seventhfonist425

Couldn't have said it better myself. Depends a lot on the person. I changed a fair number of times in my whole process too. Never finished RtK (Though, I think I could have if some outside sources didn't get in the way...)

Oh. lol, I'm in my first year of college. Might be worth keeping this in mind. I'll also try considering the stuff said here. I'm always afraid I won't have time to read or do things. Anyways, one thing I think sorta works is fixing your sleep schedule. I don't really have the time to get into doing uberman or anything, but the super light siesta helps a bit by itself. Sleeping 6 hours technically adds 4 hours to the day everyday.

1. What was worked out: Uhh... it was pretty simple. We had a system at first, but everyone had their own priorities, needs, and wants at the time, so it became the simple "read whatever you wanna read." We extended that by having logs for everyone (well, assuming you made one, of your own volition, of course.) 2. Appropriate for beginners/approach? You could generally tell if a VN is too difficult. Rule of thumb (exceptions to every rule, of course), if it's a supernatural setting, Fate Stay Night being a big one, it was too hard. There are some that may SEEM easy, despite lacking the supernatural. (I'm looking at you, Grisaia.) Like the ones I started out with, I can vouch for as fairly easy. (There's also threads on this site that already answer that, so you can also look in those as well.) Approach for beginners... hmm, I'd say it varies. Some people decided to take more time, to, well, study up on grammar, and never really got to do too much reading, others just kinda went poof. 3. Lesson learning? Nope. Well, Rains did do some videos, but there weren't that many, and he got busy with real life. A lot of it is self-done. Like, you decide if you're up for reading (with people starting with literally only knowledge on hiragana vs. people who started with a fairly strong ground.) While there are no lessons, a lot of things, people can either tell you, direct you in the right direction to figure out grammar or something, or at the very least, offer resources. We don't actually practice speaking or writing, which is admittedly bad, but to get good at just, say reading a VN, it's not quite as important. (Not saying it's not, but I think you can get away without it, to a certain extent.)

I too am starting college. Congrats to you, and may we both do well.

You wanna join too? We'll mostly be around to answer questions and concerns. Since, like in the latest post by Rains, we all separated to the stuff we wanted to read. There's a few people in there that, I don't even know, despite being around for a good portion of the group's existence. So if you're joining and willing to be at least somewhat active, I'm sure it'll be fine.

Wat. couldn't you have just jumped into the group and looked up everybody's names? Though, I will admit the number itself is sort of uhh, high. And Dizzy was in from the very beginning, pretty sure. But yeah, the whole group thing is pretty great. Change my Japanese approach, and really, most importantly, offered friends who were capable of explaining things you just didn't get. One of the most reassuring points of the whole thing. I'm POSITIVE I improved from when I first started. Though, I think everyone moving at their own pace is a given, so everyone separating to do their own thing was sorta bound to happen. I think just having the place around to ask questions is the best possible resource. Having other people around to direct you, tell you tips, things like that, really helps with the whole "overwhelming" aspect of it. Wat. Intermediate room was THAT small?

*Still trying to find another VN to make me cry* I am not a masochist. Right? It's okay, it's the same with me right now.

You win, batman. Anything you want, just ask. I'm sure the same goes for everyone else who ever existed. For this topic, I relate to this line.

Oh, Sorry about that, I uhh, don't really know much at all about either of the two, so I didn't really know what you were doing.

You say you can't draw a straight line, but you realize there's a straight line going right across your statement saying you can't draw a straight line, yes?

Uhh, I dunno what exactly this means. I read "art" was about to nope out of here, but then I looked through comments and you said it could be story, so I'm guessing we just sorta have free reign over what "crossover" we do? (Also, geez, Japanese Steins;Gate? That's probably gonna be SUPER hard to read.) *cough* 生存戦略 = せいぞんせんりゃく = Seizon Senryaku *cough* (...Unless that was on purpose? I was under the impression simply hearing it wasn't enough to make you mess that one up.)

Ah, welcome back, Ren! Was sad to see you go... but you're back! Unfortunately, I am terrible at art, and therefore cannot help with this at all. Good luck getting someone with art skills.

Wait, seriously? I was skipping out on Yuzusoft stuff this entire time under the impression their stuff would be more difficult because of supernatural events and such. Is it really easy-to-read? Also, thanks for the whole order and description of everything, Fiddle. I'll start on Amaterasu's stuff soon then.

Oh right. No, don't put it THAT high up. I learned partly through experience too, for sure. There will be times where you won't be familiar with stuff, and I've had people around to ask at those moments for explanation. It's very good to get basics down, for sure, but when you have something like JParser helping you, you learn a lot from that too. There's also google, which covers most other things like idioms, which, I use in the middle of reading at times. I still have plenty of stuff to work on in terms of grammar as well.

What I used was Tae Kim, because it really is pretty good (I used it.) http://www.imabi.net/ http://amaterasu.tindabox.net/guide/j-comi.php http://www.nihongoresources.com/language/grammar.html Unfortunately, I've ONLY used Tae Kim, so I don't exactly know how great these are, but I've skimmed some, and they seem pretty useful. There are plenty of other sites, which I can't really vouch the credit for, but assume are just as good. Oh yeah, I've forgotten to use them to be honest, but I'm sure they'd be helpful too.

Not even learning it, just getting to the point where you can read it, definitely faster than the translation. LB!'s in particular is just slow enough for that. Exactly how it happened to me, anyway.

Isn't this, like most other Type-Moon writings, super super hard to read?

...Yeah, I gotta bring it up. It feels like you're really feeling down. I realize yeah, you said you'd go through with the whole thing and whatever, but if you're really feeling down, you're free to just take a break. Considering how this was all your decision, you have no obligation to be doing anything for us. Of course, if I'm wrong, feel free to tell me, but at this point, I'm just worried you're forcing yourself to do things you don't want to do. At the very least, if you're feeling down and there's anything we can help with, I'm sure most of us would be willing. Pretty sure most of us would prefer you not feel so down.

Ah, yeah. About that... like some people have already said, if they're slow, chances are, you can teach yourself and learn enough to get to reading (preferably with a text hooker and dictionary) faster than they can get done. I started a good, maybe almost a year after I'd finished reading Little Busters in English... only to end up reading the extra routes in Japanese later. Don't even ask me about the translation team's progress on that. I have no idea. Course, it all depends on your own speed. If you have the time and find a way that works for you (That part MIGHT take a while. Certainly took me a few months of trial and error for me.)

Oh. I was like most American boys innocent, dumb. So I mostly watched what my sister watched... along some other stuff, which I will mention later on. First anime was like, Cardcaptor Sakura. Magical Girls asap for me. I distinctly remember watching Snow Fairy Sugar with my sister too. Twas cute. On TV, Sailor Moon, Yu Yu Hakusho, and Dragon Ball Z were on, so I saw parts of those too. I think nothing really actually made me really like the whole thing was probably something like Hikaru No Go and Clannad... and MAYBE the Megaman.EXE anime series? Don't really recall it as an experience though. If it were first VN, that'd probably be a different story... but it is not.

Oh, THAT'S what this topic is here for?

I wouldn't say that's lower in standards, more like different opinions. It's only natural to find people who disagree on this kind of stuff.

Here's one of my favorite artists, Izumi Tsubasu and her work in SakuSaku. Beautiful, isn't it? She's also worked on Mashiroiro Symphony. Oh god, yes. Exactly. I have Palette's stuff on my backlog to read too. The art is amazing there too.