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Guys, I know you probably think everyone at Sekai Project is stupid but it seems pretty obvious to me that they do know how piracy works.
If you find yourselves in the very unlikely case that you've reached the download limit, just send them a mail explaining your situation. That's what Mangagamer
does alreadyused to do. Those companies are small and reactive enough that you're not likely to ever be bothered by this. -
JAST hired people to try to fix this mess (it even reached japanese twitter so I guess they managed to care for once), and it seems like one of the two TLCs will be @meru:
Let's hope they manage to do something in a month.
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That's all speculation. For all we know this could be for other reasons then piracy, such as preventing security issues or w/e. I don't know shit about back-end web design but who knows.
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Is it time for our trimestrial fuwanovel identity crisis again? Time sure flies.
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Basically what it comes down to is this: people want source-oriented translations rather than target-oriented translations.
A source-oriented translation is when you translate assuming the reader makes the effort to immerse himself into the cultural context of the work being translated, that that's what he looks for. A target-oriented translation is when you translate assuming you need to bring the work into the cultural context of the reader.
I think it doesn't even need to be argued that people reading otaku subculture stuff want very source-oriented translations. The issue arises from the confusions between the source/target dichotomy (which is a real translation choice) and the literal/liberal dichotomy. The latter barely makes any sense in jp to english translations: a good source-oriented translation is not literal because a literal translation is not a good translation. The languages are not compatible that way for all the reasons evoked above and many more.
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Every translator in the world or even anyone who's read/thought a bit about translations and knows more than one language should already know that kind of stuff and somehow the VN community is still bogged down by retarded literal vs. liberal "debates".
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5 minutes ago, sanahtlig said:Even professional translators essentially text hook and use computerized dictionaries, like the tools I use myself (ITH + Translation Aggregator).
Well, what did you expect, that they would copy the text by hand with quills before comparing it with dictionaries written on parchment scrolls?
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The high level of argumentation in that thread is mind-blasting. Even the memes are more productive.
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Lol, it seems like the last poll was linked to the FGO thread on /vg/ (and maybe other places?) and it ended up with 750 votes (polls usually go b/w 250 and 500 votes) and Mahoyo's win (Eustia was largely winning at first). Now Type-Moon fans are onto this it seems.
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Be reassured, being able to easily remember vocab and kanji you rote learn through flash cards is not, in fact, a superpower bestowed only to a few elites among millions.
I'm not sure since how long you've been studying but really as Fred said the harder is not finding 20 minutes or remembering the damned things, it's building the habit and keeping it for more than a week/a month/two months.
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The bad news is that learning hiragana is the easiest part by far.
The good news it that you're not likely to be able to recognize them all by doing a single class. I suggest doing a little daily training to learn them (if you want a help tool there are tons of apps and websites and shit out there), it can be done in under a week, two-three weeks if you're lazy.
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22 hours ago, solidbatman said:
hahahahaha I work on weekends. Go fuck yourself you patriarchy scum. You are triggering those of us who have to work on weekends. I cant even
Now if only the US had a left-wing, progressive president who could better the condition of the working classes... ( ´_ゝ`)
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I'm always a bit skeptical about historical "progressist" claims that seem too obvious. Of course I don't have the massive amounts of historical knowledge that would be required to properly try to decide whether or not the world used to be more violent, but it doesn't seem completely obvious to me. Most of the knowledge we have of ancient civilizations come from fiction so it's kinda hard to separate the truth from the myth.
For example, it's true that the Aztecs had this remarkably violent and massive-scale practice of human sacrifice, but it's a striking oddity in the swathes of pre-colonization american cultures, as far as I know. Iirc some studies suggested that they had a major starvation issue, and human sacrifice was a sort of solution in the form of demographic regulation and meat provider.
And if we go further back, it seems like violent behavior starts mainly from the neolithic period, i.e. when settlement occurs. Despite images we could have of "violent savage people" in the paleolithic age, the little evidence we have doesn't seem to agree with that.
Of course other questions can arise like "what do we count as violence", etc...
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19 minutes ago, Kurisu-Chan said:
Let's just share one thing, in the ancient world, greeks, romans, persians, carthagenese, weren't judged by their race, because in that time it meant nothing, yes, i think it, the ancient world was less racist and less violent than our actual world.
Less violent, certainly, less racist, I'm not sure.
It certainly wasn't as disastrous as colonization and imperialism, but Greeks treated every other people as "barbarians" with no distinction - that's one of the core point of racism: seeing the Other as a uniform, objectified entity. Take babiker's example: arab people who read 1001 Nights realize that it's not very arab. Whereas to a "westerner" there's nothing more arab than that, because anyway "all those things in the East are pretty much the same arent' they?". That's Orientalism.
It's an interesting question that'd be worth some historical researching, I guess. There are probably studies on that topic.
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Hey there, look at what came out yesterday. The 2016 Hollywood diversity report.
QuoteFilms with relatively diverse casts enjoyed the highest median global box office receipts and the highest median return on investment
More precisely, the films with the best median box office and return on investment had one half of non-white lead actors.
Another nail on the coffin of the "we/they just do what the audience wants!" argument.
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42 minutes ago, kingdomcome said:
I'm very happy to hear this.
Are you really happy that the guy who answered you made two horrible mistakes in under twenty words? Not gonna judge the whole thing by that but it certainly doesn't bode well for the rest.
- VirginSmasher and ChaosRaven
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JAST's translation, afaik, used to all be supervised by Makoto. That's no longer the case, and since there's probably no one else to give a shit about what's going on in this company anything can go through.
I guess you guys have one solution left. Go buy Yurirei.
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6 minutes ago, Decay said:
And that distinction doesn't exist on Steam? The people who bought Sakura Spirit are likely different than the ones who bought eden*.
Well yeah, it probably does exist on Steam too. In fact it's probably of a different nature altogether considering the difference of scale.
It's already fairly risky to talk about "the visual novel community" as if it had any sort of canon, despite the fact that I think you can infer a few general differences between "nukige buyers" and "visual novel buyers", but when it comes to applying qualifiers to something like "the steam crowd" what you're talking about is far closer to a product of your imagination than anything grounded in the real world.
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6 minutes ago, Rooke said:
Don't imply the Visual Novel community in the West know about great visual novels, at least not with a straight face. When you have quality games like Gahkthun, Cartagra, KnS, KnS2, all struggling to sell, and shit like 'Boob Wars' and the like selling mountains of copies then obviously it's not just the Steam crowd who don't know a great visual novel when they see one ...
Dubious example. Everything seems to suggest that there's a clear distinction between the nukige buying crowd and the "visual novel" buying crowd.
A better example would be, say, Princess Evangile, but then you'd have to demonstrate that a moege like that is intrinsically less good than IG games, Gahkthun etc...
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It certainly would be refreshing in the landscape of english visual novels.
^person who doesn't know shit about english visual novels and that you should ignore.
(just try to stay subtle in your criticism, american literature for example seems to be plagued with uninspired "social critique".)
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9 minutes ago, Nosebleed said:
Unfortunately i don't really prescribe to the "oppressed/oppressor" ideology tht much. I think painting a whole skin color as one thing or the other is incredibly misleading and once again contributes to us keep having to distinguish ourselves by race, regardless of our actual experiences and who we are.
The problem with any of these social movements is that they paint a whole group of people as homogeneous. All that matters is, for example, your skin color. You could be rich, but if you're black you're oppressed by default, and if you're white, then you're racist and oppressive by default. Completely ignoring people's history and personality in favor of something superficial like skin color is not something I can do.
I believe there's groups of oppressed people though, I'm not so ignorant as to think otherwise, but i think there's more to a group of oppressed people other than just race or just gender, I think there's always more cultural elements that lead to such an oppression and the picture isn't as black and white (no pun intended) as a lot of these social movements intend them to be. Unfortunately no social movement is going to bother describing such a list of factors so they just try to use what they think is the biggest one as their driving force. There's also the problem of these movements becoming too political/institutionalized and people completely poisoning the well from within, hence why I prefer staying away from any of them and keep my ideologies to myself.
Oppressor/oppressed might not be the right term. Dominating/dominated is more canonical and doesn't give the misleading impression that all the agents in the dominating category actively participate in reproducing the dominating/dominated relation.
With that said, the thing is that these relations exist, they're not just ideologies. People are getting discriminated because of their gender, skin color, religion, or even other things like mental/physical issues, and a lot of this discrimination goes beyond simple "accidents", they're systematic. Which is why there's meaning in thinking in those terms. So if you're white in a country with white and black people and racism against black people, you have a privilege, whether you want it or not, and whether you put meaning into "being white" or not: it'll be easier to find a job, easier to not get shot by policemen, etc... Overall easier to get through life.
Of course this is only one among many other things that define your identity. This is not to say that a rich black person has it worse than a poor white person, because rich/poor is also a system of dominating/dominated. That's what I meant when I said there was a need for multiple movements that tackle precise issues: contrary to what some marxists believe, not everything is going to be solved by solving the problem of capitalism and fighting the bondage of classes. That's only one fight among many. But you need to put the finger on precisely where the issue lies when it's there.
And intersectionality, as it's called, is a thing that exists: because it's a fact that you're much more likely to get sexually assaulted if you're a women, but it's also a fact that you're even more likely to get raped if you're a women, black and poor (because some people specifically target people that are less likely to get justice). So it can indeed get delicate to evaluate whether a discrimination is due to such or such element, but the answer is often "a bunch of them" so that's what intersectionality is for.
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I think you missed my point.
SP knows how piracy works because they're not literal retards, therefore if there's a reason for why they've put a limit on the number of downloads, either it has to do with piracy in a way that is more sophisticated than the platitudes that we evoked so far in this thread, or it doesn't have to do with piracy period.