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    Nier reacted to Decay in Libra of the Vampire Princess - Releasing May 16th, 2017   
    Sorry, but they aren't entitled to my gratitude, and I'm not going to suck them off for presenting us with a pile of garbage I would not enjoy reading. 
    >When you look at VNs that have tens of thousands of lines of text, and you pick maybe 10 out that are bad, isn't that a bit much?
    What do you want out of me? I told you the entire VN is like that, and it is. How am I supposed to criticize their work? Do I have to comb over their entire translation and present you with 10,000 reasons it's bad? I COULD do that, but I don't feel like wasting the several hundred hours of my life it would take.
    If you enjoy bad translations, then more power to you I guess. But they have done nothing to deserve any sort of appreciation from those of us who do not enjoy bad translations.
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    Nier reacted to Mr Poltroon in Libra of the Vampire Princess - Releasing May 16th, 2017   
    That is ever the conundrum, is it not?
    I don't want to pay for product X, because it's bad quality!
    But if I don't pay for product X they will stop making product X. We should be thankful there is product X at all.
    But then they'll just keep making bad product X. Whatever will we do?
    Up to you's, the answer. Set your own limits on what is acceptable and what is not.  Personally, I like supporting even bad quality products when the company has half competent PR, as then I can at the very least convey when something is of inferior quality and hope they do better next time. I can do this because my standards are actually rather low, and I'll accept most things. If a product being of bad quality actively impairs your enjoyment, there may be other things you could be investing on.
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    Nier reacted to Dergonu in Libra of the Vampire Princess - Releasing May 16th, 2017   
    As someone who is learning Japanese, and intends on becoming a professional translator, I don't like this mentality. It is the job of the translator to produce a good translation that pleases the readers, and not a poor translation that is hard to understand, (or worse, one that is straight up incorrect.) People being okay with bad translations means the people who translated said work gets away with it, and more bad translations could surface in the future. If no one speaks up about someone's work being bad, then the translator and the localization company won't learn.
    It's okay to criticise translators if their work is sub-par. I know for a fact that my first work wasn't the best, and I use the feedback I got from that as motivation to get better in the future. This should be what all translators tries to do.
    So, I think it's important that the community speaks up about something if there is actual issues in a localization. Based on the lines Decay has posted in this thread so far, the translation looks very awkward. I hope the lines are at the very least accurate, (I'll be checking this later when the game comes out,) but even if they are, we should definitely let Mikandi Japan know that their work is in need of some serious editing. If they aren't made aware of the fact that their work isn't that good, they could just keep making sub-par translations for the foreseeable future, which would suck for them and their fans.
    With the amount of good localizations that has been released in the past few years, this community should be allowed to have high standards when it comes to translations.
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    Nier reacted to AtomCrafty in Lover Able TL   
    Hey everyone!
    We’ve been a bit quiet for the last couple of weeks, but that doesn’t mean progress has slowed down.
    Translation and TLC are progressing faster than they ever and it seems our editors have finally decided to do their job as well 😉
    Three quarters of Chinatsu's route are translated, which pushes the total TL progress to 70% \o/

    Read this post on our website: http://raburabu.net/progress-update-2017-05-26/
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    Nier reacted to RedK in Lover Able TL   
    Project Introduction
    Good Evening pals, we are Rabu Rabu translations.
    The project we are doing this time is ラブラブル~Lover Able~
    Visual Novel information
    This vn is really sweet and will give you diabetus 
    Game OP
    Summary
    The Team
    @RedK Project Lead
    Translator
    @OutoftheBox Editor
    Quality Assurance
    @AdventSign Editor
    Quality Assurance
    @DemonSabre Editor
    Quality Assurance
    @AtomCrafty Programmer
    Image Editor
    @ke_ke TL Checker
    @Botja TL Checker
    @raygaku Translator
    Downloads
    Trial 1 Trial 2
    Progress

    Extra relevant information
    The girls are super mega cute 
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    Nier reacted to Ariurotl in NEKOPARA Vol. 3 Released!   
    Yeah, it's ridiculous to even suggest the conveyor belt of well-packaged turdburgers is ever going to stop as long as people pay for more.
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    Nier reacted to Cry0 in Kono Oozora H-Scenes Porting Project   
    Let me know if you need any help with editing this, read the version released by MoeNovel and the game was really short since they removed a lot of things in the English adaptation of this VN. Would like to see this project all in English, without anything removed.
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    Nier reacted to Decay in Libra of the Vampire Princess - Releasing May 16th, 2017   
    It is indeed weird, and nobody knows why it is happening. Light is not using the latest version of the English script for their test builds, which is what they're recording these videos using. We can only hope that they remember to package the correct version of the scripts with the release version of the game.
    ANYWAY, this thread is about Libra, let's talk about that some more!
    "With only that, my body laying on the floor moves in front of her. My feet are hovering above the ground."
    Actually, let's not.
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    Nier reacted to Decay in Libra of the Vampire Princess - Releasing May 16th, 2017   
    That's a poor way to judge it, since those use old, outdated versions of the script, much to the translators' own frustrations.
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    Nier got a reaction from Vorathiel in Hoshimemo Kickstarter Announced- AA and 18+ versions as well as Eternal Heart Stretch Goal   
    That's the thing, Hoshimemo doesn't even have the funny factor going for it unlike say Majikoi.
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    Nier reacted to Pabloc in Kono Oozora H-Scenes Porting Project   
    I'll have some more free time now, so I should be able to finish the TL in about 2 weeks~ish.
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    Nier reacted to Yuuko in Kono Oozora H-Scenes Porting Project   
    Sorry but that's how the world works. If you are poor you can't have expensive hobbies. Period.
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    Nier reacted to Okarin in Hoshimemo Kickstarter Announced- AA and 18+ versions as well as Eternal Heart Stretch Goal   
    Don't get me wrong, I've dropped games, and I have games stalled, like Noble Works (I played Koichoco instead, and it was okay, Noble Works is just pretty insipid for me).
    If you don't like or enjoy the majority of the routes, either the game is bad or it isn't your thing. There are games like Period, with a whopping 8 routes, that have filler routes, sadly. I consider this a mistake. Filler routes shouldn't exist.
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    Nier reacted to Okarin in Hoshimemo Kickstarter Announced- AA and 18+ versions as well as Eternal Heart Stretch Goal   
    Well, probably. Your average moege is a mixed bag. Since, in fact, every route has different feel and probably is aimed to different people. No wonder you don't (probably can't) like them all.
    I still feel the urge to "collect them all", Pokémon style
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    Nier reacted to Narcosis in Hoshimemo Kickstarter Announced- AA and 18+ versions as well as Eternal Heart Stretch Goal   
    English masses will finally be able to appreciate how bad Hoshimemo is.
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    Nier reacted to PhleBuster in Chuusotsu - 1st Graduation by Studio Beast coming to the west via Kickstarter   
    By extremely popular demand, we now have a limited physical Collector's Edition for Chuusotsu - 1st Graduation available in the campaign too!

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    Nier reacted to Decay in Chuusotsu - 1st Graduation by Studio Beast coming to the west via Kickstarter   
    VNDB has a highly rated friendship tag and no romance tags, so it seems like this is a VN without any romance.
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    Nier got a reaction from Kkoro in False Elegy [Kickstarter Launched just now!]   
    Well at least it doesn't show up for me, here is a screenshot of how your post looks like on my end:

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    Nier reacted to Kkoro in False Elegy [Kickstarter Launched just now!]   
    Oh strange... thanks for helping out!
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    Nier reacted to Kkoro in False Elegy [Kickstarter Launched just now!]   
    Wow, we've come a long way.
    Kickstarter confirmed 25 April!
    Preview available here: 
     
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    Nier got a reaction from Narcosis in JAST USA finally reveals the release date for their most hotly anticipated upcoming release!   
    HAHAHA!
     
    What about Sumaga?
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    Nier reacted to Decay in JAST USA finally reveals the release date for their most hotly anticipated upcoming release!   
    Surprise! I know how much everyone has been looking forward to the hit visual novel Nympho Sensei Ryoko, and now it's finally here! With this mammoth on the horizon, maybe they'll have time to work on some of their side projects like Django and Sumaga.
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    Nier got a reaction from Swim Swim in My Rant About Sekai Project And Their Unending Stream of Lies, Scams and Other Deceitful Schemes   
    Absurd Difference in Quality and Pricing Between Their Clannad Physical And The Rest:
    For all the Kickstarters and IndieGogo Sekai Project did, there is not much to show in terms of rewards that was delivered, I have almost backed every crowdfunding campaigns Sekai Project did and so far after thousands of dollars spent I only have Clannad, 1/4 of the Grisaia Boxset and Root Double to show for it.
    Here we compare Grisaia DVD Boxset quality to Texhnolyze DVD Boxset:
    Comparison Pic 1:
    The Texhnolyze DVD Boxset is very sturdy while the Sekai Project Grisaia Boxset is flimsy and of low quality (especially for that price) also even though the Texhnolyze DVD Boxset is very sturdy for good measure a solid Styrofoam block was also added to prevent the DVD Boxset from getting bent since the boxset was only bundled with volume 1, while the rest of the space is empty:
    While the Sekai Project Grisia DVD Boxset "anti-bent protection measures" consist simply of a thin and flimsy piece of cardboard layer:
    Styrofoam blocks must be too expensive for Sekai Project... And a low quality DVD Boxset with a set of cheap black DVD cases is apparently worth hundreds of dollars! There this is what you got for hundred of dollars...
    Now I would like to now compare that with Clannad HD Kickstarter Limited Edition from Sekai Project to Majikoi S First Print Print Limited Edition.
    Comparison Pic 1:
    Comparison Pic 2:
    Clannad 1 Guidebook:
    Clannad 2:
    Majikoi S 1 First Print Limited Edition Artbook:
    Majikoi S 2:
    Now with the Clannad Kickstarter Limited Edition we have something which seems as good as japanese releases, with a big box, a high quality 81 pages guidebook, the game disc in a long jewel case and the mabinogi soundtrack disc in a standard jewel case, not only that it is a numbered edition with only about 4000 units made, all this for 40 USD Early Birds and 50 USD for the rest.
    So basically for 40/50 USD, you could get something that rival japanese eroge First Print Limited Edition releases with plenty of content, but for hundred of dollars you get a cheap low quality Boxset with censored copies on DVD in cheap black DVD cases? I am not so good at math, but I think something's wrong here. Now it seems that the prices have increased since Clannad Kickstarter by 3x and the quality and amount of content for your buck seem to have diminished? Again either something's wrong with the math...
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    Nier got a reaction from Infernoplex in My Rant About Sekai Project And Their Unending Stream of Lies, Scams and Other Deceitful Schemes   
    Absurd Difference in Quality and Pricing Between Their Clannad Physical And The Rest:
    For all the Kickstarters and IndieGogo Sekai Project did, there is not much to show in terms of rewards that was delivered, I have almost backed every crowdfunding campaigns Sekai Project did and so far after thousands of dollars spent I only have Clannad, 1/4 of the Grisaia Boxset and Root Double to show for it.
    Here we compare Grisaia DVD Boxset quality to Texhnolyze DVD Boxset:
    Comparison Pic 1:
    The Texhnolyze DVD Boxset is very sturdy while the Sekai Project Grisaia Boxset is flimsy and of low quality (especially for that price) also even though the Texhnolyze DVD Boxset is very sturdy for good measure a solid Styrofoam block was also added to prevent the DVD Boxset from getting bent since the boxset was only bundled with volume 1, while the rest of the space is empty:
    While the Sekai Project Grisia DVD Boxset "anti-bent protection measures" consist simply of a thin and flimsy piece of cardboard layer:
    Styrofoam blocks must be too expensive for Sekai Project... And a low quality DVD Boxset with a set of cheap black DVD cases is apparently worth hundreds of dollars! There this is what you got for hundred of dollars...
    Now I would like to now compare that with Clannad HD Kickstarter Limited Edition from Sekai Project to Majikoi S First Print Print Limited Edition.
    Comparison Pic 1:
    Comparison Pic 2:
    Clannad 1 Guidebook:
    Clannad 2:
    Majikoi S 1 First Print Limited Edition Artbook:
    Majikoi S 2:
    Now with the Clannad Kickstarter Limited Edition we have something which seems as good as japanese releases, with a big box, a high quality 81 pages guidebook, the game disc in a long jewel case and the mabinogi soundtrack disc in a standard jewel case, not only that it is a numbered edition with only about 4000 units made, all this for 40 USD Early Birds and 50 USD for the rest.
    So basically for 40/50 USD, you could get something that rival japanese eroge First Print Limited Edition releases with plenty of content, but for hundred of dollars you get a cheap low quality Boxset with censored copies on DVD in cheap black DVD cases? I am not so good at math, but I think something's wrong here. Now it seems that the prices have increased since Clannad Kickstarter by 3x and the quality and amount of content for your buck seem to have diminished? Again either something's wrong with the math...
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    Nier got a reaction from Infernoplex in My Rant About Sekai Project And Their Unending Stream of Lies, Scams and Other Deceitful Schemes   
    If you would check my Kickstarter profile you would notice that I have been supporting the localization Visual Novel effort since it's beginnings on Kickstarter with The Grisaia Trilogy and The Clannad Crowdfunding campaigns being the first things that I have ever backed on Kickstarter, since I was eager to see more Visual Novels translated in english, I have spent thousands of dollars in the last few years on supporting pretty much every major japanese VN crowdfunding campaign since the beginning of the trend. However as these localization companies grow, they get more and more bold with their schemes, false advertisements, cheatings, lies and coy word play which in the ends result in them royally screwing over the very same people that helped these localization companies grow as big as they are now. I would prefer to say nothing and just keep things as they are now, but I feel that if I did that these companies would see that they can get away with this and grow bolder and bolder with their schemes aimed at screwing over their customers out of their money for all they are worth, so they need to be called out on it and since no one seem to have noticed and/or mentioned this and I feel that at least someone has to do it.
     
    Sekai Project's False Advertising Scam and Creating Demand Schemes:
    Sekai Project had recently launched another Kickstarter Campaign, this time it was for A Clockwork Ley-Line Trilogy, on this Kickstarter the only way to get a physical edition of the Trilogy was to pay a minimum of 135 USD, it is a similar system to what they used for their ChronoClock Kickstarter Campaign which was the first Sekai Project Kickstarter Campaign where they finally dropped the false pretenses of it being for the sake of the game localization and more for the sake of manufacturing physical goods, in the Clockwork Ley-Line Trilogy Kickstarter you could get a I quote "The Physical Limited Edition" for a premium price of 135 USD not any less, the 135 USD tier is a tier that include both digital copies and physical copies of the rewards, HOWEVER, the I quote "Physical Limited Edition" could not be obtained as stand-alone, they were exclusives to these higher premium tiers and were exclusively sold bundled together with digital codes, which brought the price to a minimum of 135 USD for a I quote "Physical Limited Edition".
    A few people had (rightfully) complained about this in the past and mentioned how it was not fair to keep the Physical Edition exclusively bundled together with digital which raised the price by x2 and how a choice should be offered to backers who only wanted a physical edition without any of the digital rewards, to which Sekai Project basically replied to them that they should go take a hike and they they wouldn't change anything and that if they wanted a physical edition it was 135 USD+ or nothing.
    The Clockwork Ley-Line Trilogy raised a total of 135,430 USD during a 31 days Kickstarter Campaign, which ended on the 19th March 2017 (less than a month ago), however unlike usually it seems that Sekai Project has gone into a new direction unlike before and decided to open an Store Page on the Backerkit Pre-order Store for A Clockwork Ley-Line Trilogy.
    See here, Backerkit Preorder Store:
    Now look here on the original Kickstarter Crowdfunding Campaign page:
    You would notice the following things:
    - On Kickstarter it was only sold for 135 USD minimum bundled together with digital codes, On the Backerkit Store it is sold stand-alone for only 75 USD.
    - On Kickstarter it was advertised as a "Limited Edition", on the Backerkit Store the words "Limited Edition" have been completely removed, yet according to the description it is the same physical set of the trilogy in a slipcase.
    This is what is called a "False Advertising", by falsely putting the words "Limited Edition" next to a non-Limited Edition they would create more demand for it and as such garner more money even though their intention is to keep making money on their Backerkit Store by having it readily available for purchase in a non-limited capacity, this is called "Artificial Creating Demand", see this example to easily understand this scam:
     
    That's basically what Sekai Project has sold you on Kickstarter if you backed for their "Limited Edition" of a Clockwork Ley-Line which was "Limited" in name only and for a limited time, the only thing "limited" about it is the limited amount of time it took for it to lose it's status of "Limited Edition" (only after they got their 135k from the Kickstarter funds mind you) as you saw on it's Backerkit Pre-order Store.
    Some info on the Backerkit Preorder Store https://www.backerkit.com/preorder_projects
    What they don't tell you is that the "Backerkit Pre-order Store" is a "Pre-order store" in name only, as it is not restricted to only preorder projects, no, even if something has been released years ago you can still let your Backerkit Pre-order Store Page open for business for an indefinite amount of time no matter how long ago the project has already been done with and released. So if Sekai Project wanted, they could use Backerkit as their very own cheap Online Store to sell their fake "Limited Editions" in a seemingly inexhaustible numbers of supply for an indefinite amount of time.
    So basically here you see that Sekai Project royally screwed over their Kickstarter physical backers (the very same people that made their Kickstarter a success), by lying and selling to them a non-Limited Edition as a "Limited Edition" and by overcharging these same Kickstarter Backers a minimum of 135 USD for a physical edition, while they now offer the same physical edition on their Backerkit Store for only 75 USD.
    I urge everyone who backed the A Clockwork Ley-Line Kickstarter for a physical "Limited Edition" to send a message to Sekai Project to request a refund here: [email protected]
    Unless off course you like being overcharged and taken for a fool.
     
    Sekai Project And Frontwing Screwing Over The Grisaia Trilogy Kickstarter Physical Backers:
    As you probably know, we now are going to have 2 different Grisaia Boxset in english, not one, but two. However one is clearly inferior to the other as I will explain in a few line below, now it's been confirmed that Frontwing will release an English version of the Grisaia Complete Box, which basically screws over every one of the Backers that backed Grisaia Physical Kickstarter in Q4 2014-Q1 2015,
    So who's to blame for this? Frontwing? Sekai Project? Both of them? Who knows, but Sekai Project shares the blame in this as they are the holders of the license and only they could give the greenlight to Frontwing for producing physical copies of the Complete Box and so they did even though they damn well knew that if they did this, that it would instantly screw over the thousands of Grisaia Trilogy Kickstarter Backers who have as of yet not even received 3/4 of the physical game rewards.
    Why is this situation so bad? I will let you judge for yourself:
    Frontwing 2017 Boxset:
     
    Sekai Project 2014 Boxset:
    So what happens now:
    1. Thousands of Grisaia Trilogy Kickstarter Backers are now going to be stuck with to the clearly shittier Sekai Project Boxset compared to the Frontwing Boxset.
    2. Thousands of Grisaia Trilogy Kickstarter Backers have as of yet only received only 1 (Fruit) of the physical game out of the 4 (Labynrinth, Eden, ChiruChiru Michiru)
    3. The Frontwing Boxset has about 14 different goods included (including the high quality collector's box), while the Sekai Project Boxset has only the measly DVD physical games cases in a flimsy DVD Boxset.
    4. The Frontwing Boxset will be 18+, While the Sekai Project Boxset was censored.
    5. Now that the Frontwing Boxset has been announced this has totally devalued the Sekai Project Boxset to nothing and made it worthless.
    6. Because of point "5.", thousands of Backers are now stuck with the Sekai Project Boxset that they will never be able to sell off, especially if they wish to upgrade to the clearly superior Frontwing Boxset, because who will now pay hundreds of dollars for the Sekai Project Boxset now that there is going to be a Frontwing Boxset that is clearly superior in every way?
    7. Frontwing has shown a complete lack of professionalism and care by basically telling their gaijin customers to buy again and again different versions of Grisaia Boxsets because "That's as good as it's going to get for non-japanese" to only release new ones who were better than the last, some people had to buy Grisaia Boxsets 3 times between 2014 and now (Sekai Project 2014 Boxset, Japanese 2017 Frontwing Boxset Provided by Frontwing who used J-List as their very own online store, English 2017 Frontwing Boxset who will use Backerkit as their own Online Store). This sort of unprofessional behavior certainly wouldn't fly in Japan as it would have been called out real quick in the otaku eroge gamers circles and would have ruined the reputation of said infringing companies, but they do it here because they know they can get away with it in gaijinland. In retrospect, there is only ONE Grisaia Boxset in Japan that was produced in an actual limited quantity.
     
    I am not gonna lie, I am not crazy about the physical library of titles from MangaGamer or JAST, but at least these have never tried to royally screw over so horribly their customers like Sekai Project does and I never had any problems with the few times I dealt with them.
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