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Unlimited Blade Works is my favorite, but I think Heaven's Feel is probably a better written route. I just found UBW more personally relatable.
I actually didn't dislike Shirou too much, aside from his occasional chauvinism that all VN protagonists seem to suffer from. "I helped you because you're a girl! Not because I would help any human being that was in danger! It's because you were born without a penis!" I hate that line of logic. And it's worse in Shirou's case because until a very specific point in the story, he isn't actually helpful in the least; his belief that he can somehow protect them is condescending to Saber and Tosaka in my opinion.
But I really liked how firm he was on his ideals and even his pushover-ness appealed to me on some level. I like an idealist protagonist, and can relate to the helping people who don't deserve your help kind of attitude, too.
I'm midway through the Unlimited Blade Works anime, and it's excellent. I've seen the sentiment expressed by some hardcore anime fans that they think it's only seen as good because of its high budget, but that's not the case at all. I think they're just mad that everyone is talking about it and are looking for ways to bring it down so that they can feel superior for liking less universally praised stuff. It's really a fantastic show, the fighting is excellent, the story is handled well, and it doesn't get things wrong, either.
I haven't seen Fate/Zero yet, but I absolutely plan to.
F/SN is one of my favorite VNs of all time, behind Tsukihime, which is a goddamned masterpiece.
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I live on the East Coast of the US.
I used to live on the West Coast, though.
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Here's some lyrics I wrote recently that people seemed to like.
The song is called Shallow Water.
There’s mud
polluting shallow water
I guess that’s
all I really am
Just mud
polluting shallow water
I swear
I did everything I can
There’s blood
leading out the doorway
In the end
that’s all you really were
Just a cut
dripping off my fingers
It’s more the mess
that bothers than the hurt
I’m miserable, and you’re happy
guess I expected that from you
used to say I loved you,
now I don’t have to.
now there’s pills
I take every morning
I guess thats
all you really were
Just pills
I took every morning
I’m still
scared of the very worst
Yeah, I’m miserable and you’re happy
that’s what this song suggests
I loved you so much
I’ll try to love you less.
There was Elena, before you
with those dark brown eyes
and another, before her
who used to tell me lies
and I’d smile, and she’d smile
cause we were happy
together, forever
but we're not happy now
I hate you.
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Oh my god, thank you so much, translation team. I've been waiting for this for so long (just like everyone else) and had almost given up hope. Miyako is probably my favorite female heroine in any VN I've played so far, and I'm so happy to finally get a chance to see her route through to the end. Thank you guys so much.
Seriously, thank you.
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It seems reasonable to say, honestly. They're allowed to have whatever views on it that they want. If that's their take on the situation, that's fine. People can choose to listen to their advice or not.
That doesn't mean I think fan-translators should stop, though. But if there is a way to make it happen legally (which there more often then not isn't. I'm probably never going to get a legal English version of Ace Attorney Investigations 2) then by all means, pursue that route first. But keep doing it, even if legal avenues seem closed off to you. There's a whole community of people that loves what you do and can't experience these things without your help.
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Except for Toono Akiha, she wasn't my favorite character, but jees either ending is kinda harsh.
Oh god,
The fact that the ending where she basically turns into a pet is considered a good one relative to the other one is just a sign of how fucked-up that VN is. I mean that in a good way, of course.
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I guess I should mention that Tsukihime has "Good End"s that you can go back to after getting the True Ends for every route, and that almost all of them really lessen the impact of the True Ends.
For example.
Arcueid's True End hit me extremely hard and had me crying my eyes out, but her Good End is just your typical, "everything turned out okay in the end, no one really got hurt" type of ending, and it really shouldn't have been there at all. I mean, I guess it made me feel "better" after the tragedy that was the True End, but the game wasn't about making you feel good inside, it was about telling this brilliant and dark story that didn't hold anything back. It was perfectly willing to completely destroy you emotionally, but the existence of the Good Ends really took some of the wind out of it.
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Remember 11: The Age of Infinity one of the worst ending
Yeah, I second this opinion. Remember 11's ending is bad to the point of actually ruining the rest of the game for me. It's so unsatisfying.
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I have a hard time when the length seems overwhelming, though if it's good enough, that won't make me drop it. Tsukihime is incredibly long, but I played through every route and savored every single moment of it. Kamidori Alchemy Meister, on the other hand, is frustratingly long with a meaningless story tacked onto a pile of H-scenes and gameplay that is only fun for the first quarter of the game. I might pick it back up someday, but for now, it's dropped.
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None have changed my life nearly as deeply as they have changed yours, though some of them have certainly changed my perspective. The change in perspective has likely led to me making somewhat different decisions than I would have otherwise, and has actually led me to make a friend or two, too.
For example, playing Phoenix Wright for the first time gave me a whole new outlook on what video games could be; up to that point I had played primarily JRPGs and platformers. I have since played many different games and looked for deeper meanings from them than I ever got out of (most) of those others, and am better for it. Games are an artistic medium to me now, and I'm not sure that they were before.
Playing Phoenix Wright and loving it so much probably swayed my decision to play Katawa Shoujo. When I played Katawa Shoujo, I had just experienced a pretty terrible breakup followed by two pretty traumatic weeks. I don't want to get into too many specifics, but lets just say that I have very poor taste in coping mechanisms and wound up spending a night in jail while not even being aware enough of my surroundings to know where I was. Bad shit. Needless to say, after coming to, I realized I needed to get the fuck out of my situation and moved far, far away from where I was. The thing was, when I did move away, I was lonely. After a pretty long period of feeling this loneliness, I say someone mention Katawa Shoujo, and entirely free of any context for what it was decided to give it a shot. Literally the only thing I knew about it was that it was a "dating sim". I know now that that's not what it actually is, but back then I didn't really know the difference between that and a VN. I quickly realized what it was, and I may have even been ready to turn it off and move on. Then I saw Hanako. I've posted this in many places, but Hanako and I share some similarities, both physical and personality-wise.
This all lead to me being completely overwhelmed by emotion at the end of the route. I had to say something to anyone about it. So I posted a user blog about it on a certain gaming website that I frequent. Someone sent me a personal message in response, and I've kept in contact with him ever since. Having that person as a friend has been one of the only things keeping me sane in the lonely place I'm at right now.
So, Katawa Shoujo made me a friend, and opened my eyes to a whole new genre of game, which has in turn opened my eyes to another level of being able to accept people for who they are. I'm now into something that gets a really bad rap from people who don't understand it. Because of that, I've learned not to make those assumptions about other people, or the things they like.
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i didn't even touch that. as someone ever said, vn based anime is usually just plain masterpiece (shit)
I don't know, I just started watching Fate/Stay Night and it's pretty enjoyable. I'm not exactly well-versed when it comes to anime, though, so maybe I'm just wrong.
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I write a lot. Here's another poem; this one's about a breakup. It's a generic topic, I know, but stuff happens and it's hard to get over so I write about it.
I made it easyI made it so easy for youWhen I disappearedyou could forgetyour wrongdoingWhen I disappearedyou couldn’t hearyou couldn’t hear my song anymoreBut I guess that I don’t knowfor sureI mean it’s been a long timeand I didn’t forgetso maybe you still rememberor even thinkof meoccasionallyBut I don’t really knowso I assumeand my assumption isprobably spot onbut I didn’t forgetso maybe you still rememberI can’t even reallyHonestly I can’tkeep my thoughtstogetherIt’s been a long timeIt’s been too longfor me to care anymoreand I guess I don’tbut I didn’t forgetso maybe you still rememberI didn’t forgetand you’re stillwhatever -
I'm not going to link to the blog where I originally posted this yet, as it's filled with some extremely personal anecdotes that I'm not quite comfortable sharing here (yet) but here is a poem I wrote the other day about internet/social media culture.
Take solace in allof the words that you writethe "fucks" and the "fags"oh, the faceless you fightas you fumble and freakand you fester behindthe beautiful glowof the monitor's lightThis sickphotosynsthesisfeeding your frail,frail egofinding your faithin the fuckingfailure of peoplefinally filling yourselfwith some sick, structurelessself-worthAre you happy now? -
A few months ago, Decay let me walk right into that without any warning. And I really, really appreciate him for doing that.
I want to hate this route. I tried to really hard, but I couldn't. It's not the story I wanted to be told, but it's a fantastic story nonetheless.
I'm glad you found KiraKira to be an experience worth your time. Rest a bit, you swallowed the biggest pill in the bottle.
Okay, that's good to know, because
if every route is just as emotionally intense as this one was, then I would have to take a break from it. I had to work today and I had to actively keep myself from thinking about it while there, because every time I did, the tears started coming back.
After thinking about it,
I do think it's totally crazy that this is generally going to be everyone's first route playing this VN. I mean, it seems like the way to go, right? You generally start on with the character that the game seems to be pushing the hardest before moving on to your favorite character, and Kirari definitely fit the bill. It's just that usually in VNs, that route is also the most simply resolved one. NOT THE CASE HERE AT ALL. (This statement is being made without the context of the having finished the other routes, but I highly doubt any of them are going to be quite like this one was.)
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I finished my first route in Kira Kira.
I don't know if this VN does what it does quite as well as other VNs do, but everything it does do seems tailor-made to appeal to me.
I mean, I grew up as a punk-rock kid playing in a shitty punk-rock band; all of my greatest memories are from being on the stage, and music is a huge part of who I am. This VN hits those notes, and it also hits on the nostalgia of growing up.
That, and
the fact that the heroine died in a fire, and the MC has to learn to deal with that. I'm a burn victim, so I am pretty sensitive to topics involving fire, and I'm also just personally extremely sensitive to anything involving the separation of two people in love.
Needless to say, I was crying my goddamn eyes out when Shikanosuke was introducing that last song... It was such an upbeat moment, but it hit me so fucking hard. I felt it, too. I felt myself, right there, in that moment.
I'm still reeling a little bit. I don't know if I'm going to get much sleep tonight.
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Nearing the end of my first route in Kira Kira (or at least I think I am) and
this is the second VN I've played that touches on one of the heroines being a burn victim. It's certainly not having the same impact on me that Katawa Shoujo did, but it's still a specific plot point that hits home for me, really hard. I have no idea where it's going from here; I hope they don't just sweep it all under the rug after Kirari recovers. That would be too cheap, and I'd lose a lot of respect for this VN if they did that.
EDIT: Okay, it doesn't seem to be doing that, so that's good, though I do wonder how the hell this is going to wrap up.
A five-year time-skip after Kirari's death is not at all what I expected.
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I'm back. And playing more Kira Kira, like last time.
It's still great! I honestly don't know why I put it down for so long.
Hopefully I can be more consistent and keep up with the VNs again. My next one lined up is Fate/Hollow Ataraxia.
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I can't relate to these stories, because I'm in possession of a lock and a key, which is suitable to close said lock until it is unlocked again. Rocket science, I know, but here we go.
That's nice for people who don't live in households with overbearing parents who either don't allow the doors to be locked or remove the locks altogether like mine do.
I refuse to play VNs in the bathroom, even if it is the only inside door in my house with a lock on it. I will never sink that low.
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I've never had one in spite of recently moving back in with my parents. You have to open two doors to get to my room, so I always hear the first one opening and have time to react before the second one gets opened. I also tend to only skim/skip through H-scenes when I'm playing a VN during the day, so it doesn't come up a lot.
The closest thing to embarrassment I've come with this sort of thing is the number of times I've almost slipped into a long-winded explanation about VNs or one VN in particular before realizing that that would cause my parents to know the existence of such content and thus be on the lookout for it.
So my mother bursts into the room, sees me sobbing and says "I know you've had a breakup recently, but Jesus get a grip already".
Jesus, after my first breakup my mother bought me a 50 hour RPG to keep my mind off of it until it wasn't so raw. A very, very different approach.
I also bawled my eyes out after playing Katawa Shoujo soon after a breakup. It was Hanako's route that killed me, really, especially when you consider the fact that I myself am a burn victim and could relate to what was going on so closely.
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I do this more with video games/VN, personally. In video games, it's because as I approach the end of a game, I get obsessed with doing side content,which inevitably isn't as good as the main content and I get burnt out on it pretty quickly. With VNs, I think I just get distracted from them pretty easy, and with them not being physical objects like books are, it's easier for me not to pick them back up.
With anime, I tend to drop really long ones, even if I like them. With ones I like that aren't ridiculously long, I binge-watch that shit and finish all of it over the course of one to three days.
So no, I don't have that problem with anime, but I do have it with other forms of media.
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I've been inactive as of late due to a variety of reasons, but welcome!
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I haven't really been able to get back to Kira Kira due to work ramping up for the holidays, and that's frustrating. I really like what I've played so far, and am really interested to see where it's going.
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It's a fun VN, set in a fun world, filled with fun characters. Majikoi just makes me feel good. I personally enjoy slice-of-life-y stuff quite a bit in a VN, but can enjoy a good intense moment every now and then too, and Majikoi is basically 80/20 that, in favor of the slice-of-life stuff, so it's a big win in my book. I also found most of the actual romances relatively believable (I didn't really enjoy Chris's route, though.)
All this is coming from someone who hasn't even had a chance to read the route of their favorite heroine, (perhaps ever) Miyako.
But basically, I find that Majikoi takes place in a setting I find extremely enjoyable, with characters I like being around. Playing it immerses me in a world that I find extremely endearing just due to the fact that it lines up with my personal tastes.
I also like the art quite a bit, and the H-scenes are (as you said) really well-done.
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Damn son.
I was downloading Sekien no Inganock, then I realized that there was a Fullvoice REBORN version.
Is there any way to patch the original game with the Fullvoice REBORN one?
Or do I need to download the whole game again?
With that out of my chest, I'm debating as to whether I'll continue on to Fate/Hollow Ataraxia after reading Fate/Stay Night Realta Nua or go and reread Tsukihime.
Tsukihime is either the greatest or second greatest VN I've ever read. It's honestly probably the best by a long shot, as I think the only reason I like the other one I like more is because it was one of the first VNs I ever read.
Tsukihime is incredible in every way. You should read that, in my opinion.
Just finished Fate/ stay night [Spoilers]
in Visual Novel Talk
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Ah, cool, the first post I post on these boards after being away for literal months is immediately met with someone making fun of me. Ah well, whatever. Tsukihime is actually fascinating in its structure and the points of view it forces you to look through are what makes that VN interesting. the whole point of the VN was to be filled with things that you hate and that suck. But I digress.
I fully disagree with you about the story not being good. It's not a fact that Nasu is not a good writer. It is an opinion, and I disagree strongly, which is why I find UBW to be such a good show. The world he has thought up is unique and interesting. The only place I can really fault these VNs is on the H content, because it's all terrible.