laziness in accordance to the payoff they receive as "difficulty" and then think the activity an impossible obstacle to overcome when it's actually not. Please don't be like me and let yourselves get discouraged by this illusion of difficulty that is in reading these famous high-end untranslated VNs (Muramasa, Dies Irae, Asairo, Ruitomo, Oretsuba, Subahibi, etc.). xD They are "uniquely written" in comparison to average fare, and not "difficultly written". Although I guess feelings don't lie, as it truly is difficult to have to sacrifice immersion for the analysis and understanding of what you're reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madvanced Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I finally finished all of Comyu's H-Scenes, now I just have to plow through the rest of the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenophilious Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Just finished Natsumi's chapter. Hopefully I can get through a decent chunk of Chapter 5 tonight. It was better than I expected it to be, but I still like Sachi's and Touka's better. EDIT: Wow. Some of the things Houzuki is saying strongly remind me of Nineteen Eighty-Four, which, while fitting for the social setting, is pretty damn disturbing. Ken: "Is your purpose to make me surrender to you utterly?" Houzuki: "That is the final exam for one seeking to become a Special High Class Individual. You take a person with money, power, and position, then crush them when they are at the height of their foolish pride. That is how you complete the process of constructing an individual who is especially high class." EDIT x2: Oh my God, I finally learned where Touka got her "I'll murder you!" line from, and that one-liner, and all of her tsundere phrases xD Ririko is a huge troll, and now also one of my favorite characters from Sharin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydro Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Slowly working my way through Makina's route. Still in the "funny part", which is nice. Makina and/or Sachi trolling Michiru is one of the best things about Grisaia. Just finished Natsumi's chapter. Hopefully I can get through a decent chunk of Chapter 5 tonight. It was better than I expected it to be, but I still like Sachi's and Touka's better. EDIT: Wow. Some of the things Houzuki is saying strongly remind me of Nineteen Eighty-Four, which, while fitting for the social setting, is pretty damn disturbing. Ken: "Is your purpose to make me surrender to you utterly?" Houzuki: "That is the final exam for one seeking to become a Special High Class Individual. You take a person with money, power, and position, then crush them when they are at the height of their foolish pride. That is how you complete the process of constructing an individual who is especially high class." EDIT x2: Oh my God, I finally learned where Touka got her "I'll murder you!" line from, and that one-liner, and all of her tsundere phrases xD Ririko is a huge troll, and now also one of my favorite characters from Sharin. It's funny because Ririko is a sadist, which means a sadist's favorite way to troll the world is "tsundere creation". Can't fault the logic, personally. Zenophilious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berilium Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 It's funny because Ririko is a sadist, which means a sadist's favorite way to troll the world is "tsundere creation". Can't fault the logic, personally. As a sadist myself I aprove this message. Zenophilious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madvanced Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Just finished Natsumi's chapter. Hopefully I can get through a decent chunk of Chapter 5 tonight. It was better than I expected it to be, but I still like Sachi's and Touka's better. EDIT: Wow. Some of the things Houzuki is saying strongly remind me of Nineteen Eighty-Four, which, while fitting for the social setting, is pretty damn disturbing. Ken: "Is your purpose to make me surrender to you utterly?" Houzuki: "That is the final exam for one seeking to become a Special High Class Individual. You take a person with money, power, and position, then crush them when they are at the height of their foolish pride. That is how you complete the process of constructing an individual who is especially high class." EDIT x2: Oh my God, I finally learned where Touka got her "I'll murder you!" line from, and that one-liner, and all of her tsundere phrases xD Ririko is a huge troll, and now also one of my favorite characters from Sharin. Oh so you finally reached my fav character in Sharin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 It's time. (I haz such plying skillz) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenshin_sama Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 It's time. (I haz such plying skillz)Oh damn! Hype! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praeliator Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I've finished Chris's, Yukie's and Momoyo's routes in Majikoi. Now I'm reading Kazuko's route, the last fully translated route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Cat Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Nah, not so much a debate as a conversation. I'm just saying why some people might be embarrassed about playing VNs. All I see is the Japanese voiced one with English translated subtitles...the other ones I saw were the trailer and the soundtrack. Mind giving me a link or a screenshot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggle Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Getting ready to start Majikoi myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenophilious Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Slowly working my way through Makina's route. Still in the "funny part", which is nice. Makina and/or Sachi trolling Michiru is one of the best things about Grisaia. It's funny because Ririko is a sadist, which means a sadist's favorite way to troll the world is "tsundere creation". Can't fault the logic, personally. Those are some of the best bits, IMO. Michiru is the perfect butt monkey, since she doesn't learn and she either gets really indignant, really embarrassed, or really pissed off afterwards. Soon she'll create a tsundere army to piss off every MC ever. All hail Ririko. It's time. (I haz such plying skillz) You gotta tell us just how hilarious it is. I thought it was a joke at first xD Well, after googling both of the translations (thanks for the pic, by the way, the Steam page failed to mention that it had 3 translations), it seems like gp32's translation is thought of as the better one, but nobody actually cited any evidence, so I don't think it'd matter that much which one you pick. Oh so you finally reached my fav character in Sharin. Yarp. 'Bout time, right? I'm slow as hell with reading VNs. Kinda figured out that she was the secret heroine, even before she appeared in the present. Sharin is a lot like Grisaia, after all; dem brocons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard884 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Currently reading If my Heart had Wings. I wanna ask a question. Do Hotaru had a route too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nohman Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Currently reading If my Heart had Wings. I wanna ask a question. Do Hotaru had a route too? Afraid not, but I think she does get one in the fan disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard884 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Afraid not, but I think she does get one in the fan disc. Too bad ... she is the character that i like to play most.. Thanks anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 It's time. (I haz such plying skillz) I give you real props for purchasing that. I was going to purchase it but held back because it's all-ages and I wasn't sure how good this will be. I have yet to purchase a Windows VN 18+ game from Japan ... :/ I purchased like so many of everything out there except PC 18+ games because they're hard to get. J-List charges three arms and seven feet and I dislike the website more than Play-Asia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Cat Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Well, after googling both of the translations (thanks for the pic, by the way, the Steam page failed to mention that it had 3 translations), it seems like gp32's translation is thought of as the better one, but nobody actually cited any evidence, so I don't think it'd matter that much which one you pick. Thanks, I couldn't find it but I may have been looking in the wrong place. I'll go with that one then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madvanced Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I just finished Comyu, great game but I feel like the end could have answered some questions a little bit more than it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 lol Asuho's big plan to blackmail You to work at the Milky Way is really fun read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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