Soulless Watcher

Absolutely. So I was reading a VN the other day, and this girl went and talked to the protagonist! Can you believe that? Broke my imersion right there, such a thing would never happen to me.

I know right? Apparently, I have lived a very sheltered life. 

I know right? Apparently, I have lived a very sheltered life. 

People seem to have a tendency to try and associate their own life experiences to the visual novel they are reading, which I never fully understood. I have never encountered a route or heroine that I would associate with a real world counterpart. The appeal of visual novels to me is their unrealism, situations that could never happen in real life and characters that are often tailor made for the reader to like or at least sympathize with. Reality is often the opposite of fiction, boring and it is usually harder to sympathize with or even achieve basic understanding of other people. 
 

People seem to have a tendency to try and associate their own life experiences to the visual novel they are reading, which I never fully understood. I have never encountered a route or heroine that I would associate with a real world counterpart. The appeal of visual novels to me is their unrealism, situations that could never happen in real life and characters that are often tailor made for the reader to like or at least sympathize with. Reality is often the opposite of fiction, boring and it is usually harder to sympathize with or even achieve basic understanding of other people. 
 

I know right? Apparently, I have lived a very sheltered life. 

Dude store clerks don't give a fuck, they just want you to hurry up and buy your shit, so they can go back to contemplating their empty lives in peace. 
My Family doesn't give a fuck either since both of my sisters love yaoi, my mom is really into those trashy cheap romance novels, and my dad LOVES Fox News. We just kinda accepted that each of us has their "thing" and left it at that. 
 

Dude store clerks don't give a fuck, they just want you to hurry up and buy your shit, so they can go back to contemplating their empty lives in peace. 
My Family doesn't give a fuck either since both of my sisters love yaoi, my mom is really into those trashy cheap romance novels, and my dad LOVES Fox News. We just kinda accepted that each of us has their "thing" and left it at that. 
 

My Yuri loving blood trembles. 

"Fake outrage" You know just because I'm not instantly drooling over everything shoved in my face doesn't mean I'm just making up my entire opinion on visual novel kickstarters. I admit I tend to be hyperbolic, but I'm not intentionally going out of my way to differ from the majority, I just don't feel the need to completely surrender myself to the hoard mentality. Yes I am a fan of that asshole that gave the new Zelda game a 7/10. 
It doesn't change the fact that they are aiming at Western audiences to help fund that particular aspect of the visual novel, I know that there is a sizable portion of the fan base that is perfectly happy with that.... I'm just not one of them. 
 

What the fuck is with the weird prominence on the Japanese voice acting? Like is this campaign here to solely fund that aspect of the vn? I'm sorry, but I haven't fallen down that specific fucking weaboo hole. If I'm helping bankroll the development of a visual novel I want extra story content or art assets, voice acting (especially foreign voice acting) is not even on my list of priorities. 
No your not getting a dime outa me, I'll be glad to purchase this visual novel after I see some positive reviews.

Your completely right of course, I just didn't specifically state that because I don't know who in the business gets the biggest slice of the pie and it is easier just to aim at the face of the company. Kinda like how everyone blames everything wrong with the country on the president, even though there are hundreds of people in government actively fucking things up at varying degrees. 
Doesn't really change anything about my point though, just the nitty gritty details. 
You asked why I had an emotional backlash against the kickstarter, it was the wording of the project pitch brought up memories of WAS. It's not the reason why I'm avoiding backing this specific visual novel project. Without the small bit about voice acting stapled on this is simply another one of Sekai Projects "storefront" kickstarters, a way for them to sell physical merchandise easily. Which is cool that they are doing that for people interested, I would much rather buy merchandise for something that I know I will be a fan of. With the voice acting pitch..... I just don't really care, if this was an Eroge or a Moege, alright I get it those genres rely allot on the voice acting. In heavily story focused visual novels I find myself skipping through the VA because I read at a decent pace.
 

What the fuck is with the weird prominence on the Japanese voice acting? Like is this campaign here to solely fund that aspect of the vn? I'm sorry, but I haven't fallen down that specific fucking weaboo hole. If I'm helping bankroll the development of a visual novel I want extra story content or art assets, voice acting (especially foreign voice acting) is not even on my list of priorities. 
No your not getting a dime outa me, I'll be glad to purchase this visual novel after I see some positive reviews.

And I'm a flying potato who's come from Mars to take vengeance upon botanists everywhere.

I'm doing my best not to comment on the overall argument, since I have an inherent bias towards NGE, but I wouldn't worry in the end you are two people of millions who watch NGE. Who gives a shit what other people thinks of your tantrum argument, nothing was going to be accomplished or achieved. Internet arguments only serve as entertainment for those directly involved, nothing more and nothing less. Especially in regards with anything that you have an emotional attachment with. The only things that people are capable to have a rational discussion, in which their opinions on the subject can be swayed, are in topics in which either person has no interest or emotional involvement in. 
ANYWAYS, you failed because you quit first 3/10. Ahhhh makes me miss my more belligerent days in which I kept internet arguments going for weeks, fun times. 

This gal in my Cultural Geography class (I pretty much only took it to bump me up to a full time student) is getting one my and everyone else's nerves. First off she is one of those people that feels like they have to answer EVERY question, like even if it is another student asking the professor something or when the professor specifically asks another student. That's bad enough, but she also has some sort of speech impediment or some mental impairment that causes her to slur her words and essentially yell whenever she speaks.
You know what, if that was  all I could swallow it, it is annoying as fuck.... but it's somewhat understandable. However, she is a hard right nut and spent a good portion of a class period earlier this week trying to convince everyone that planed parenthood clinics were mainly baby murder factories. She claimed that a member of her church called a clinic and was told that they only did abortion. Yet, she didn't claim this a proof that the clinic was focusing on abortions, instead she claimed that the person who answered the call somehow knew the caller was a "Christian" and fed her bad information so the caller would tell other people to damage the reputation of Christians....... fucking what? 
Today she tried to connect a biblical story with the lecture on migrating languages and the professor told her, rightly, to lay off. I don't really remember the exact wording, but he essentially said that he wanted to focus on the science in the class and while there is nothing wrong with believing whatever you want, it is his job to teach the hard facts on the subject and not mix in religion. I swear to God if I get roped in as a God is Not Dead 3 extra, Ima going to print out pages of snuff hentai and tape them all over the campus walls. 

This gal in my Cultural Geography class (I pretty much only took it to bump me up to a full time student) is getting one my and everyone else's nerves. First off she is one of those people that feels like they have to answer EVERY question, like even if it is another student asking the professor something or when the professor specifically asks another student. That's bad enough, but she also has some sort of speech impediment or some mental impairment that causes her to slur her words and essentially yell whenever she speaks.
You know what, if that was  all I could swallow it, it is annoying as fuck.... but it's somewhat understandable. However, she is a hard right nut and spent a good portion of a class period earlier this week trying to convince everyone that planed parenthood clinics were mainly baby murder factories. She claimed that a member of her church called a clinic and was told that they only did abortion. Yet, she didn't claim this a proof that the clinic was focusing on abortions, instead she claimed that the person who answered the call somehow knew the caller was a "Christian" and fed her bad information so the caller would tell other people to damage the reputation of Christians....... fucking what? 
Today she tried to connect a biblical story with the lecture on migrating languages and the professor told her, rightly, to lay off. I don't really remember the exact wording, but he essentially said that he wanted to focus on the science in the class and while there is nothing wrong with believing whatever you want, it is his job to teach the hard facts on the subject and not mix in religion. I swear to God if I get roped in as a God is Not Dead 3 extra, Ima going to print out pages of snuff hentai and tape them all over the campus walls. 

This gal in my Cultural Geography class (I pretty much only took it to bump me up to a full time student) is getting one my and everyone else's nerves. First off she is one of those people that feels like they have to answer EVERY question, like even if it is another student asking the professor something or when the professor specifically asks another student. That's bad enough, but she also has some sort of speech impediment or some mental impairment that causes her to slur her words and essentially yell whenever she speaks.
You know what, if that was  all I could swallow it, it is annoying as fuck.... but it's somewhat understandable. However, she is a hard right nut and spent a good portion of a class period earlier this week trying to convince everyone that planed parenthood clinics were mainly baby murder factories. She claimed that a member of her church called a clinic and was told that they only did abortion. Yet, she didn't claim this a proof that the clinic was focusing on abortions, instead she claimed that the person who answered the call somehow knew the caller was a "Christian" and fed her bad information so the caller would tell other people to damage the reputation of Christians....... fucking what? 
Today she tried to connect a biblical story with the lecture on migrating languages and the professor told her, rightly, to lay off. I don't really remember the exact wording, but he essentially said that he wanted to focus on the science in the class and while there is nothing wrong with believing whatever you want, it is his job to teach the hard facts on the subject and not mix in religion. I swear to God if I get roped in as a God is Not Dead 3 extra, Ima going to print out pages of snuff hentai and tape them all over the campus walls. 

This gal in my Cultural Geography class (I pretty much only took it to bump me up to a full time student) is getting one my and everyone else's nerves. First off she is one of those people that feels like they have to answer EVERY question, like even if it is another student asking the professor something or when the professor specifically asks another student. That's bad enough, but she also has some sort of speech impediment or some mental impairment that causes her to slur her words and essentially yell whenever she speaks.
You know what, if that was  all I could swallow it, it is annoying as fuck.... but it's somewhat understandable. However, she is a hard right nut and spent a good portion of a class period earlier this week trying to convince everyone that planed parenthood clinics were mainly baby murder factories. She claimed that a member of her church called a clinic and was told that they only did abortion. Yet, she didn't claim this a proof that the clinic was focusing on abortions, instead she claimed that the person who answered the call somehow knew the caller was a "Christian" and fed her bad information so the caller would tell other people to damage the reputation of Christians....... fucking what? 
Today she tried to connect a biblical story with the lecture on migrating languages and the professor told her, rightly, to lay off. I don't really remember the exact wording, but he essentially said that he wanted to focus on the science in the class and while there is nothing wrong with believing whatever you want, it is his job to teach the hard facts on the subject and not mix in religion. I swear to God if I get roped in as a God is Not Dead 3 extra, Ima going to print out pages of snuff hentai and tape them all over the campus walls. 

Well I suppose it depends on the title, I mean what I want out of a protagonist in a nukige is completely different from moege. If I had a gun to my head I would probably pick arrogant/proactive someone who feels like an active player in the events taking place (sometimes even being the sole cause of the event) and not a bystander or a reactionary protagonist. 
If the gun is not involved I just have to say not the fucking god damn damn damn "Hero of Justice" fuckers. 

Well I suppose it depends on the title, I mean what I want out of a protagonist in a nukige is completely different from moege. If I had a gun to my head I would probably pick arrogant/proactive someone who feels like an active player in the events taking place (sometimes even being the sole cause of the event) and not a bystander or a reactionary protagonist. 
If the gun is not involved I just have to say not the fucking god damn damn damn "Hero of Justice" fuckers. 

Well I suppose it depends on the title, I mean what I want out of a protagonist in a nukige is completely different from moege. If I had a gun to my head I would probably pick arrogant/proactive someone who feels like an active player in the events taking place (sometimes even being the sole cause of the event) and not a bystander or a reactionary protagonist. 
If the gun is not involved I just have to say not the fucking god damn damn damn "Hero of Justice" fuckers. 

Well I suppose it depends on the title, I mean what I want out of a protagonist in a nukige is completely different from moege. If I had a gun to my head I would probably pick arrogant/proactive someone who feels like an active player in the events taking place (sometimes even being the sole cause of the event) and not a bystander or a reactionary protagonist. 
If the gun is not involved I just have to say not the fucking god damn damn damn "Hero of Justice" fuckers. 

Oh I had no illusions that this wouldn't get funded pathetically quickly, there are endless examples of games being successful simply because they have name recognition. 

That is really presumptuous, at least with Chrono Clock you could do some research and find out more information about the title before you spent money on that kickstarter. 
This screams we know you fucking swine will buy up anything that that has the Grisaia name on it, so you can give us all your money before you have a chance to be informed about the product. I feel like they should have waited until the first volume was released before they shoved a kickstarter out. If they are going to release the first two games not matter what I can only see that helping their kickstarter. 
This whole project feels really weird and maybe I'm just a cynical distrustful bastard, but I think I'll wait until I see some reviews before I throw any money on this thing.