Plk_Lesiak

Thank you for putting it in list form reading Cracked articles from back in the day has conditioned me to only be able to read anything that way
I think a lot of these problems are present in other types of visual novels as well
Yuri vn's, manga, and anime mostly seem to occur in a world that has either killed off it's male population or sentenced women to a lifetime of sex segregation.
In hetero vn's we hardly ever get to see the dudes face during the sex scene the most we can get is some disembodied male torso. The few times we do get to see the dudes face it looks like he has had his eyeballs removed and sewn shut.
As a side note I was legitimately shocked when I read a yuri manga called Prism that actually had a side character who was bisexual
Condoms just don't exist in Japan Maggie, along with STDs and unwanted pregnancies

OK... So, from the lack of ideas for a more substantive comment... Where's that pic from (the "everyone's bi" one)?

The game is Fukai ni Nemuru Oujo no Abaddon. Yeah, I'll keep praising this game in the forums forever, because it's the one true bi game I needed! Party have six characters, all of them are bi.
 
As someone who also played DMMD and TnC, the only one I truly agrees is Motomi. Koujaku only "played around with girls" as he and even Aoba said, he didn't really cared for them. I think the same can be said for Noiz, he didn't cared for anyone at all before. As for Mink and Mizuki, I can't remember them ever as much as mentioning girls, is it a fandisc/light novel/drama CD thing?

Yeah it's definitely worth taking your time and really enjoying it. Well for me I appreciate that there are VN's that treat gay relationships the way that straight relationships are treated. Like no big deal. Actually, a lot of yuri stuff deal with a overflow of uncertainty. I don't know how many times I've heard the lines "I can't love kiss/fall in love with a girl." If you want something Yuri that deals with rl social stigma I would check out the manga Prism by Higashiyama Shou.

Good review! My impressions of this game quite match yours! Except my favorite is Asuka or Sakuya, hard to decide!
Hmmmm, yeah, I think it's changing a bit. Slooooowly, but it's a bit better than it was some years back. In VN not so much, but in manga the difference is clearly there. Uncertainty is pretty common nowadays (a bit too much in fact, characters have way too much of a hard time to admit it sometimes, even to their love interest damn), but social stigma is a bit less used. And maybe I'm too soft, but I kinda likes when it's as natural as in Nurse Love? I just want my girls to be happy with no judging eyes, it's unrealistic but one can dream right?

While this is true for a decent amount of yurige, it is not always the case. It just so happens that a lot of the TLed yurige falls into that category.
The game I'm currently TLing, for instance, deals pretty heavily with this issue. (Tsui Yuri. The TL is done, but we're dealing with some other stuff atm. Hoping to release it sometime in 2018, though, so keep your eyes out for that if you want a yuri game that deals with more realistic issues surrounding the yuri romance aspect. )

Hahahahahahaha I just said I don't remember many female seiyuus and you had to bring up the one that I always remember and love  Kana Hanaaaaaa! <3 But yeah, the first one is the best one!

Oooohhh, I think it's a huge issue with all seiyuus - it's hard to express how happy I am when the female cast sounds like actual human beings in a JP VN or anime series. This goes to singing too, you can just contrast Kana Hanazawa singing with a somewhat natural voice and Kana Hanazawa impersonating a mouse. With all respect to all those liking Renai Circulation, I definitely prefer VAs not overdoing stuff.

Any discussion is welcome!   But yeah, I also love the ones that can sing too! But with male actors (maybe with female ones too, but I don't remember a whole lot of them, easy to imagine why XD) there's some problems that... I think sometimes they edit too much their singing for them to appear younger and more "ikemen-like" if that makes sense. Let the dudes be more natural, I surely love when they sound more mature! Most of my favorites are beyond 30s or even 40s, they don't need to sound like teenagers...

I know it's slightly beside the point, but it's also mentioned in a way when it comes to character CDs...
I'm always amazed by how many seiyuus are also competent singers. I don't get obsessed with voice actors (well, especially male ones, it's easy to imagine why), but a voice actress that's good at her main job and sings well will usually get me (moderately) excited. I guess I have a thing for people with multiple talents, probably because of how much I lack any artistic abilities whatsoever...

I actually thought the music was quite charming. Certain tracks were associated to certain families or themes, and I really got to know them over time.
Despite my enjoyment of both this game and the sequel having been on more or less the same level when I played them, I can say the sequel left a much deeper impression on me than this one.

I'm sorry I'm the one to tell you that... But... The Heart is not actually an icon. It's just a background element.
I know things will never be the same now that you've learned the truth, but I hope you'll find the strength to forgive the Heart, and maybe even love it again one day. It never wanted to hurt you.

WHY IS THE TEXT OVERRIDING THE HEART ICON

Only when prose operates on strict usage of honorifics to address people and create a setting, it won't make much of a difference otherwise. Don't be a weeb.

I presume the best possible result can be achieved through:
Translating, while maintaining a healthy balance between literal and liberal, when required. Doing at least two TLC runs through the entire script. First one should remove the most obvious errors and mistakes, while second one should aim to fix the translated sentences. Editing to improve the general flow, readability and quality of the english translated text. Skip any of these or half-ass them and you'll get a monstrosity of an english TL in the kinds of SP's late translation attempts or Hikari Field's level of translation "quality".
Editors should never fix the translator's mistakes. Their job is to turn the translator's garble into a Shakespeare's level of prose. Likewise, it's not the translator's job to instantly turn their translations into coherent and readable english prose. It's fine, if they can, but most of the times - they can't and really shouldn't even try, for their own sake. This is why professional game localizations are always a team attempt in the first place.

That is a problem... but not the primary one.  Most raw translators tend to get latched onto the Japanese sentence structure and try to recreate sentences that are grammatically impossible in English.  Those sentences tend to make a lot of sense to the translator at the time, but anyone else (or even the translator himself, going back later on) will probably have trouble figuring out what it was.  Tunnel vision is endemic to raw translators in general, whether professional or fan.

I still like the original game for what it is. I'm not really interested in pushing the story further by getting the main game. It's like they did a sequel to Within Without with high production values and expanded playtime -what gives?

I liked the original "Carpe diem". The gimmick seemed interesting to me, it was like a very mini-mini-MINI DDLC-before-DDLC. Though DDLC has had a much bigger impact, obviously, as the gimmick is better.
Funny thing, I played both Carpe diem and DDLC almost on release.

Overall, a decent review, though there are parts I disagree with, naturally. As already pointed out, the pink blood fits in with the theme of the game a lot better than "real" blood would have. Its kind of an inherently... "silly" game, in a sense. There are plenty of serious times in the story, but it all happens in the context of a very alien world. I also don't think its bad to leave things unexplained in a story like this. Lots of stories, VNs and stories in other mediums alike, try unnecessarily hard to try and explain everything, even when that's not entirely desirable for the type of story it is, or when it gets in the way of actually telling the story itself.
Of course, there was a sort of earlier iteration for this game, called Distrust*, that would have been a lot more gruesome (apparently, it was scrapped because it was TOO gruesome). It was essentially the same game, but it had things like red blood and such. If this form of the game was the one the was ultimately released, then the theme would have been quite different. Perhaps not for the worse, and I think it would be kind of interesting if someone released an attempt at making that a full game, if for no other reason than to contrast the experience with Danganronpa.
*There's a page on this on the Danganronpa wikia. Search something like "Danganronpa Beta" in your favorite search engine to find it, if you wanna read some details on it.

Does not like pink blood. 0/10 Review. Doesn't get the "essence" of the game.

Aaah, I see! I really need to read Kindred Spirits, seems like a lovely game, it's on my backlog since forever...
^This, a hundred times over.
Oh, thank you so much for such detailed response! I'll be more careful!

Well, I simply think this term is used in a way that makes it lose any real meaning - it's better to simply avoid it unless for really clear-cut cases (that is, when you have an erotic plot with an adult and a pre-puberty child, like this SonoHana game for example). A romance between an adult and an older teenager might be "illegal" by our standards but doesn't have to appeal to pedophiles or be targeted towards them. And not every case of child rape or child molestation is connected to pedophilia whatsoever. So, when you use this term for broad generalizations, you'll more likely than not miss the point - it's not criticism, as I see it done everywhere and it's hard to really see through the misconception unless you deal with the topic in some more or less systematic ways (as both my master's thesis and my PhD project are primarily in porn studies, the discussion about pedophilia and child porn is something I've gone through dozens of times).

Since you want, seme and uke comes from martial arts terms, taken from the verbs "to attack" and "to receive". Seke is just a portmanteau, to describe a character that goes both roles.

Hey, thanks for the input! I really... struggled with this word while writing, should I use, should I not? Like I said, I never saw a manga that with huge age gaps in yuri, so I didn't even have an example to check. I have limited knowledge in the field, so if you think it was inappropriate, please do tell me!