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I don't think I've ever laughed as much as I did watching anime than when I watched Lovely * Complex

Other girls are interested in him but it's very much about a couple.

Say I love you for drama - an 8/10 for me Rakudai Kishi for fantasy - a 10/10 for me

What do you value most? They're all quite different in terms of their primary material. Is it romance? The MC? Other story line? Comedy? Drama? Fantasy? Battles? They all cover a range of things, but all have strong romance focus.

After attempting to play Fruit of Grisaia and failing miserably, I've started playing the very light and fluffy moege offering from Purple Soft, Chronoclock, which many say is their least interesting game. Unsurprisingly I'm enjoying it 1000x more than Grisaia so far. It's easy to see what I play VNs for, and I should stick to what I know works...

Late at night... once the rest of the family is in bed.

Oh dear, someone with exactly the same experience as me then. Looks like it wasn't necessarily the fact it was a heavy drama novel after all responsible. It was the shift in tone and execution at fault. If you went in expecting nothing but drama (and enjoyed or preferred that) then it probably would have been fine. Looks like I'm relegated to only playing charage and moege for the rest of my life, and that doesn't bother me one bit. Might even be good news for people who want stuff like that translated that other translators are not interested in tackling, as I might.

These all fit your criteria and are select watches too, above average Say I Love You AKA Sukitte Ii Na Yo My Love Story AKA Ore Monogatari Lovely * Complex Chivalry of a Failed Knight AKA Rakudai Kishi no Eiyuutan Boarding School Juliet Golden Time His and Her Circumstances AKA Karekano ItaKiss Snow White with the Red Hair

Too late for what? To tell me happy birthday, or that I died of old age? Safe on both counts

Thanks guys!

For what it's worth, I did find the comedy amusing, chuckling out loud when it was there, but it was pretty rare and got rarer as the story went on. Perhaps that's why I survived the common route despite its absurd length; it was more slice-of-life and character development and less melodrama and tragedy.

So after playing VNs for 20 years with heavy emphasis on moege and charage, I finally gave in and purchased Fruit of Grisaia after being told by so many people how good it is in terms of story, writing and how solid the localisation is. The first thing that struck me is the game is wordy... long.. I mean real fucking long. Huge passages are spent on exposition with lots of what the MC is thinking, his take on the world at large, plenty of backstory that continually fills in as you progress and how it fits in with the route as you're playing it. The writing is solid indeed and thought provoking. The heroines are all reasonably interesting, though after having played so many VNs, there was nothing new in their personalities I hadn't seen before. The localisation is indeed solid; on my rating it almost reaches a 9/10. The only reason I wouldn't give it a 9 is that I know enough Japanese to see certain less than ideal choices in translation though none of them are massive fails, and all nuance was captured, so it's easily an 8.5 (This is my localisation rating, not my rating for the game itself.) So I planned to start out with Makina's route since she was the least appealing heroine to me (I always go from least to most favourite heroine) but it took forever to get past the common route. It went on and on and on. I struggled to read much every night as it would make me sleepy after an hour or so of reading close to the end of the night. This was a bad sign for me. Anyway I soldiered on because of all its redeeming features and finally branched into Makina's route. I kept reading and reading and reading and waiting for that moment where it grabbed me and I simply couldn't let go of the story. 3/4 of the way through Makina's route, and many sleeps interrupting the story later, it never happened... I realised I'd lost the fight. I just didn't care about what was happening, found the endless tirade from the MC tiring to read, and didn't warm to anyone or anything. I starting mashing the ctrl key during the MC's thoughts, and then randomly through what looked less interesting. I got tired of the endless strategy scenes. Finally I gave up and mashed ctrl to the end of the route to at least see the end, which I didn't like. Since I liked the other girls much more, I then downloaded a full save game to check out the H scenes of the other heroines, some of which were pretty appealing, but not enough for me to wade through another trillion lines of story to get through, and I was mad at myself for paying money for a localisation that had not been decensored. The only thing I could think of by the end was the translator Koestl deserves a medal for translating so much fucking text, though if he actually enjoyed the game I could see how he managed to do it. Sorry guys, I failed. I'm still only interested in charage and moege with significant romance as the primary part of the story. I'm just too old to get excited by dark themes and bad shit happening to people. I lived through gen X and depressing us as teenagers was like shooting fish in a barrel. Most of us got over it. As a middle aged man I've seen more than my fair share of actual bad shit happen to people I love and care about, and I only want mild drama and then serious happy escapism as my reward.

Hmm I seriously need to rewatch it. I haven't watched it since it first aired and don't remember much except it being insane and enjoying it.

Added "Say I Love You" AKA Sukitte Ii Na Yo.

I watched Sukitte Ii Na yo - Say I love you. This was a little gem of a romance that somehow had flown under my radar till now. It was clearly shoujo romance which seems to always be more satisfying than anything written for boys. The latter half wasn't quite as good as the first half, with lots of convenient stereotypical resolutions to the various dramas but it was still a delight to watch and ultimately satisfying. 8/10

Yes, but as a software engineer myself, I can tell you an AI capable of that is still decades away if not over a century...

Yes there is just one right answer, and that answer is NOT machine anything translation if you don't know any Japanese.

When one works too hard to ensure all routes are of equal length then one ends up padding certain routes with crap. On the other hand, all H scenes are the same so it's easy to give each heroine exactly the same number of scenes, but I'm quite happy with allowing a little flexibility with both.

I exclusively play VNs on linux with wine. They often need something slightly different to get going and having different wineprefixes helps. Most of the problems are usually to do with those stupid mpeg1 videos most of them use. Very very rarely you simply cannot get it working with any combination of things under wine, and then I run it on a windows virtual machine under linux. The vast majority work though. If you need suggestions, just ask.

Two. One long VN and one nukige. The nukige is in case I haven't reached any H scenes in the long VN yet and need my hit.

OPM bored me stupid and I gave up without finishing the series. Again the author hates his protagonist so that even though he's more powerful than anyone and will never lose any battles, he gets treated like dirt continuously. That part of the joke really grates for me, and it's the major premise for its comedy.

It's a brilliant series, but save a box of tissues for later on...

As I discussed in the translation quality cutoff thread:

I need at least one H scene per day, preferably at the end of the day. If I don't encounter one while playing a current VN, I pull out an H scene replay out of one of my previous favourites to finish the night off.

Is the official translation based on your fantl, or original?