krill Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 well its happened again except this time he also had a few real photos as well as anime images. this makes us all look bad, every time this happens being a anime fan becomes a lil more irritating to explain to people who don't get it, and involves more and more defending. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-05-04/nova-scotia-man-sentenced-to-90-days-for-child-porn-including-anime/.87812 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosebleed Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 he also had a few real photos as well as anime images. He's lucky for getting only 90 days over this and I think a lot of the problem really stems from the real pictures more so than it does from the anime ones. Canada seems really strict with lolicon so this doesn't surprise me at all, it's just a shame one case like this will just serve to strengthen the label that fans of the lolicon genre are pedophiles even more. Didn't know you could ban someone from the internet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinovaA Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Oh damn, that is really close to where I live. o-o Yeah he was really lucky to get off with only 90 days. Our government will kick you straight in the nuts if you are possessing stuff like that. This pisses me off though, because I know shit like this is the reason why people look down on anime fans as perverts and degenerates. This type of thing is what strengthens people's beliefs that anime fans are just a bunch of pedophiles. The fact that 3D was mixed in with the 2D makes matters even worse. Ah well. I've seen this type of thing happen a few other times, so it isn't really anything new. krill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainsismyfav Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Year 2012~ After I failed my biochemistry lab class (fall semester), my professor got arrested for child porn distribution from his office computer (apparently). He was such a great professor too.. The things people do, to destroy their career just like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosebleed Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I'm more bothered by the fact he was carrying it arround in a USB drive. One would think it's common sense not to carry material that's considered illegal in their own country on a USB drive that can be used by anyone. I sure as hell don't walk around with a portable porn folder that everybody can open and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulless Watcher Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 How do you "forget" your USB porn drive at a public area? I know it dosn't state specifically, but I can't think of any other way his USB drive would fall into the hands of a student. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 "although a few appear to be of real girls between five and 13 years old." 90 days is a fucking joke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinovaA Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 "although a few appear to be of real girls between five and 13 years old." 90 days is a fucking joke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosebleed Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Posession of child pornography has a whole different implication than distribution and production, and in court it's obvious he managed to convince the judge he "simply came across it" rather than "he was the creator of it and actively supports it", or so I am assuming, which likely contributed to the smaller jail time. Also he basically got his entire life conditioned now, so I don't know how "light" this can be considered, it's just light in terms of jail time really. It's the same thing with just posessing drugs versus selling drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulless Watcher Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Yeah he got off REALLY lucky. Like I don't know what the fuck they are doing over where he lives, but clearly they need to get their act together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nohman Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Am I the only one that thinks his punishment sounds just about right? It's not like he produced the images. Possession of child pornography should definitely be a criminal charge as he's helping create the market for it, but 90 days, sex offender status, and 2-year probation (with all the hoops and check ups you have to go through) seems pretty appropriate. I don't know how it is in Canada, but sex offender status in the US is pretty much a scarlet letter that makes sure you never have a good job and makes other everyday things more extremely complicated. sanahtlig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krill Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Am I the only one that thinks his punishment sounds just about right? It's not like he produced the images. Possession of child pornography should definitely be a criminal charge as he's helping create the market for it, but 90 days, sex offender status, and 2-year probation (with all the hoops and check ups you have to go through) seems pretty appropriate. I don't know how it is in Canada, but sex offender status in the US is pretty much a scarlet letter that makes sure you never have a good job and makes other everyday things more extremely complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 The guy was banned from the Internet. Possibly forever. That sounds like a fate worse than death. Narcosis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosebleed Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 It really sucks that you're labeled a sex offender when you didn't actively harm anyone though. Though in this case it involved real children so I'm by no means defending this guy in particular since he promoted real life child pornography by actively posessing it, but when I think that other 2D only related cases could likely still result in the "sex offender" label when you haven't harmed a single real human being, it's quite degrading. The guy was banned from the Internet. Possibly forever. That sounds like a fate worse than death. I have to agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidShu Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 The mental health thing is what really got me. The article doesn't seem to state he was obsessed over it (20 pictures most of which 2D). I understand the severity of it since he had actual children in some of those pictures but what if it was purely 2D? Would you still have to go to a mental health Dr.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Do you guys understand that even if he wasn't distributing the images he was watching them in a computer lab which it was also used by students? He wasn't doing it from his home... there is a big difference there. Also when the student found the pic you can say he was distributing them, how can you forget something like that? He got away too easy for what he did. "five and 13 years old" .... "Newcombe came across the images while searching for adult pornography online" You don't find pictures of 5-13 years old girls when you look for pornography you search them! krill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krill Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 Do you guys understand that even if he wasn't distributing the images he was watching them in a computer lab which it was also used by students? He wasn't doing it from his home... there is a big difference there. Also when the student found the pic you can say he was distributing them, how can you forget something like that? He got away too easy for what he did. "five and 13 years old" .... "Newcombe came across the images while searching for adult pornography online" You don't find pictures of 5-13 years old girls when you look for pornography you search them! i agree maybe in the early ninety's when search algorithms were new and you would end up at web archives of unlabeled image files. but that was a long time ago and chances of finding something like that just laying around a web searchable site is much much lower these days. and even so if he by some chance did come across them by accident he saved the images and put them on a portable memory device. the reason i posted this here isn't the outrage at him carrying around cp its that the anime images were included in the charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosebleed Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 i agree maybe in the early ninety's when search algorithms were new and you would end up at web archives of unlabeled image files. but that was a long time ago and chances of finding something like that just laying around a web searchable site is much much lower these days. and even so if he by some chance did come across them by accident he saved the images and put them on a portable memory device. the reason i posted this here isn't the outrage at him carrying around cp its that the anime images were included in the charges. Sadly, under Canadian law hentai is pretty much categorized as child pornography. And not even just lolis but simply depicting highschoolers can get you in jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 It's sad that hentai(of lolis) is compared or even categorized as child pornography, that tells you how absurd a law can be, i'm not talking about this particular case which clearly the guy is a pedo and was looking for child images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 even so if he by some chance did come across them by accident he saved the images and put them on a portable memory device. Not necessarily. It's quite possible he was using the stick as a portable OS / browser so he could synch his favorites and such across different computers (remember, this is an IT guy). It's possible and even likely that he downloaded the porn from a home PC (possibly forgetting that his browsing history was being saved and could get him in deep trouble if anyone ever inspected the drive). I'd be cautious about making assumptions based on the scarce facts we have in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krill Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 Not necessarily. It's quite possible he was using the stick as a portable OS / browser so he could synch his favorites and such across different computers (remember, this is an IT guy). It's possible and even likely that he downloaded the porn from a home PC. I'd be cautious about making assumptions based on the scarce facts we have in this case. and some one found the images so they aren't very secure for a "IT" guy. i mean come on even i can run a simple encryption program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosebleed Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 From the fact that he was only prosecuted for "posession" and not "distribution" you can infer a lot of things, at least it was proven in court that he wasn't carrying that stuff around with the intent of sharing it and this is something that wether you like it or not lessens jail time. On top of that from the explanation he gave he tried to go with the "I'm so regretful" route which again can decrease jail time if the judge deems it worthy. All in all I still think his punishment was fitting, his whole life has been pretty much conditioned and he'll never be able to live normally again no matter where he goes, I don't think that's much different from a prison to be honest. Also he's going to be attending therapy/counseling, which if he really is a person with pedophile tendencies is actually a much better solution than just shoving him in jail forever. Correction over punishment I'd say is what they were trying to go for here. In the end he'll never go near children again so I think that really addresses the issue more than anything else in his sentence. sarayne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I feel like discovery of child porn on a flash drive is probable cause to search the guy's home PC. They must have done this. Why isn't it mentioned in the article? Maybe because the search turned up nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmsful Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 So are we pedophiles? I didn't know u can get improsined for such stuffz in any country in the world... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 So are we pedophiles? I didn't know u can get improsined for such stuffz in any country in the world... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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