Tay Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 +Rep. This entire thread is a great read. Another excellent post, Clephas. Thank you. This reminds me of some classes I took on human and child/adolescent development. From what I remember, the vast majority of adolescents experience periods of perceived invulnerability (my professor called them "Hercules periods") where the adolescents believe they are above risk. This period is often accompanied by completely normal teen self-centeredness, which results in "hero" complexes of varying intensity. This is the reason why the Japanese stuck 'byou' onto the end of the word, which has the same kanji as the one for disease, lol. ^ I laughed out loud. Every now and then I find myself thinking that the Japanese have found very healthy and wickedly witty ways of dealing with things like this. I also loved your comment about people getting addicted to Fantasy/Sci-Fi during the "hero complex" periods. I can't speak for anyone else, but that was true for me. ; ) (Link above was to an interesting 1993 study which attempted to discredit the idea of "Hercules periods" in adolescents; yet, despite this and other similar studies, every class I took on cognitive development suggested that the invulnerable/self-centered periods Clephas referred to are widespread and real.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikiSanic Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I can personally attest to the "hero complex". When I was younger I was convinced I was an alien living amongst people until the start of an eventual all-out war. I had all kinds of fantasies where I was this unstoppable force and basically saved the planet with my powers alone. I always felt proud because I knew I was better than everyone else around me but no one else was aware. I'm not really sure why I went through this phase myself, maybe it was because of a lack of attention or it was because I wanted to feel special. I guess you could say that I had an actual case of chuunibyou. Even though I am much older now and I don't believe in silly illusions anymore I still desire what having a hero complex gives you. In a way, playing these types of VN allows me to experience someone else living a fantasy, which would be impossible for me. It's kind of interesting how much I haven't really changed. I didn't get to say this yesterday but thanks for this thread. These discussions have been very interesting to mull over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukiru Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Well, i've never had thoughts like "i am far superior to others, therefore i'll become a hero" but i did have thoughts like "i can't stand this world anymore, even if i am nothing more than a regular kid i won't allow this to go on" i even had a few plans to change the world. I was at my full chuu2 back then and my nickname comes from that phase of my life, i probably entered that phase around the time i watched Code Geass and it ended after some RL events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clephas Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Probably the most familiar chuuni visual media in the west is Star Wars... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukiru Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Probably the most familiar chuuni visual media in the west is Star Wars... Not quite, DC Comics and Marvel series are better known imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clephas Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Not really... Nowadays more people know about Star Wars than know Superman or Green Lantern. If you'd said that fifteen years ago, I might have agreed, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazel-Bun Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Oh this is pretty interesting! I never really thought about it but I'm also a fan of this newly discovered genre on my part. Code Geass (for example) always gave me this strange feeling like Lelouch could eaisly be the kid in the hallway that spoke pretentiously and commented in how he was above the world in real life... and it was/is fun to see in a twisted kind of way how they get a wake up call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clephas Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 I liked Code Geass because Lelouch went through with things right to the end. The story as a whole was only truly great because of how it ended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolverk Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Reading this thread made me realise I totally love Chuni, dammit lol xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalor Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I like this genre a lot, but I also have slightly mixed feelings towards it as well. On the one hand it's very interesting and a lot of Chunni stories are very fun to experience and do tackle deep themes, but on the other hand I feel in their over the top nature they are also lacking something. For example, Code Geass and Death Note were great fun for me, and I would rate Code Geass an 8, and Death Note a 8.5 - 9. However, stories that feel eerily realistic, and that can address dark themes through metaphor and allegory I value a bit more. Naoki Urasawa's Monster, Kaiji, and Berserk I would rate in the 9.5 - 10. I am using anime examples as I'm not as well read in VNs since I don't know Japanese. Also me rating Code Geass an 8 is not bad, I'm a hard grader when it comes to fiction. An 8 for a lot of other people can easily rank a 5 for me. What I'm trying to say is that Chunni stories are good and I like them, but I think they also have their limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahfuu Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I think this is an extremely weird definition of chuuni. Are you really saying that Shin Koihime Musou, Inganock and Grisaia are all under the same genre? The only prerequesits seem to be 'be in a fantasy/psuedo-realistic setting' and 'have fight scenes' which is way too broad. Chu2 elements and pieces in a story don't automatically turn the whole work Chu2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerathim Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 A very complete list! I'm interested in Eien No Aselia but it looks like it has gameplay of some sort, does it have much importance? I'm not really fond of gameplay in VN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord Rooke Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I'm interested in Eien No Aselia but it looks like it has gameplay of some sort, does it have much importance? I'm not really fond of gameplay in VN. JAST promotes Aselia as an "epic RPG", which should give a clue regarding how much gameplay is involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clephas Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 It does have a lot of fighting... but if you don't feel like screwing with that, just use a complete save at lvl 99 and do the lowest difficulty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerathim Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 If it's classified as an "epic RPG", I can give it shot. I was scared to find a half-assed gameplay which mixes poorly with the story but if it's the other way around why not? And yes, at worst I can use a complete save. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clephas Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 updated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joehawks12 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 should update this list. bumping to the top of the message board for those with chuunibyou such as myself. Edit: well you could put in two ikusa megami games in the translated section (tenbin la dea, ikusa megami zero) as they're being worked on right now, both are only partials or machine translated, though monkey poop is better than machine translations, so i'd leave out la dea for now.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clephas Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 Problem is, there is nothing to update it with that is worth mentioning... I'd almost say the Baldr games I played recently, but they don't quite fit... Edit: New chuuni games generally only get released by a list of about seven different companies, with others occasionally making contributions. Nitroplus (though they haven't made anything decent in this genre since Muramasa), Light, Akatsuki Works, 3rdEye (though their games are pretty hit and miss), Propeller (though their last two games sucked), Rosebleu (for Tiny Dungeon), and Eushully (for Ikusa Megami). Basically, these you can expect to produce games in this genre on occasion... but most others are just random entries by random companies that are usually mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decay Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 If Type-Moon released VNs more often than every 5 years we'd have them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawasumi Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Sorry for ressurecting this thread but. Clephas, you were talking about that 3rdeye stuff were pretty hit and miss, what game(s) would you recommend from them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clephas Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Shinigami no Testament is good, if you don't mind 'light' chuuni... and Gensou no Idea is decent if you don't mind multiple protagonists and a single ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawasumi Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 soo, bloody rondo is out of the question? it sounds kinda cheesy plotwise but Im getting drawn to the "proactive protagonist" tag (pussy protag IN MY VNS!? hell naw). Gensou no idea looks most appealing to me actually, because of the multiple protag thing (mostly because I havent seen it a lot in other VNs). Well this is a chunni thread after all so I actually am searching for kinda chuuni heavy stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clephas Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Bloody Rondo's problem is that the main heroine is a total idiot/airhead of a True Ancestor vampire... Her route is the most complete, but she herself is a bit disappointing. The werewolf girl's is good for kicks (weird relationship) and some of the others are decent, but Bloody Rondo is just one of those cases of a VN where a heroine feels out of place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawasumi Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 ah I get it. Okay then, guess I'll save that for last then and consider playing it if I like the others. Also the new VN that they are gonna release in a week looks promising as well btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clephas Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 You should still play Bloody Rondo before Gensou no Idea... because Luna and the protagonist's descendents play a central role in the plot, though they aren't protagonists or heroines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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