Babymagnum12 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) Hey everyone, i'm currently doing a project in University focusing on Visual Novels and would like to gather the communities thoughts through a small survey, would it be possible for anyone with some time to answer a few questions at this link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/CCLRN2L. This would help me greatly and to give something back to the community for taking the survey, I plan on posting the findings at a later date to show what I found and to also help anyone else who wishes to gather similar findings in the future.Thank you in advance! Edited November 16, 2015 by Babymagnum12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I think more questions are needed in that survey, regarding: eroge, voice acting, types of vns or things concerning lolis, incest etcI mean there are so many interesting things to ask but oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novel21 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I have done that survey and The survey was very intressing, you did very good work with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashetania Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 "What is your age?"Under 18 or 19-25...TFW no 18 option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalRen Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 The last question is interesting. I would still say yes seeing as Japan classifies them as PC games, hence the idea behind being a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuko Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 The last question is interesting. I would still say yes seeing as Japan classifies them as PC games, hence the idea behind being a game.But is video game = PC game : O ?? Life's biggest mystery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebhra Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Filled, you are welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxel Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Hmm all famous VN's on KS are tagged as Video Games, so...Muv-Luv ClannadGrisaia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okami Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I think that VNs are closer to books/novels then they are to games with exception of VN-JRPG hybrids, I myself don't label them as games at all. Also this question : What Visual Novel is your favourite/most likely to recommend? I wasn't sure how to answer as the two are different for me, my num 1 favorite is Eien no Aselia -The Spirit of Eternity Sword- but as it has some gameplay I am more likely to recommend some of my other favorite VNs. kingdomcome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babymagnum12 Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 "What is your age?"Under 18 or 19-25...TFW no 1 option.I meant to put that as 18 and under XD thanks for mentioning this, ill fix it right away!I think more questions are needed in that survey, regarding: eroge, voice acting, types of vns or things concerning lolis, incest etcI mean there are so many interesting things to ask but oh well I wish I could have put more questions in involving that content, but alas survey monkey only allows free members a total of 10 questions. I may create another one regarding these points if enough people think that I should.I think that VNs are closer to books/novels then they are to games with exception of VN-JRPG hybrids, I myself don't label them as games at all. Also this question : What Visual Novel is your favourite/most likely to recommend? I wasn't sure how to answer as the two are different for me, my num 1 favorite is Eien no Aselia -The Spirit of Eternity Sword- but as it has some gameplay I am more likely to recommend some of my other favorite VNs.I did think this question might bring up that issue, it was more because I don't have a single favorite myself so anybody stuck at labeling a favorite could put one they would recommend. I will think of a way to reword this. Thank you all for taking the time and for your feedback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I consider VNs to be PC games, a subset of video games. They're consumed on a gaming platform, use game engines, are sold alongside other games, combine text with graphics and music, and most have some degree of interactivity. The only other non-gaming media that comes to mind that fits most of these parameters is web browsing (which isn't sold alongside other games unless they're web games). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okami Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I consider VNs to be PC games, a subset of video games. They're consumed on a gaming platform, use game engines, are sold alongside other games, combine text with graphics and music, and most have some degree of interactivity. The only other non-gaming media that comes to mind that fits most of these parameters is web browsing (which isn't sold alongside other games unless they're web games).But isn't the important part that games are something you play while VNs are something you read? That is a huge difference there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I consider VNs to be PC games, a subset of video games. They're consumed on a gaming platform, use game engines, are sold alongside other games, combine text with graphics and music, and most have some degree of interactivity. The only other non-gaming media that comes to mind that fits most of these parameters is web browsing (which isn't sold alongside other games unless they're web games).But isn't the important part that games are something you play while VNs are something you read? That is a huge difference there. Define "play". Gibberish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okami Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I consider VNs to be PC games, a subset of video games. They're consumed on a gaming platform, use game engines, are sold alongside other games, combine text with graphics and music, and most have some degree of interactivity. The only other non-gaming media that comes to mind that fits most of these parameters is web browsing (which isn't sold alongside other games unless they're web games).But isn't the important part that games are something you play while VNs are something you read? That is a huge difference there. Define "play".Isn't that obvois, has a gameplay. You seem to be more focusing on how VNs and games are made rather then how they are supoust to be used/enjoyed, if you look at that then media such as books and novels are far more simmilar to VNs then games and the only simmilarity between VNs and games really is that they are both digital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanahtlig Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 But what exactly is gameplay? What's the minimum requirement to be considered a game by this standard? What about VNs with gameplay? What about VNs with minimal gameplay? What about VNs with highly branching storylines, timed choices, or mini-games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okami Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 But what exactly is gameplay? What's the minimum requirement to be considered a game by this standard? What about VNs with gameplay? What about VNs with minimal gameplay? What about VNs with highly branching storylines, timed choices, or mini-games?Well I did say that VN-JRPG hybrids are exception. As for what a gameplay is well it is easier to say what it isn't and reading a bunch of text and making a few choises definitely isn't, infact there are even some actual "make your own story" types of books that have choices, so just because they get visual and sound elements and become digital dosen't transform them into game. Sure because they are digital they are bound to have some simmilaities with games but they are far to different from games to be counted as ones. And in fact the way to tell a difference between VN with gameplay and JRPG with an VN elements can also be used to prove the difference between games and VNs, and that is whatewher that app is ment to be read or played and what is a main focus if it has both. While definition of playing could be debatable it definitely isn't reading a story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I think that if there is not some kind of challenge involve then you cannot say that there is actual gameplay thus is not a proper "video game", is clicking on the screen until the novel is over gameplay? I don't think so but choosing the right choices to avoid bad endings? That could be consider as gameplay because there is an actual challenge that you need to surpass.So maybe inside vns itself you have some that can be consider as video games and others not, like linear or kinectic ones and others with a lot of branching and choices like f/sn.@Babymagnum12 that's too bad, I think you can create surveys with google which don't have any limitations and they are free to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minuore Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Interesting. At least it is short and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babymagnum12 Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 @Babymagnum12 that's too bad, I think you can create surveys with google which don't have any limitations and they are free to use.I'll have to have a look into that, sounds like its a lot more useful than survey monkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebjula Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Interesting survey, good luck with your project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babymagnum12 Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 Interesting survey, good luck with your project.Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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