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Dergonu
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SonoHana 3 is objectively the best SonoHana game. (Paging @Zakamutt for a long winded explanation on why)
Or at least that's what I thought until read SonoHana Nyuu Jene, which is better than all SonoHana games combined, imho.
But unless you can read Japanese, SonoHana 3 (and the sequel, SonoHana 5) will be some of the best ones you can get. It really boils down to which couple you like most to be honest since most of the games have no plot.
Hm, well my Japanese isn't very good. I am terrible at reading kanji at the moment. Does it happen to be in 100% hiragana?
3, 5, is the couple in that Mai x Reo?
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I´ve played nr 1 and 6, Nanami x Yuuna. I know its pretty much just a yuri nukige, but those two games I honestly enjoyed, mainly because of the colorful, cute and funny characters. Yuuna and Nanami pretty much makes the game entertaining even when they aren't ... you know... Playing chess.
( .. what a horrible analogy)That being said, I am wondering if the other games are at all worth it? For the ones that introduce new couples, are the characters enjoyable similarly to Yuuna and Nanami, or is the only appeal for this franchise´s games the fact that its yuri with like a billion H-Scenes?
(Not really interested in the ones that introduces several couples at the same time, as they changed the art style of Yuuna-Sama and Nanami-Chan, which I find to be unacceptable and unforgivable!)
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School days https://vndb.org/v14 - If you dare
If my heart had wings - https://vndb.org/v9093
Also, for what its worth, Yosuga no Sora has the true route translated. Most people would play the game just for Sora. ( Sorry for the repeat, but any chance I have to talk about Sora I will take! Sora is love, Sora is life!
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Oh wow, alright. Well that was simple. Thanks guys.
Loving the read so far, although its very different from anything I've read before, I am like glued to the screen. Its really mytserious and almost ... Yeah, confusing. Rinne's ending ... not quite sure what just happened.
And yes most of the route endings are there to confuse you, dont worry, its all part of it, it just makes the real ending so much more enjoyable imo.
Alright. Time to keep reading, now I am really intruiged.
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Ok, been playing this all day and I think I've finished Rinne's route. Or at least parts of it. (got some form of ending, but idk if its a good or bad end to be honest.) I'm ... Uh, slightly confused. Does anyone have an english walkthrough for this? I dont really understand the way the route system works yet, and its quite confusing trying to figure it out. Would love it if someone could whip up a fast english guide or link me to one, (cant seem to find one anywhere)
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Might be good to get someone who has played each individual game to look it over and tell you what is and isnt a spoiler then. The ones I noticed that were the most spoilery was in Grisaia no Kajitsu. 1 Picture, the one to the far left is a big spoiler, and its also from the third game, not from Kajitsu. The one on the far right is a big spoiler to Yumiko's route in the first game. The rest on Kajitsu seems fine.
EDIT: Also, seems the Grisaia no Meiykuu link is broken. I dont know if you are aware of that or not.
We don't have anybody helping us in regards to that category. Would you be interested in helping? I'm aware of the Grisaia no Meikyuu bug now, I will fix it soon..
I haven't too many of the VNs listed, so I don't think I would be the best fit for that job. I'd be willing to help with the few novels I have read, but I'm afraid it wouldn't put too much of a dent in the large amount of novels listed. Perhaps someone else here on Fuwa would be willing to lend a hand?
I checked a few:
Grisaia no Kajitsu: The two aformentioned pictures needs to be changed.
If my heart had wings - Seems fine.
Nekopara vol 0 - Seems fine
Katahane - Fine. One or two pics seems to be fan art instead of in game screenshots, but no spoilers.
Yosuga no Sora - seems fine, same here, 1 pic fanart, no spoilers.
School days - Seems fine
As for the Grisaia pics, these two are the ones that needs changing:
The picture with everyone gathered around Michiru holding a baby, and the one with Yumiko holding a baby and Yuuji standing behind them.
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You should def do something about the spoiler pics. I havent dared click any of the novels I havent actually read yet, but the ones I have read, do have big spoilers in the screenshots. For now, just go with what is avialable on VNDB in order to not put off possible alpha-testers due to spoilers.
Can you link me or direct me to those offending screenshots? There are some visual novels that I haven't played and I'm unaware of whether they are spoilers or not.
Might be good to get someone who has played each individual game to look it over and tell you what is and isnt a spoiler then. The ones I noticed that were the most spoilery was in Grisaia no Kajitsu. 1 Picture, the one to the far left is a big spoiler, and its also from the third game, not from Kajitsu. The one on the far right is a big spoiler to Yumiko's route in the first game. The rest on Kajitsu seems fine.
EDIT: Also, seems the Grisaia no Meiykuu link is broken. I dont know if you are aware of that or not.
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You should def do something about the spoiler pics. I havent dared click any of the novels I havent actually read yet, but the ones I have read, do have big spoilers in the screenshots. For now, just go with what is avialable on VNDB in order to not put off possible alpha-testers due to spoilers.
As for the idea behind the site, I personally like it. If you make this work I think it would be a great place for western readers to come and discover new novels they can read. It is true that VNDB can be overwhelming and hard to understand for new readers. You should probably consider putting in some information about how to patch a game, (how to install translation patches for RAW games, how to patch if my heart had wings steam version etc), in the information about the game as that will most likely be the biggest hurdle for most western readers. It is also the one thing lacking from VNDB in my opinion. You can see (Enligsh: Patch) and click it to go to the site, but there isnt direct instructions easily available on VNDB for most games. If your site has that, it might be more user friendly.
The genres seem to be jubmled and very randomly sorted at the moment, but I assume this will be corrected more as its still only in pre-alpha. I think its smart to make sure the novels are put in order by translated [lisenced], patched and untranslated once its done, again making it easier for western readers to know what to read.
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Most VNs tend to be character driven, so the weight ends up falling on how the characters are portrayed and developed, but I think a good story is also rather important, and I would say it is the most important, because in order to have a good story, you need to have good character development, they're not mutually exclusive.
Of course. Just wondering what people generally prefer, if there is a simple choice between the two.
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I tend to prefer story over characters. If I like the characters but the story falls flat, I have no reason to care about what's happening aside from the best grill. Obviously, connecting with the characters is important, but ultimately the plot decides the quality of the story, no? Character interactions and development can only get you so far. If, for example, Sachi and Amane's routes from Grisaia were of lesser quality, but the characters were the same, I wouldn't have enjoyed reading it as much, even with the golden common route.
To be honest, I could read a super boring story of Sachi literally just going shopping or something as everything she does is just priceless. That goes for most characters in Grisaia. They are all wonderful.
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When you are reading a VN, what is the most important element for you? Is it the story and how it unfolds or is it the characters and their development throughout it? Can you read a novel that has really good story but "bad" characters that you can't really connect to?
For me it has to be characters. I do love a good story, but if I cant really feel anything towards the characters then the story doesn't really mean that much. Like, I just dont really care what happens to them. Also, putting a spin on it, I am more than capable of reading a somewhat boring and dull story if the characters are super interesting/funny/cool, what have you.
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Euphoria...................
if you are a fan of brutal rape and gross hentai i recomend
What else I felt watching I was disgusted .... but taste is taste.
yeah with this kind of thing, I guess if you dont like the genre you wont like the game. Personally wondering if the story makes it worth it. Based on the trial, I'd say it is. Wont know untill I've finished the entire thing though.
you know nothing about the story from just playing the trial.
Trust me.
nothing.
I dont know if this a good thing or a bad thing
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Euphoria...................
if you are a fan of brutal rape and gross hentai i recomend
What else I felt watching I was disgusted .... but taste is taste.
yeah with this kind of thing, I guess if you dont like the genre you wont like the game. Personally wondering if the story makes it worth it. Based on the trial, I'd say it is. Wont know untill I've finished the entire thing though.
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Grisaia's common route was all sorts of amazing. I have countless screenshots and quotes I refer back to all the time.
Ah thank you! I'm not the only one who does this! I have folders of it on my computer.
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Steamspy's numbers are up to 6,210 ± 1,894. Again, though, this is very inaccurate so take it with a grain of salt. Their tend to fluctuate up and down. Still, this is closer to what I was expecting after I saw what position it was in, based on how the games above and below it were also selling at the time.
To put this into perspective, I doubt Kara no Shoujo 2 has broken 1000 sales yet. That is what the VN market has traditionally been like. To see a $40+ VN sell thousands of copies within the first week is pretty absurd and nobody would have believed it a year ago. It will probably have a pretty decent tail, especially if they plan to discount it aggressively during major sale events. Good on SP, I guess. I hope they put this money to good use. Maybe spend a few bucks on the Denpasoft side of things...
Key fans should probably be pretty happy. I bet Visual Arts can't wait to get Little Busters and Rewrite out there, and to start work on Angel Beats. Too bad for SP that they're being cut out of the picture now. I'm not sure how Dovac managed to lose control of this money tree.
Ah yeah, that would be swell. On a kinda unrelated note, is it just me or is SP really lazy with their website? Like, they almost never post any updates on it, and under their portfolio, Clannad is still listed as "release date: TBA". Seems kinda sloppy.
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Here's a few quotes that makes Grisaia so great for me... cause I was laughing my ass off while reading them.
When students shut themselves up in their rooms, homework and masturbation are the only things that come to mind. - Yuuji
Suo Amane's a bitch in heat. Rolling around in a man's bedsheet. Good for you. Good for me. Hmm good. - Yuuji & Makina
Quit your bitching, Fishface. I'll stuck that phone so far up your ass you'll feel the ringtone in your colon. - Yuuji
I've seen grannies with shriveled ovaries put their holes to better use in the behalf of the nation! - Yuuji
What's this, maggots?! I've seen senile ol' men fuck harder than you move! Worthless buncha putrid-pussies! - Makina
Sa-Sachi! Oxygen! Bring me oxyge... - Michiru
(Is there more about the story of your pillow-raping friend?) Wasn't rape. He had the pillow's consent. - Yuuji
Who are you calling dried out anyway?! Am I some leftover rice stuck to your shirt? How dare you imply that I'm rice? Who are you calling the rice Goddess?! - Michiru
A conversation between men is a very efficient thing. Step one: Both sides communicate their business. No step two. - Yuuji
Well, my mouth might be gettin' worse but my other holes... are gettin' in better shapes, if ya know what I mean. - Makina
I'm an exemplary modern kid ya know. I believe everythin' I see on th' teevee! - Makina
You are a clown, Michiru. Makina will now amuse herself at your expense. All right, Makina, look at this girl and chortle heartily. - Yuuji
"That's right, yelp for me. Enjoying this aren't you? Squeal for your classmate like the dirty sow you are." "Haa... haa... that ice-cold tone... these firm smacks on the bum... yer gonna turn me into a naughty girl." - Sachi & Makina
Hey, Yuuji! Did you really volunteer to become our communal sex slave?! - Amane
My heart is throbbing with excitement at the prospect of witnessing you engage a shark in bloody mortal combat. - Sachi
I'm afraid my anxiety as the owner of a much-craved piece of man-meat hasn't diminished in the slightest. - Sachi
Yes... your manly words left my heart at peace... and my loins moistened. - Sachi
Never mind that! I'm pumped! There's a fire in my belly and a vacuum cleaner in my mouth!! - Amane
Truly powerful words. I could almost feel my heart trembling in my chest and my genitals moistening in my groin. I very nearly took out my cell phone and tweeted "The rain in Spain falls mainly on my lady jane #wet." - Sachi
The time has come... The moment to unleash your "dere!" - Sachi
Gotta stick some stuff in Chizuru's sewage pipe every once in a while or it'll get all blocked up, right? - MakinaHaha. Yeah, thats one of the things I love about Yuuji as a main character. He says something funny or inappropriate every other sentence. Also, how that rubs off on Makina is priceless. Michiru and Sachi together is also incredibly funny.
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So I have no experience playing games like ... well, like this. I just found out about this game the other day and thought it looked highly disturbing. But after looking around it seemed a lot of people were very excited about the English release, and I just have to ask...
Is this a good game with a lot of .. Ahem, messed up stuff on the side, or is it 99% just messed up torture ... things and no story?
I´m a fan of things like SAW, ( not that its a VN) which has a lot of gruesome things in it, but where the story is brilliant. And I´ve gotten used to the fact that VNs often come with slightly disturbing stuff in their H-Scenes depending on what kind of game you play but ..
Is this something you would recommend for people who kind of need a good story or at least an interesting / good setting?
Kinda felt like asking cuz there aren't that many translated VNs that people seem uber excited about so it kinda made me curious.
There is a free and quite long DEMO on Mangagamer site. Why would not you just download it and play, to understand it for yourself? It is not like 10 minutes and that's all, it is quite long and would be enough to understand, if you want to proceed with that or not. I actually decided that I do not want it, no matter how it was praised, did not catched me.
Yes, if you scroll up a little bit on this thread you will see that I have indeed downloaded the demo.
I was not aware that there was a demo when I made the thread though, so thats why I didn't do that right away.
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So I have no experience playing games like ... well, like this. I just found out about this game the other day and thought it looked highly disturbing. But after looking around it seemed a lot of people were very excited about the English release, and I just have to ask...
Is this a good game with a lot of .. Ahem, messed up stuff on the side, or is it 99% just messed up torture ... things and no story?
I´m a fan of things like SAW, ( not that its a VN) which has a lot of gruesome things in it, but where the story is brilliant. And I´ve gotten used to the fact that VNs often come with slightly disturbing stuff in their H-Scenes depending on what kind of game you play but ..
Is this something you would recommend for people who kind of need a good story or at least an interesting / good setting?
Kinda felt like asking cuz there aren't that many translated VNs that people seem uber excited about so it kinda made me curious.
I wouldn't say is just slighty disturbing parts in this game. I really would recommend you read the description of the game in the vndb to get an idea of what the game is about.
Uh yeah badly worded on my part. "Thought it looked highly disturbing" = Went over to VNDB and read about it + looked at some CG.
But it seemed a lot of people were hyped for the release and spoke about it as if it was really good, and that peaked my interest. Hence the thread. I didn't want to google too much about it, as it seems like a mystery ish kind of thing, and if those are spoiled its kind of boring going through the story.
Doing the demo atm, and it seems I might buy this. The mystery element and chilling vibe it gives off seems interesting. The ... Disturbing CG and messed up stuff I can tolerate. .. (maybe... we´ll see xD)
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Because we all have a need for speed?
well I think most players are going to go through the game as speedy as possible.
(Aka the good old CTRL mash technique)
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Hi, i've been having some trouble with the patch. I installed it and when i tried to run it this showed up.
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My locale is on Japanese btw.
What version of windows are you on? It could be that the restoration patch was not properly installed, which could be fixed by a fresh install.
If you are on windows 8.1/8, there is a common issue where sprites disappear and cause errors, this can often be fixed by setting the text format to Japanese if its not already set. (This is different from the system locale)
Also, have you tried the suggested fixes in the "community hub" section on steam? There is a list of possible fixes under there.
Personally I fixed the sprite issue with a fresh install + setting the text format to Japanese.
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the trial version has h-scenes and torture, wouldnt recommend open it in class xD
Haha, yeah thats what I was afraid of xD
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heh, I loved the whole question about morale and stuff in SAW, thats why im equally excited for Euphoria.
Played the trial and the atmosphere and writing was really good for what I read.
Hmm, cool. Now I´m kind of intrigued.
Is the trial version available on Mangagamer for everyone? (in class so I dont feel safe opening that site myself to check at the moment xD)
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This forum is littered with Clockup fanboys, so don't expect a non-biased, objective answer.
It's okay, albeit not without flaws, provided that's the kind of stuff you're into. Otherwise, don't even touch it with a ten feet pole, or you'll regret it.
Don't use the word "brilliant" in conjunction with these works, though.
Haha, sounds kinda scary.
Hey, I honestly believe SAW is brilliant though. Not the messed up part, but the story. I could derail this and rant about SAW for hours, but I´ll stop myself from doing that xD
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**** Edit: After having played a good amount of this game I gotta say, its really good. Its psychologically scarring as all hell, but its good. To answer my own question, it is by no means just "messed up stuff," and I see why people were excited for the english release. ( That being said, it is for sure NOT for everyone. Like I mentioned, its psychologically scarring... And at times, disgusting.) ****
So I have no experience playing games like ... well, like this. I just found out about this game the other day and thought it looked highly disturbing. But after looking around it seemed a lot of people were very excited about the English release, and I just have to ask...
Is this a good game with a lot of .. Ahem, messed up stuff on the side, or is it 99% just messed up torture ... things and no story?
I´m a fan of things like SAW, ( not that its a VN) which has a lot of gruesome things in it, but where the story is brilliant. And I´ve gotten used to the fact that VNs often come with slightly disturbing stuff in their H-Scenes depending on what kind of game you play but ..
Is this something you would recommend for people who kind of need a good story or at least an interesting / good setting?
Kinda felt like asking cuz there aren't that many translated VNs that people seem uber excited about so it kinda made me curious.
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eden* has militaristic themes, and is also brilliant. So that'd be my suggestion ^.^
Second this, its really amazing.
Euphoria Walkthrough
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Had the same problem yesterday. It seems that the way the routes works are:
Choose the same girl 5x to enter her route.
During the routes there will be 1 definitive choice that leads to either a good or a bad ending
Kanaes route is unlocked after completing Nemu´s
And there is apparently a true end, though I haven´t gotten to that point. Wait for @Kawasumi to tell you how that works.