Zalor Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 But if moege are not for you, then suck it up. You have to learn to walk before you can learn to run. I'm definitely in this camp of people... That said for precisely the logic you gave (you have to learn to walk before you can run) I've been looking for some moege's to start reading. My only criticism is that I wish that you could provide a list of moege's that you think are best for beginners. I don't care whether the VN is boring, good or bad, I just want something to help me improve my reading of Japanese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnerific Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I'm definitely in this camp of people... That said for precisely the logic you gave (you have to learn to walk before you can run) I've been looking for some moege's to start reading. My only criticism is that I wish that you could provide a list of moege's that you think are best for beginners. I don't care whether the VN is boring, good or bad, I just want something to help me improve my reading of Japanese. If you want my advice I'm currently reading Haruka Kanata and the text is easier than with the charage I tried before. It is unhookable, however - a weird engine or something, ITH just doesn't read it properly - so it's only recommended if you're drawn to the game. Zalor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcosis Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 This topic preety much sums up the experiences of an average western reader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cythnar Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Came here for the foreplay. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamitamales Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I'm definitely in this camp of people... That said for precisely the logic you gave (you have to learn to walk before you can run) I've been looking for some moege's to start reading. My only criticism is that I wish that you could provide a list of moege's that you think are best for beginners. I don't care whether the VN is boring, good or bad, I just want something to help me improve my reading of Japanese. A lot of yuri games have voiced protagonists, so you could start with those. Any Sono Hanabira game Hitori / Futari no Qualia Lilium x Triangle I also recommend MeltyMoment & Lover Able. Both are pretty much straight charage. Zalor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astro Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Oh god I was drunk when I made this thread Narcosis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakamutt Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 ^ the no shit is real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katatsumuri Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Oh god I was drunk when I made this thread I'm not sure if this explains everything, or if it explains nothing at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christfall Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Nice effort and guide there. It should be a good start for people into moege character stereotypes. However I beg to differ with your description of tsundere there : "violence" does NOT define tsundere, but just one (minor) trait that some tsundere might have. It should not be categorized as a general tsundere trait. In fact, tsundere that are abusive/beats you up kind is actually a lot rarer than non-abusive ones. They are more common in anime though but definitely less in VN. I am saying this due to my almost 5 years of playing VN the amount of abusive tsundere can be counted on 1 hand, out of like 60 games (with 90% of them containing at least 1 tsundere) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakamutt Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I think in translated VNs the amount of violent tsundere is pretty high though... the level of violence does change though Examples off the top of my head are Komomo from Hoshimemo, Lucia from Rewrite, and Reo from sonohana 3 Lookign at my VNDB list, there's Kyou from CLANNAD, Makoto from Kanon (somewhat arguable given that it's mostly tricks, but still she intends to cause bodily harm)... I think about half the VNs I've read with a tsundere in it have that violent side to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephisto Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I don't think it's particularly common either to be honest. In most of the games I play, the protagonist is the tsundere . Really depends where you place the line though. Aoko hits you once and knocks you out, but I still wouldn't put her in the body violent tsundere category to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astro Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 Nice effort and guide there. It should be a good start for people into moege character stereotypes. However I beg to differ with your description of tsundere there : "violence" does NOT define tsundere, but just one (minor) trait that some tsundere might have. It should not be categorized as a general tsundere trait. In fact, tsundere that are abusive/beats you up kind is actually a lot rarer than non-abusive ones. They are more common in anime though but definitely less in VN. I am saying this due to my almost 5 years of playing VN the amount of abusive tsundere can be counted on 1 hand, out of like 60 games (with 90% of them containing at least 1 tsundere) "When their embarrassment-meter is at 100%, they will either act cold towards you, or, as stated before, beat you up on the spot." It's strange what a bit of reading can do for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astro Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Four months later, I am here to tell everyone who took this guide seriously that it was all a joke. The end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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