Zakamutt Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 There's a new artist, which seems to turn batman off a bit. Idk myself, didn't actually read the first episode yet. backed it myself, because yay good WVNs! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dischan/dysfunctional-systems/?ref=fuwanovel (note I just fucked around with the referrer thing for my amusement, no idea what it will actually do) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaguya Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Seems nice. I never really cared about artwork anyway, and I liked the idea of DS. Hopefully they'll get enough moneys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysrumble Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I'm actually quite surprised. I didn't know there was a visual novel developer in my own country, never mind right near my own hometown. The visual novel itself doesn't even look half bad either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutterz Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 49k? O_O Seems to me like it won't be easy to reach... But if they think they can, all the power to them. I'll probably pitch in for the Ep. 2 and 3 reward for $25 at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidbatman Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I adored the first episode and was really looking forward to future installments. However, Doomfest's art was something really unique and one reason I was so drawn in to Dischan's work. I'll still likely give a pretty good amount of money for this, but I'm really disappointed that the art isn't quite up to Doomfest's level, and that they are going from 5 episodes to 3. If the next two are as short as the first, I'm really going to get burnt on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakamutt Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 >If the next two are as short as the first, I'm really going to get burnt on this. they mention that they are aiming to make both ep 2 and 3 much longer than the first on the ks page, at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord Rooke Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 A) $50,000! B ) Where the hell is all this money going? And yes, I saw the graph. C) They'll reach this when I'm Emperor of my own little island in the sun. It'll have coconuts, and dancing girls, and my own version of the NASA space program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakamutt Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 Well, it's canadian dollars. Technically it's only like, 45k The bar does seem to be set pretty high, but I'm not sure if it's too high yet. Only time will tell, I guess... Anyway, the beauty of this kickstarter for me is that one of the reasons I haven't read dyssys 1 yet is the potential lack of a continuation. This goes through, it will probably happen, and i'll be able to read ep 1 immediately through the 30 CAD option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shcboomer Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I guess a Kickstarter is a good sign at least. Maybe we'll see more in the future if this is successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidbatman Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I guess a Kickstarter is a good sign at least. Maybe we'll see more in the future if this is successful. Well they are making an animated Junipers Knot prequel, which is puzzling as I thought Junipers Knot was a very nice, self-contained work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvertMouse Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 It costs $49K to make a visual novel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakamutt Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 two visual novel episodes, claimed to be significantly longer than ep 1, technically. I still do wonder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RusAnon Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Not sure I like their new genga. Doomfest's art was very significant part of what made their games good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaguya Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Well, they managed to get all the money. Great job, I'm looking forward to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakamutt Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 I'm certainly happy. I hope they reach some of their stretch goals; the animated sprites thing can be done pretty well (see Symphonic Rain. didn't do a lot more than eyeblinks and soft rain with it, but still was cool). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shcboomer Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Yet another KS funded project I'm looking forward to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakimichi Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I don't like the new art style. I'm gonna wait for reviews when this comes out. I already bought episode 1 on steam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord Rooke Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I'm still incredibly suspicious of that graph. $20,000 for the art... and $10,000 for the writing. Is he paying himself to write using kickstarter funds? Something seems fishy about this. The art to writing cost ratio seems high, considering he's one of the writers. In fact, the cost to product ratio in general seems high. But I wish them the best. The more english made VNs the better. *Goes back to looking at that piechart.* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albedo Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Glad this was funded, the first one is a really good VN. Yeah, sucks about Doomfest, but the most important part is the writing anyway. Now, if they'd use some of that 10k to hire an editor, that would be golden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Major Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Huh.. never heard of Dysfunctional Systems before. Looks interesting enough... I'll get the first one on steam and maybe pitch in on the kickstarter later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakimichi Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I'm still incredibly suspicious of that graph. $20,000 for the art... and $10,000 for the writing. Is he paying himself to write using kickstarter funds? Something seems fishy about this. The art to writing cost ratio seems high, considering he's one of the writers. In fact, the cost to product ratio in general seems high. But I wish them the best. The more english made VNs the better. *Goes back to looking at that piechart.* My game developer colleague (not related to dischan) explained that this is enough for a year salary of an indie game developer. This is probably the only income that the team can have and they are putting all their time and resources on this so I can understand why the funding is huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vemocleus Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I have played Juniper's Knot, but have not played DS because of continuation. The old art style was excellent, but comes no where near being close to what makes a VN great in the first place. I went ahead and gave a quick donation before the expiration, so that I may get a download of the first one, which I'll be happy to continue with in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvertMouse Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I'm still incredibly suspicious of that graph. $20,000 for the art... and $10,000 for the writing. Is he paying himself to write using kickstarter funds? Something seems fishy about this. The art to writing cost ratio seems high, considering he's one of the writers. In fact, the cost to product ratio in general seems high. But I wish them the best. The more english made VNs the better. *Goes back to looking at that piechart.* It depends on people's stance on the matter as well. Many folks here know I build VNs in my own time. I've been doing it since college many years ago. Back then, there was no such thing as kickstarter, so I did everything myself (and the outcome was terrible of course). Now I fund my projects by having a day job and then working on my games when I'm home. The freelancers are paid. I get paid when the work is done. That's the generation I grew up in so maybe it's different now. I'm interested in kickstarter, though it's more for promotion than anything else. As for the $20k art, the kickstarter was for two episodes, right? So that'd mean more illustrations. Let's say it costs $200 per CG (that's quite a lot unless it's some truly famous artist). For 20k, that means about 100 CGs? There'll be complications but you get the general picture. I hear there might be animated sprites so that'll make costing more complex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord Rooke Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I wasn't commenting about the 20k for art, but rather the 10k for writing. Most of the money spent on games is for the Art and audio. Writing is normally an insignificant amount. Especially when you're one of the writers yourself, like Miller is (Miller's down as one of the writer's for the project.) That's what's fishy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakamutt Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 I wasn't commenting about the 20k for art, but rather the 10k for writing. Most of the money spent on games is for the Art and audio. Writing is normally an insignificant amount. Especially when you're one of the writers yourself, like Miller is (Miller's down as one of the writer's for the project.) That's what's fishy. VNs aren't really games anyway (#opinions), and there's going to be a lot of writing in a VN compared to a game of equal length. I see the costs given as basically providing for the creators' living expenses (Miller himself is graduating from uni and doing this full-time soon, apparently). Also, a different person than Miller will likely do about half the writing, so there is that. -- Anyway, funded 137%! Not too bad, though I'm sad to see we didn't get them animated sprites. Oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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