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This is kind of why i sorta lost my drive to translate vns.  Thank you for  so eloquently expressing the thoughts of so many translators have.  

^ pretty much.
People, even if new, should first do some interior or exterior research before posting these retarded posts that have already been done to death. The level of ignorance shown with these posts/threads only comes to show how much people don't know and/or don't care about what happens behind the scenes and just want the end result.
And it indeed isn't, if you aren't doing it for:
Learning, like say, practicing for better linguistic skills or just overall better understanding of a language. Have huge amounts of motivation and drive for it. Want to get involved more in the scene, or use it as a stepping stone in your future career, or something of that sort. I'm very much triggered that people aren't double-checking on what they're doing on the  internet or in general, and donations for fan-translations are a very good example of that. If they'd just dig around for a bit, they'd find pretty easily that paying money for fan-work is in most cases illegal.
People honestly should pay more attention before bashing something they don't like, but that part of humans won't change, ever. Things be dumb and unfair to the end, so better get a thicker skin before sliding deeper. Or at all, really.

Aint nobody want to see fat dude in a cute grill VN
If i want to see fat dude i'll look into the mirror

Certain things are glamourized in this world. Saying we should include fat characters in our generally idealized stories is basically saying we as a society should shift the set of things we glamorize so that it makes a minority feel better.
Atm, what we as a society glamorize is mostly depends on what the masses like, and what companies try to propagate to forward their brands and ventures.
IMO, ideally, you should train people to recognize these societal glorifications for what they are, which is just things to be enjoyed, not reflections of the truth. You shouldn't advocate for a different set of glorifications in order to lull fat people to thinking the reality is some how kinder for it. The reality is what it is.
I think there was a line of criticism against LN's for glorifying being living an otaku lifestyle. If there was a parallel universe where such otaku-glorifiying LN's didn't exist (that was like 15 years ago), that would be fine, too. I'm sure there were and are a lot of otaku who felt pressure (both external, from people's opinions, and internal, from lack of validation) from the type of lifestyle they chose/fell into.
The main issue with fat people is not the difference of preference (that should very much be allowed), but existing prejudice. Fat people shouldn't be bullied in school, or insulted anywhere. But those are difficult challenges that revolve around human nature. If your fat and some asshole insults you based on that, that's because they are an asshole, and not particularly because you are fat. Or they have a prejudice. The prejudice, and more importantly, how people act on that prejudice, is the more productive and realistic issue to tackle.
 

Body;
Hmmm. So you're saying a producer should run the risk of being shat on by consumers or making losses because you want him to push a minor agenda? 
Now, everyone possesses an individual opinion about something. That is "Subjective". When majority of the individuals possess a similar opinion, it becomes "Objective". It becomes fact. 
Average individual: Killing is bad.
Murderer: Killing is good/necessary. 
Two opinions. Yet one has transcended to become fact due to an overwhelming majority. This is non debatable. Why? Because what i'm saying is FACT.
Unfortunately those who share your opinion are a vast minority. Fat people are humans, they deserve human rights. They deserve the same benefits every human gets not including media coverage. That is a privilege that is determined by society.
"Bald head and thick beards."
"6'0 foot tall"
"Slim waist big ass"
"Plot/Tits"
These are various "trends" or preferences of society of the now. So in various media, they get most of the attention. Those are the demands of society because they are Visually appealing.
Conclusion;

Being fat is optional. Those who are fat should not suffer socially because of it. They deserve to be treated like everyone else.
On the same vein, those who are fat should be treated like everybody else. They should not be given any unnecessary praise or recognition separate from what society wants.
They made their choice. They chose to eat. Whether it benefits the individual or not is not something that should capture attention. They deserve neither positive nor negative appraisals. Like Snailmusk said in the previous post, there are much, much bigger problems than positively approving the obese.
TL;DR:
Society decides what it wants at the end of the day. If it ain't the obese, you gotta wait till their time comes. There/this was/is a time were anorexia (or extremely slim to be more precise) was/is a thing. There was a time where chubby/meaty was a thing. Given the fickle nature of humanity, obesity will become a thing. Push it's agenda then, not now.
 
P.S read this passively/superficially. Do not read tones or meanings into it, or it will ruin the simplicity of my message. While i was typing i possessed nothing but a poker face and a calm demeanor. Please do not visualize anything else while reading. Thank you.

*Pets Snail*

You have to the count of 3 to quadruple check your privilege. 

Unless of course you can't count, I'm not trying to trigger you.

Oh shit, I'm sorry for hurting your feelings, rock!!!
Wait a minute...

DID YOU JUST ASSUME I'M A SENTIENT ORGANISM CAPABLE OF FORMING OPINIONS!?

You. I like your opinion.

The purpose of language is all about communication and clarity. You shouldn't associate the very core of your identity over the definition of a word, because it's totally arbitrary. 

When my head does loops trying to understand if you're "Proxvir" or "Vocigender" it does nothing but make it harder for us to understand each other as people. 

If the very idea of something is non-objective, then I don't understand why: > Calling an agender person a "she" feels as bad as calling a cis male a "she".
                                                                                                      and: > a cis male, being taken to a female dorm, with female clothes and called by a female name.
...are such cataclysmic social sins.

If the purpose of gender is to make communication easy, then we should stick to the things that nature has prescribed us, because there IS a level of truth to it.

If the purpose of gender is something to identify as, it shouldn't be something completely void and meaningless. I identify you as a person by the way you act, the way you think, and the way you conduct yourself. It's what makes us human beings. These gender pronouns and identifications are about as superficial as it gets.

Feel free to call me a "she" on the street, because the only time my gender really matters is if a doctor is asking to stick his finger up my ass.

Let's keep language simple, so that we can work towards real problems.

That's something difficult to achieve, in all honesty. The only thing when it happens, is when a team is based either on a circle of friends - each of them skilled in one or more particular aspects of game development, or when people you hire take the project seriously and wholeheartedly and aren't just doing it to "get the job done" and receive the payment (as in, treating it purely as work), but want to get involved in it as much as possible, because they fucking like it.
Part of the trick is finding people who share your dreams an passions, assesing who's readily able to put actual effort into the development and leave something behind, instead of only doing their part. It's eaier said, than done, unfortunately. A lot of people contributing to various projects are - in fact - not skilled, nor mature enough, nor have the required patience to tackle whatever they are tasked with. A lot of people think only about money. A lot of people only want to get the job done and move on; they aren't really interested, they don't share the lead developer's vision, they are in only to gain the experience or start their own careers, treat projects as personal milestones. This is why a lot of the games on the market actually lack that something special, which makes them unique. The kind of a game you take and say "Wow, the team that worked on it really put everything into it, it's so incredibly distinct and you can litally sense the devteam's passion burning throughout it". Such games rarely feel just like a bunch of different elements and assests hastily cobbled together, but a consistent production, where every single of it's part complements the rest.