Mangagamer 2016 Licensing Survey

[Deep Blue]

if you are not happy with the games that mangagamer is going to translate(or even then ones that were picked in the survey) then learn japanese, is getting a bit old already I know but anything will take at least 2 years if not more to translate and in that time you can already learn japanese and read it yourself!

[VirginSmasher]

2 minutes ago, Deep Blue said:

if you are not happy with the games that mangagamer is going to translate(or even then ones that were picked in the survey) then learn japanese, is getting a bit old already I know but anything will take at least 2 years if not more to translate and in that time you can already learn japanese and read it yourself!

If people are gonna complain about it, then at least attempt to learn Japanese and if you can't, then you might as well accept the fact that not everything people want is gonna get translated. There are other factors present to localization than just what the fans want.

[Deep Blue]

Just now, VirginSmasher said:

If people are gonna complain about it, then at least attempt to learn Japanese and if you can't, then you might as well accept the fact that not everything people want is gonna get translated. There are other factors present to localization than just what the fans want.

well the thing is everyone can learn it, yes everyone! So there are no excuses, if you really want something in this life you have to work your ass off, there are no easy solutions (well official translation are a bit of that  )

[Scorp]

There is always another option. Earn a lot of money (something about 600000 USD) and hire a translator to translate a game exclusively for yourself.

You can also try to get a license from game authors (and this would be +- same amount of money) and actually sell the game and gain profit. Choice is yours.

[VirginSmasher]

Just now, Deep Blue said:

well the thing is everyone can learn it, yes everyone! So there are no excuses, if you really want something in this life you have to work your ass off, there are no easy solutions (well official translation are a bit of that  )

Yeah. You just have to have enough motivation to learn and practice a lot of grammar concepts, vocabulary, and of course, Kanji. If you really want to read a certain VN, don't wait for it to be translated because the likely outcome is it won't happen and if it does, it's not gonna happen within the period of time you could have gotten really good at reading Japanese.

[Deep Blue]

3 hours ago, Scorp said:

There is always another option. Earn a lot of money (something about 600000 USD) and hire a translator to translate a game exclusively for yourself.

You can also try to get a license from game authors (and this would be +- same amount of money) and actually sell the game and gain profit. Choice is yours.

if you have that amount of money why not just create your own vn with a dream team of your choice? I mean if you have 600000 to spend in some translation you have a lot more money than that.  

3 hours ago, VirginSmasher said:

Yeah. You just have to have enough motivation to learn and practice a lot of grammar concepts, vocabulary, and of course, Kanji. If you really want to read a certain VN, don't wait for it to be translated because the likely outcome is it won't happen and if it does, it's not gonna happen within the period of time you could have gotten really good at reading Japanese.

Learning Japanese or any other language is just motivation like you said, dedication and time, lots and lots of time, that's the trick  

[VirginSmasher]

Just now, Deep Blue said:

if you have that amount of money why not just create your own vn with a dream team of your choice? I mean if you have 600000 to spend in some translation you have a lot more money than that.  

Learning Japanese or any other language is just motivation like you said, dedication and time, lots and lots of time, that's the trick  

Also, 600000 dollars would get you more than just one translation.

I wish I could study Japanese right now, but school and english backlog are killing me currently so I don't think I'll be onto learning Japanese until I get a long break and don't have any english backlog to worry about.

[Deep Blue]

Just now, VirginSmasher said:

Also, 600000 dollars would get you more than just one translation.

I wish I could study Japanese right now, but school and english backlog are killing me currently so I don't think I'll be onto learning Japanese until I get a long break and don't have any english backlog to worry about.

you can start studying a few things, for example memorize 5 words per day (which I don't think can't take more than 10-15 min at best) by the time you really start learning it will be of great help.

[VirginSmasher]

Just now, Deep Blue said:

you can start studying a few things, for example memorize 5 words per day (which I don't think can't take more than 10-15 min at best) by the time you really start learning it will be of great help.

I don't think I can this week because of all the work I already have to do today, but when Spring Break comes around, I'll try it out. Everybody else that I've talked to says that learning the grammar should come first and then when you're reading your first VN, you will pick up words on your own.

[Deep Blue]

14 minutes ago, VirginSmasher said:

I don't think I can this week because of all the work I already have to do today, but when Spring Break comes around, I'll try it out. Everybody else that I've talked to says that learning the grammar should come first and then when you're reading your first VN, you will pick up words on your own.

learning grammar without N5 vocab at least is something really hard to do and counterproductive, just a silly example, let's learn the particle "no" and "to", VirginSmasheの犬と猫 oh yeah look at them I see the のand と there! but wait, what the heck is 犬 and 猫... what I'm I learning?, this again is something ultra simple and basic, you cannot learn word by word and study at the same time, can you learn english grammar without knowing what the words you are using mean? imo knowing a base vocab is a must before learning grammar.

[VirginSmasher]

5 minutes ago, Deep Blue said:

learning grammar without N5 vocab at least is something really hard to do and counterproductive, just a silly example, let's learn the particle "no" and "to", VirginSmasheの犬と猫 oh yeah look at them I see the のand と there! but wait, what the heck is 犬 and 猫... what I'm I learning?, this again is some ultra simple, you cannot learn word by word and study at the same time, can you learn english grammar without knowing what the words you are using mean? imo knowing a base vocab is a must before learning grammar.

I see. I'll have to start learning some vocab then.

[littleshogun]

Long time not to see this thread, but since I promised to tell my opinion about the result of vote, and it's only one day before announcement anyway so let me write my opinion here. Note that it was only reflect to my opinion, so the statement may not 100% accurate, although it may possible to speculate what game may be announce from polling result though (It may be wrong once again).

1. Rance Series - If Mangagamer really want to release Rance series, maybe they'll start from Sengoku Rance (Already translated, loved and discussed to the death). Otherwise Rance VI may be possible considering arunaru work with Mangagamer and his Rance VI was almost finished before stalled and work for translating Haruka. Could also be Rance 5D, and by the way since Rance game before Kichikuou was available as free, I think Mangagamer will not announce those game (And the graphic was very old anyway, but we didn't know if Mangagamer will announce that though). About another Alice Soft game, I didn't know which was Mangagamer want to release though, although if we talk about translated one, Daibanchou might be possible though.

2. Baldr Series - As awesome as if Mangagamer announce this, since we also talk about GIGA, maybe after they got the license from GIGA the first game they announce would be probably Duel Savior, even though Baldr was the signature series from GIGA. Why? Because it was already translated, and I think from business perspective it save cost in term of translating if Mangagamer was only announced the translated game to be released officially. While if MangaGamer want to announce Baldr Sky, it need to be translated from scratch and it'll cost some money to paid the translator. Of course it would be awesome, since Baldr Sky had some history with 2 of the translation effort was stopped halfway, one by C&D and the second was delayed by the translator himself, probably because he couldn't had time to balance it between his work time and translating time (To top it that before stalling he use lame reason called evaluating, which in real probably he was too tired from work and not evaluating script at all. Maybe).

3. Sono Hanabira - Not much comment that maybe Mangagamer will announce SonoHana 1-10 if they really serious to license SonoHana. But I think SonoHana 11 should be Mangagamer first priority because the couple from translated SonoHana by Mangagamer first featured there and from same company technically. Well, Yurin Yurin was actually Fuguriya going official anyway, so once again I think it's still possible if Mangagamer announce SonoHana 1-10.

4. Dies Irae - Conjueror and garejel try to translated this game in their youtube video iirc, Clephas like this game very much (And he use the villain from Dies Irae as his avatar), and moogy claimed it was very hard to translated. Anyway, it would be interesting if this was announce by Mangagamer tomorrow, and it may be possible since Mangagamer also had 2 very enthusiastic translator work for them and already had experience to translated Dies Irae (Only small scene though, but still). Although it may any game from Light though, which I'd just find out that before Dies Irae, mostly they go with some sort of nukige or classic love school story (I might be wrong though) until Masada wrote Dies Irae. After that, I think Light was more respected and had Masada to write some other VN in order to get more money. Or made some game that like Dies Irae from the writer other than Masada. Either way, I think Dies Irae was influenced Light company from simple eroge company to be more known because of Dies Irae. Oh, I was only basing my opinion on VNDB game list of Light company, so once again I might be too biased here.

5. Fate/Stay Night - Already played, well known, discussed, and review it to the death. And for the company, Type Moon it was possible that Mangagamer might announce this or Tsukihime tomorrow (And if Mangagamer somehow managed to announce Tsukihime remake it would be awesome of course. Although Type Moon need to deal with Hisui voice first though, since the usual seiyuu for Hisui Matsuki Miyu was passed away at October 2015). Oh for my comment about Fate, it was also already milked to the death, with ton of side story, several version of remake, 2 version of anime, and pachinko game that caused the player to be broke because he was spent the money too much (The game was Fate Grand Order, and the money he was spent was 430.000 yen (Equal to around 30 more games at Mangagamer site I think)), so much that Type Moon forgot to developed Tsukihime remake and Mahoutsukai no Yoru sequel in order to pump money from Fate franchise. Which ironically make it possible that Mangagamer will announce Fate, simply because it was Cash Cow Franchise for Type Moon.

6. White Album 2 - I only knew that my dormitory friend back at college played this game using AGTH ATLAS, the OP was very catchy (Because my friend sometimes listen WA 2 OP, with Hatsuyuki Sakura OP and Grisaia no Meikyuu OP (That's why I said that Meikyuu OP was very good)), the MC involved in love triangle from high school to university, right now it was at 4th rank in VNDB, and some effort of translating it with messy translation at Baka-Tsuki. Other than that didn't know much. And for the company, I think Aquaplus (Leaf was children company from Aquaplus) was tend to make spinoff or sequel from their games. The more evident example was To Heart 2, although there was also the case with Utawarerumono and Tears to Tiara (Which for some reason the sequel was officially localized by ATLUS). Oh, for my speculation about announced game from Aquaplus, Tears to Tiara was the most possible candidate obviously (With already officially localized the sequel), although Utawarerumono might be possible though.

7. Shin Koihime Musou - I think it may be possible, considering we had translation group who did their best to translated this game. I remember that Koihime Musou from Mangagamer was had some controversy with Mangagamer ripped the voice and fans made the patch to restore the voice. Other than this, Koihime Musou, and Harukoi Otome, I think there's not much about other games to speculate from BaseSon, although I'm kinda curious if Mangagamer will announce Sengoku Koihime though (All age and may will take some interest from Steam).

8. Majikoi - One answer if Mangagamer announce Minato Soft as the partner, this is they first choice. The reason was because Majikoi was like Cash Cow Franchise to Minato Soft, with lesser release of their other game after Majikoi, at least before 2013, so not so much Cash Cow Franchise as Fate to Type Moon. Other reason that they'll choose Majikoi if they announce Minato Soft as partner once again was simply because it was already translated. As for Majikoi, actually there was a little history behind it. So it's like that there is one group who translated this until at least around 2012 when the head was not doing any update anymore (Presumably because of he need to work around 12-13 hours), and the translation was simply left to death. And finally reborn at this forum with some nice user (Dowolf) translating started from Agave route, then side routes and finally infamous Miyako route iirc. I also remember when I edited release date in VNDB from 2015 to TBA, simply because Peter Payne from JAST expressed interest to license Majikoi at VNDB (And we knew what happened when a game announced by JAST, right), so he didn't state his interest directly to announce it in 2015 (Or at least I hoped that). Anyway, back to Majikoi, thanks to Dowolf and the staff here, especially Ouraibaa which like the head translator here to revive Majikoi translation project and finished it, although the translation was different from the older one though (It was small matter anyway). Back to speculation, other than Majikoi, it might possible that Mangagamer also announced Yuuki Yuuna I think, because people thinking it was like Madoka and it was translated anyway (Actually, it was more like side story of Yuuki Yuuna though). Other than that, didn't know much.

9. Aiyoku no Eustia - I knew that this game had some many history. First, it was translated by the same group who translated Majikoi first (Oh, I'd forgot to said the group, but the group name was Yandere Translation). After Yandere died down, so was naturally the project for translating this game. Second, it was August game, which back at 2014 it was probably 'cursed' together with Yuzusoft that the translation will not finished fully. While Noble Works was fully translated back at Christmas mean the curse finally broken for Noble Works, for August game the curse was still persist. For the record, Yoake until now was still QC, Fortune Arterial translator was sick according to his last post before not updating it anymore, and finally as for Daitoshokan I didn't know why the translator stopped it other than it probably related to the real life as well. Third, the game structure had same structure as G-Senjou, and fourth, I think from some spoiler I'd read in review the game ending was not like moege to say the least. Oh, the OP was very good. As for the speculation, actually if possible it should be this company that Mangagamer announce tomorrow, and for the games all of those 4 should be good candidate to announce, although I think Aiyoku was the best according to VNDB though. But Yoake, Daitoshokan, and Fortune Arterial was not too bad though. Oh one more thing, the artist for August was quite famous (I think) with name Bekkankou.

10. Diabolik Lover - Not interested in Otome game, but if you interested you may search for yourself. Since I didn't had interest in this game, instead I'll comment about Steam possibility. I think it might possible if Mangagamer announce this if only to penetrate Steam market more further, because this game was also released at PSP, which mean no H-Scenes for the game because Sony didn't allow porn in the game that they marketed. And since Steam was also adapt same policy as Sony, I think it possible to had this game at Steam.

I think that's all for my opinion. Note that once again it was ONLY MY OPINION, and therefore had big chance to be turned out wrong. Although the reason here guess just want to write my opinion about result of poll. But if the poll result was not announced tomorrow, there's still more event to announce. Either way, we need to wait until announcement of course.

PS - One last note, apparently Mangagamer add one more announcement from 2 to 3 for event tomorrow. Interesting, so we had once again 3 announcements to look forward. Decay back at VNDB suggested something interesting.

Edited January 6, 2018 by littleshogun