CeruleanGamer Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Some people say it's something I must read if I consider myself a true visual novel connoisseur. I have it on my backlog but I just havent touched it yet since I play so many other games. What's in it that makes it a really good visual novel? EDIT: mistypo the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astro Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Nothing really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipsed Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Muv Luv Alternative is a 7/10 game. It has great moments, yes, but overall it isn't all that impressive. IMHO it does not deserve very high a place in the hallmark of VN's. XReaper, Tenkuru and LinovaA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeruleanGamer Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 Oh ok, Because a lot of visual novel recommendation sites I've been to also rank it rather high and so far this is one of the couple discussion boards where people dont think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_dive Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I believe Eclipsed is just being sarcastic What have you read? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeruleanGamer Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 Yeah, I just realized I got Kappa'ed. Hmmm so far, I am reading Grisaia no Kajitsu, Majikoi A-1 to 5 fandiscs, Ever17, and Comyu. I am also reading Boku wa kanojo wa gatenkei to balance out all the vanilla since I get bored if I've seeing too much lovey-dovey stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReaper Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 this threads title of yours causes me bloodpressure to fucking skyrock .... CeruleanGamer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 muv luv alt can be described with 1 word = epic. If you don't mind to read a really poor and shitty endings then read it. (the ending is very subjetive thing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaguya Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Alternative is pretty good. The first game, though... Ugh. It's not an experience I suggest to people. You'll be reading several hours through a steaming pile of garbage. If you've already read it I'd say go for Alternative, but otherwise, there's probably better stuff you still have to read before it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_dive Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 If you don't like dumb protags, slow starts or if science fiction isn't really your thing I think you could skip it for now. Lots of other good VNs out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaShiki Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Some people say it's something I must read if I consider myself a true visual novel connoisseur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeruleanGamer Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 Do I need to play any prequels or other Muv Luv games before I start on this one to better understand the story? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Do I need to play any prequels or other Muv Luv games before I start on this one to better understand the story? yes, you can't have alt without muv luv extra and unlimited. Are they bad? yes but only if you play them without playing alt, they are excellent as a whole, the truth is they are not meant to be played alone, they are a really long introduction and character development for alternative, you can't have one without the other, can you start watching a movie from the middle?yes but it would be a waste, the same thing applies to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Might as well wait on Degica's official release of the Muv Luv series at this point. Their version will improve on the fan translation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Might as well wait on Degica's official release of the Muv Luv series at this point. Their version will improve on the fan translation. then he/she will have to wait for at least 1 year (if they release the +18) ...and the translation that it's available right now is really good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerathim Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Muv-Luv Alternative is pretty much a masterpiece that is as entertaining as it is interesting and very little VNs can do that (and Extra is far better than people say, but only in retrospect, the amount of foreshadowing the reader comes across is just stunning) . Definitely above 90% of VNs titles, the only real flaw is the awful character-design with fucking too much female characters, while the plot justify the harem as something other than blatant otaku-pandering it still feels wrong. But hey, MLA deserves its reputation, unlike Clannad and Steins;Gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaguya Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Do I need to play any prequels or other Muv Luv games before I start on this one to better understand the story? I'm of the opinion that you don't. If you get a summary of the characters and what happened on the previous games you'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 then he/she will have to wait for at least 1 year (if they release the +18) ...and the translation that it's available right now is really good The game will likely be enhanced in other ways though (e.g., higher resolution visuals and revoiced English). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaShiki Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Definitely above 90% of VNs titles You mean translated titles. That's a pretty big claim to make if you haven't really explored deeper into the medium. Actually, it would be a pretty big claim even if you did. Kawasumi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godskrieg Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Might as well wait on Degica's official release of the Muv Luv series at this point. Their version will improve on the fan translation. I don't feel that's necessary. The translation is already of very high quality and I don't expect it to improve much, and better art wont make it any better, personally I like the stupidity in Muv-Luv's art style. To answer the original question, you're missing out on one of the great VN's out there. I have my personal problems with it but I wont disagree with anyone that says that Muv-Luv is the best. Just remember to read Extra/Unlimited before Alternative. Deep Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Muv-Luv's translation is not "of very high quality", please. It's certainly not as fucked up as other Ixrec translations (because there wasn't that much to fuck up in the first place) but Ixrec's prose is not very good and the infamous Lazaford Fields is enough to demonstrate that it wasn't carefully done at all. But yeah there aren't many translated VNs that are as worth it as Muv-Luv Alternative, you should definitely give it a try at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerathim Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 You mean translated titles. That's a pretty big claim to make if you haven't really explored deeper into the medium. Actually, it would be a pretty big claim even if you did. Well not really, I don't speak japanese myself (not yet) but I'm acquainted to pretty big VN consumers and they all say that there isn't THAT much more interesting untranslated VNs. But it's obvious, most of translators won't waste their time translating shitty titles. I'm not fond of arguing with ad populum but MLA is still pretty damn loved by japanese people. Stop talking about "untranslated VNs" like it's a whole different universe with masterpieces everywhere. Also don't forget that most VNs are galge, no matter the language, and that alone give the genre extremely mediocre standards. If it wasn't for Muramasa I would've already stopped learning japanese, I thought I could pile up a good hundred of very good titles but I find my wishlist pretty empty (considering what I expected) https://vndb.org/u67360/wish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 can you even complain about some minus translation mistake? that's what I call nitpicking, it's so easy to bash on others people work... btw I think the writing flows naturally so I don't have any problems with this translation, this again is something subjective bad translations are for example (for me) ef in which every 2 words you see a "bitch" "that whore" when the character is just saying "baka", I don't know if the mangagamer release was re-translated or not I played the No Name Losers version, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeruleanGamer Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 yes, you can't have alt without muv luv extra and unlimited. Are they bad? yes but only if you play them without playing alt, they are excellent as a whole, the truth is they are not meant to be played alone, they are a really long introduction and character development for alternative, you can't have one without the other, can you start watching a movie from the middle?yes but it would be a waste, the same thing applies to this. So whats the correct order to play the Muv Luv series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterfuryZX Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 So whats the correct order to play the Muv Luv series? extra->unlimited->alternative ofc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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