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There are way more than two genders


*anoyoruniyakusokushita

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One common misconception most people have is that gender = sex. There are only two sexes, but genders? Probably thousands. This is the way most people think of gender:

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And this is how gender actually is:

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Gender does not come from one's genitals. Doctors, unfortunately, assign genders to children at birth based solely on their genitals. In fact, gender comes from one's mind. How said person identify themselves: either male, female, agender, 75% male and 25% female, bigender, third gender (also called third sex, but it's actually a gender, not a sex), genderfluid, genderflux. 

Each person has their own pronouns, which make them feel more comfortable. Calling an agender person a "she" feels as bad as calling a cis male a "she". To further understand the pain of misgendering someone, imagine you, a cis male, being taken to a female dorm, with female clothes and called by a female name. Although VNs are famous for idealizing this kind of situation, in real life it would actually feel terrible.

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^No, this would not be funny in real life.

If you want to know more about the different kinds of genders, see this link: http://genderfluidsupport.tumblr.com/gender

Of course, it does not include all genders, but there's a lot there.

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28 minutes ago, RedK said:

Is it possible to have only 1 universal gender?

Um... Not sure what you mean with this question. Do you mean if is it possible for one person to have a universal gender or if everyone is the same gender but noone knows?

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Just now, *anoyoruniyakusokushita said:

Um... Not sure what you mean with this question. Do you mean if is it possible for one person to have a universal gender or if everyone is the same gender but noone knows?

Everyone having the same gender.

Do you think it's possible?

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The purpose of language is all about communication and clarity. You shouldn't associate the very core of your identity over the definition of a word, because it's totally arbitrary. 

When my head does loops trying to understand if you're "Proxvir" or "Vocigender" it does nothing but make it harder for us to understand each other as people. 

If the very idea of something is non-objective, then I don't understand why: > Calling an agender person a "she" feels as bad as calling a cis male a "she".
                                                                                                      and: > a cis male, being taken to a female dorm, with female clothes and called by a female name.
...are such cataclysmic social sins.

If the purpose of gender is to make communication easy, then we should stick to the things that nature has prescribed us, because there IS a level of truth to it.

If the purpose of gender is something to identify as, it shouldn't be something completely void and meaningless. I identify you as a person by the way you act, the way you think, and the way you conduct yourself. It's what makes us human beings. These gender pronouns and identifications are about as superficial as it gets.

Feel free to call me a "she" on the street, because the only time my gender really matters is if a doctor is asking to stick his finger up my ass.

Let's keep language simple, so that we can work towards real problems.

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1 minute ago, RedK said:

Everyone having the same gender.

Do you think it's possible?

Possible, you say... It is possible, but I find it highly unlikely. Like, lots of people go through surgeries to feel better with their body because of their gender. I don't think this would happen if there was only one gender. The only thing I know with 100% certainty, is that, right now, I am third gender.

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5 minutes ago, *anoyoruniyakusokushita said:

Possible, you say... It is possible, but I find it highly unlikely. Like, lots of people go through surgeries to feel better with their body because of their gender. I don't think this would happen if there was only one gender. The only thing I know with 100% certainty, is that, right now, I am third gender.

Let's make a yuri-topia :pyaa:

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25 minutes ago, Snailmusk said:

The purpose of language is all about communication and clarity. You shouldn't associate the very core of your identity over the definition of a word, because it's totally arbitrary. 

When my head does loops trying to understand if you're "Proxvir" or "Vocigender" it does nothing but make it harder for us to understand each other as people. 

If the very idea of something is non-objective, then I don't understand why: > Calling an agender person a "she" feels as bad as calling a cis male a "she".
                                                                                                      and: > a cis male, being taken to a female dorm, with female clothes and called by a female name.
...are such cataclysmic social sins.

If the purpose of gender is to make communication easy, then we should stick to the things that nature has prescribed us, because there IS a level of truth to it.

if the purpose of gender is something to identify as, it shouldn't be something completely void and meaningless. I identify you as a person by the way you act, the way you think, and the way you conduct yourself. It's what makes us human beings. These identifications and preferences are about as superficial as it gets.

Feel free to call me a "she" on the street, because the only time my gender really matters is if a doctor is asking to stick his finger up my ass.

Let's keep language simple, so that we can work towards real problems.

You. I like your opinion.

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Just now, Chronopolis said:

Oh shit, I'm sorry for hurting your feelings, rock!!!

Wait a minute...

You have to the count of 3 to quadruple check your privilege. 

Unless of course you can't count, I'm not trying to trigger you.

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50 minutes ago, Snailmusk said:

The purpose of language is all about communication and clarity. You shouldn't associate the very core of your identity over the definition of a word, because it's totally arbitrary. 

When my head does loops trying to understand if you're "Proxvir" or "Vocigender" it does nothing but make it harder for us to understand each other as people. 

If the very idea of something is non-objective, then I don't understand why: > Calling an agender person a "she" feels as bad as calling a cis male a "she".
                                                                                                      and: > a cis male, being taken to a female dorm, with female clothes and called by a female name.
...are such cataclysmic social sins.

If the purpose of gender is to make communication easy, then we should stick to the things that nature has prescribed us, because there IS a level of truth to it.

If the purpose of gender is something to identify as, it shouldn't be something completely void and meaningless. I identify you as a person by the way you act, the way you think, and the way you conduct yourself. It's what makes us human beings. These gender pronouns and identifications are about as superficial as it gets.

Feel free to call me a "she" on the street, because the only time my gender really matters is if a doctor is asking to stick his finger up my ass.

Let's keep language simple, so that we can work towards real problems.

*Pets Snail*

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39 minutes ago, RedK said:

Let's make a yuri-topia :pyaa:

How do you know it wouldn't be a yaoi-topia?

46 minutes ago, Snailmusk said:

The purpose of language is all about communication and clarity. You shouldn't associate the very core of your identity over the definition of a word, because it's totally arbitrary. 

Is male the very core of your identity? In the same way, my gender is not the core of my identity. It's just my gender, nothing else.

 

49 minutes ago, Snailmusk said:

When my head does loops trying to understand if you're "Proxvir" or "Vocigender" it does nothing but make it harder for us to understand each other as people. 

If the very idea of something is non-objective, then I don't understand why: > Calling an agender person a "she" feels as bad as calling a cis male a "she".
                                                                                                      and: > a cis male, being taken to a female dorm, with female clothes and called by a female name.
...are such cataclysmic social sins.

You don't have to try to understand if I'm one gender or another. You just have to ask me. That simple.

What exactly do you mean by non-objective?

51 minutes ago, Snailmusk said:

If the purpose of gender is to make communication easy, then we should stick to the things that nature has prescribed us, because there IS a level of truth to it.

If the purpose of gender is something to identify as, it shouldn't be something completely void and meaningless. I identify you as a person by the way you act, the way you think, and the way you conduct yourself. It's what makes us human beings. These gender pronouns and identifications are about as superficial as it gets.

Gender does not have a purpose. It just exists. It's like what's the purpose of the universe? None, it's just... There.

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30 minutes ago, *anoyoruniyakusokushita said:

Gender does not have a purpose. It just exists. It's like what's the purpose of the universe? None, it's just... There.

It does? I thought it was a social construct.

If it doesn't have a purpose, then let's toss it out the window entirely.

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20 minutes ago, Snailmusk said:

It does? I thought it was a social construct.

Gender expression is a social construct, not gender itself.

21 minutes ago, Snailmusk said:

If it doesn't have a purpose, then let's toss it out the window entirely.

Actually, if we could do that (with gender), things would be way easier. But I don't think we can. 

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1 minute ago, *anoyoruniyakusokushita said:

Actually, if we could do that (with gender), things would be way easier. But I don't think we can. 

Why not?

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Just now, Snailmusk said:

Why not?

This means most of us all would have to force ourselves to be agender. You would have to live your whole life pretending to be something you aren't. Seriously, do you really think that idea can work? Taking out a portion of whom people have been throughout their whole lives out of the blue. I think we are born with it, we can't simply get rid of it.

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1 minute ago, *anoyoruniyakusokushita said:

You would have to live your whole life pretending to be something you aren't

Okay, whatever. Gender doesn't mean anything, so who cares.

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2 minutes ago, Snailmusk said:

Gender doesn't mean anything, so who cares.

Apparently a lot of people do. Including me. And also, have you ever thought about the possibility of you being a cassgender? Because you definitely sound like one.

Cassgender: the feeling of gender is unimportant to you (definition)

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Just now, *anoyoruniyakusokushita said:

Apparently a lot of people do. Including me. And also, have you ever thought about the possibility of you being a cassgender? Because you definitely sound like one.

I consider it a vacuous thing to care about. Once we've stopped climate change, found world peace, colonized the galaxy, and seen the face of God, maybe the human race should consider it a worthwhile cause.

 

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1 minute ago, Snailmusk said:

I consider it a vacuous thing to care about. Once we've stopped climate change, found world peace, colonized the galaxy, and seen the face of God, maybe the human race should consider it a worthwhile cause.

 

You know what? You should have said that from the beginning. This has been your best argument so far imo. I can definitely see where you're coming from...

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32 minutes ago, *anoyoruniyakusokushita said:

You know what? You should have said that from the beginning. This has been your best argument so far imo. I can definitely see where you're coming from...

That's not the point though.

You already know that those are worthwhile causes, but I wanted you to consider the logic that I'm coming from, whether I'm right or wrong. If I'm right, then you learn something, and if you're right, then I learn something. 

My goal wasn't to change your mind, it was simply to challenge an idea. FER DE SCIENCE.



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29 minutes ago, Snailmusk said:

That's not the point though.

You already know that those are worthwhile causes, but I wanted you to consider the logic that I'm coming from, whether I'm right or wrong. If I'm right, then you learn something, and if you're right, then I learn something. 

My goal wasn't to change your mind, it was simply to challenge an idea. FER DE SCIENCE.

Well, just saying that comment of yours made me actually ponder more about the subject. Now I don't think calling me a monster will back up your point of view. Anyway, I'm tired of discussing about this subject now. Tomorrow it's gonna be about Fat Acceptance. If you want to discuss about that, feel free to drop a comment.

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Just now, *anoyoruniyakusokushita said:

Well, just saying that comment of yours made me actually ponder more about the subject. Now I don't think calling me a monster will back up your point of view.

I wasn't trying to. The image is just like that. :( 

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