Kurokusari
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Clearly not, only ten backers so far. It's a reverse NTR otome game. Has any of those even existed before? The cross section between the targeted female otomege fan demographic and reverse NTR fans seems incredibly small.
Oh gawd sorry I mixed it up. I haven't spent much time in the weird part of the internet (excluding here
) so I have no idea if they even have had this kind of thing before. Well they just started yesterday (might be today for the others) so there's still a chance that some might back it. Not sure why would people want this tho."Stealing Boyfriends for Dummies"
-Step-by-step tutorials
-Detailed Examples
-and many more!
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I've always been a fan of vanilla so I'd rather not read this.
Doing it because you accidentally fell in love is one thing but doing it from the get-go is not really to my taste.
They really added a spin here tho. NTR fans must be raving for this.
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Anyone else get irritated by the sheer number of times Akihito brought up "the color red"?
Not as far as to say irritated but just simply annoyed.
If anything, the line "but so what?" irritated the heck out of me.
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I just finished Emi's route on Katawa Shoujo and I have to say that I am not impressed. I didn't really set any sort of standard but it's still . . . bad, for me. I almost didn't get to see the ending coming for the reason that the buildup was so weak that I didn't notice it. They dragged on the problem for too long that it became boring so yeah, pacing problems. I thought another conflict would rise after that and that would be the real clincher. Too bad I was wrong. I appreciate that they put a not too negative feel on the disability but they barely utilized it. It became something like a normal trait . . .
The accident was the real cause of the problem tbh so I have no idea what in the world did they even think of using the legless thingy on.
Hide your pitchforks people. This is merely my opinion and I have only read one route so far and I believe there was more than one writer so it should be different.
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All this talk about Aya made me think that it would really have been good idea to get a better closure on his family problem rather than an indirect effect from having a relationship. While a specific route is possible, putting it in the common route would be another choice. I personally think that it would've been easier to get a relationship when you already have one problem solved and it is relative to getting a girlfriend. It would be pretty awkward to introduce your possible wife to your family you don't feel close with.
Aya and Tsubaki are great supporting characters. A little more attention and maybe side stories with them wouldn't be a bad idea.
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Eden* has the best art i've seen so far in a VN
the entire game is a CG
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Short and straight to the point, I like it.
Welcome to the forums!
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Can I ask for a wallpaper ver as well?with my user written vertically to the right
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a signature?
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I'll definitely finish off the Visual Novel, the completionist in me pretty much says that I need to 100% the game. I don't necessarily like only action VN's, I only brought that up since I just finished those, and just noted a comparison. I have actually read what you would call "Emotional" VNs, if Grisaia no Kajitsu/Symphonic Rain/Swan Song count. I just felt like there was little to no character development, and lots of unanswered questions. To me it feels incomplete.
As for the Library girl, I wouldn't say it was because I wasn't engrossed per say, I mean the character showed up numerous times, interacted with the MC, there was always this "I have no information on Nekoko", and then the Library girl would always react weirdly to the MC. I think the biggest hint which tipped me off was "I want to close the library because I have somewhere to meet up".
Either way, I do acknowledge what the Visual Novel was trying to accomplish, I just believed it was executed poorly, I hope Mizuki's route is better. I also wished the sound track was catchy or atleast memorable, even to this day I go back to older VNs I've completed to listen to the music, but nothing here has captivated me.
Either way, I'll post back with my opinions when I finish the Mizuki's route.
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Ugh....I feel bad saying this, but this VN has left me disappointed. I've only done Nekoko's route and Aeko's route, but in my opinion it was severely lacklustre. I felt the numerous H-scenes really did detract from the experience. I just couldn't really care about the characters.
Neko's route:
Maybe I misread something in her scene, but where does she go in the bad ending? She just disappears? Maybe I read it too quick, but that stumped me. Overall the "twist" at the end was expected, they always say watch out for those silent characters who constantly appear, eg the librarian girl.
Aeko's Route:
I just felt like this was too unrealistic, I'm not from Japan so I don't know if bullying is like that over there, but why didn't everyone just band together? As for the MC's "friends", what dicks.
Also I did not understand why I received a bad ending for choosing to "Go outside", choosing that makes Aeko commit suicide, yet if you choose "Stay inside", she turns up for the date? I don't understand why the smallest choice swerved the results to either extremes. I mean, say for example, if "Going outside", meant that you hanged around with the bully girl all day, Aeko sees it, then commits suicide, I would understand. But the choice pretty much has you go to a burger restaurant, talk to a "friend", eat a burger, the go to the meeting place, how does this small choice drive Aeko to jump off a building?
Either way, I couldn't care about Aeko either
I have yet to play MIzuki's route. The game kept saying stuff like "Visual novels normally have characters that only appear after you complete the game once, that way you can do the story after you've done everything else", I'm hoping there's like a secret heroine, because I'll rather have a route with Aya or Tsubaki, both characters are infinitely better IMO.
Also last question about Aeko's route
I assumed the bully girl liked the MC or something? Why did she always call out to him, I don't understand.
Overall so far I'm not enjoying the Novel, the music is pretty bad, I dislike the characters and the routes are short. But I guess this is expected when you just finish VNs like Comyu and Ayakashibito and then head into this, it pales in comparison. (I forgot who recommended the latter to me, but I really do appreciate it, it was amazing).
Uhh no offense but this VN might not be really for you. I believe it requires some degree of understanding and looking from the perspective on the heroines since they each have their own problems. Maybe it needs a little bit of experience and affected by the environment you grew up in but that's just me.
First off, Nekoko's route:
I haven't read the bad end so I can't comment on that but if you managed to predict who she really is then you're either observant to subtle hints or didn't get engrossed to the story, and I believe it's the latter. There are enough hints to deduce who she really is but it seems you managed it from a bit of guesswork and cliches.
Next up, Aeko's route:
As for not banding up together, it started with just Aeka in their first day, and Antoinette already had a lot of connections back then. No one would think of acting out and being the white knight since you'll be taking the brunt of Antoinette' and her cronies' torture. As for his friends, they're the same and just didn't want to destroy their school life themselves. Also, when Antoinette turned against the protag, they stayed neutral instead of open hostility, I think.
Idk if you didn't go for the good end but if you chose to stay inside then, you'll be looking for pics that Aeka wanted. It just simply means that her mental state was really volatile at that point and you can pretty much guess it from her eccentric thinking. I believe this is the byproduct of the mental and physical torture she experiences from her school, and she can't even rest at her own home.
And about your question, I think it's just a way to get back at Gaito for cheating on her. I don't think she felt any sort of affection for the protag in the first place since he was also included in the roof incident.
If you aren't enjoying the two then you might throw out your monitor on Mizuki's route. Tbh it's the worst out of the three and based from your the VNs you mentioned, your taste is geared towards the action genre and not this kind of emotional trainwrecks.
Well these are just my thoughts and feel free to disregard them.
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*obligatory 404 girlfriend not found*
On a serious note, I'll only probably do that if I'll be reading something like Rewrite. Reading something like Yume Miru Kusuri with just about anybody else would be kinda awkward. Then again, we wouldn't be together if she isn't weird or isn't aware of my weird hobbies.
. . . All this hypothetical thinking is making me want a girlfriend. I have enough already anyway in the 2D world ;-;
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what size do you prefer the render to be?
Anything large enough for your request.
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Another one would be Eien no Aselia.
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Welp probably getting back to reading volume 10 of Date a Live. It seems that volume 12 is pretty interesting with the positions switched and Shido going berserk. Somehow the volume covers in the last few volumes are serious spoilers. Well at least for the people who's like me and hasn't caught up with the latest yet.
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Welcome to the forums!
The project seems really interesting so I'll be
stalkingfollowing it. Good luck with the rest ~People are gonna go nuts and say finish love live
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No, in English you rarely do that, it sounds weird calling your sibling "big brother". You'd mostly use given names, maybe bro or something one word long (that's what my sister calls me), but not "big brother".
I absolutely abhor any translation that does this.
Well that clears it up.
there are tons of expresions that are left out and instead they put just some random american slang, I don't think so but I still prefer if she calls her "brother" which doesnt fit with the story, it's hard to find a good term for it so why not just leave nii-san?
(she calls him nii-san but there is this gap between them so it doesnt really mean "brother" that's why he complain sometimes..inside his head
)Oh and one of the Mizuki's faces is really weird and creeps me out
What's going on with her smile on the right? her mouth is so big it looks like some kind of toad or frog
I believe that smile is a wry smile, I think. Although honestly, it looks like she's holding back her laughter.
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was I the only one that played the entire route of Mizuka imagining that she was Yumiko from grisaia? It was really annoying
btw I really don't like the translation of the game, this is one of those "americanized translation" I really hate that...
I saw more of a Kagome because of the confident and aloof attitude lol
You're not alone on the translation. It's pretty obvious when Mizuki's calling the protag by name and yet written as 'boy'. Same with him being called by name when he's called by 'Nii-san' by Aya. I'm not a native english speaker but does being called Big Brother equals affectionate?
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Aye, so I'm still in the common route of Hoshimemo and I'm wondering what route order I should follow.
I'm aware that it has a partially enforced order. I was thinking Isuzu -> Asuho -> Komomo -> Kosame -> Chinami, since I usually do my 2nd favorite girl first and save my favorite one for last, but I was wondering if there's a better order to do it in in regards to maybe some repetitive themes, plot points, or reveals that might be better than what I'm currently planning.
I suggest doing Asuho first (to get it out of the way because it's the worst one imo) or last since her route has the least relation to the others (not including her). The one with the required route should be done right after doing the prerequisite. Well that should be the best since the reason why they required some routes is because there are really some required info if you're gonna go for the next route and it would be the best if you can still remember those important things.
And as for what I'm currently playing is Katawa Shoujo. I'll finally get to realize the glory of the VN that drew people into the
porn gameVN world. So far so good but first time reading something without Japanese dub. It feels refreshing and yet I've spent more time understanding things while reading, weird. -
I didn't go for any particular heroine, just made the decisions that I would personally make. To my surprise, that meant I ended up on Mizuki's route, rather than Aeka's, where I anticipated landing.
I've read Mizuki's route all the way through so far, and agree completely with the "too many H-scenes" sentiment. I'm not a big fan of them to begin with, so you should take my commentary with a grain of salt, but this is far and away more than any VN I've read previously, in an absolute sense, and especially relative to the length of the VN. Maybe 30% of the time in Mizuki's route was spent in H-scenes? More? It's way over the top. After the fourth or fifth, I considered just dropping the VN entirely... but I soldier on!
Now, spoilerish thoughts on Mizuki's route and how I got there:
In the common route, I was being nice to both Aeka and Mizuki (and being a jerk to Nekoko because she annoyed the crap out of me). Mizuki makes a move pretty fast, and even though I tried to resist, it turns out Mizuki doesn't take "No" for an answer, so I ended up pretty committed there.
Her route is ... crazy. I mean, I'm pretty sure I'm going to say the same thing about Nekoko, but definitely crazy. It makes me seriously happy I am not now nor have I ever been in a relationship with a person like that.
I ended up getting the bad end first, which was actually rather rough. Being a feels masochist, I appreciated that; it was nothing spectacular, but it was a nice little sucker-punch that I really didn't see coming. And when I went back with a guide and got the good end, it made me feel quite warm and fuzzy.
That said, I got seriously annoyed when I grabbed the guide and found that the reason I got a bad end was a single incorrect choice: I had the character try (and fail) to choose not to ejaculate due to Mizuki stimulating him with her feet. Wut.
In general, I liked the way the a lot of the choices were structured, especially during the common route, but so many of them (and especially that one) during Mizuki's route just seemed ... dumb. It never even crossed my mind that that decision mattered for anything other than maybe avoiding yet another H CG. The fact that your good ending hinges on an idiotic choice like that is simply dumb.
Anyway, on to Nekoko's route (I only do the "follow my heart" choices the first time, since, well... I don't want to end up doing the same route over and over again). I'm saving Aeka for last, at this point, since I actually feel an emotional connection with that character, unlike the other two heroines...
. . . I didn't know that h-scene choices could possible affect the fate of your heroine in that way. And yes, if you've read the guide there are choices when either choice would contribute to Mizuki's affection lol. I guess that would really make getting into her route fairly easier than the other two.
I can confidently say that Nekoko's route is waaaay better than Mizuki's. Aeka's would probably be influenced greatly by personal experiences so I can't say much but you did say that you feel for her due to her theme. Maybe you'll enjoy it or reopen the scars of the past
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The only thing that bothered me about them is the sheer number. Sex coming out repeatedly isn't something I really enjoy so I'd rather burn through a long one but that's just a personal preference. Some might even enjoy it lol
Like you said, it's reasoned out why they did it so the act itself really didn't bother me. Just the quantity.
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I think the h-scenes here serve more as escapism and the sheer amount of them can kind of be excused because of that.
Still though I didn't think there were that many, I've seen more...
Nekoko's had 6/14 so almost 50% of the route.
Aeka's had 5/13 roughly a third of the route.
And Geezus Crais Mizuki had 7/12 or possibly more since I'm missing the last 2 scenes.
I guess I haven't read enough if there are even more than this gawd.
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Welp done with Aeka's and Nekoko's route while I dropped/stalled Mizuki's.
I only saw two dogs in the heat in her route and some stuff that are less sensible for me.
First off, some strange things I observed in the game. The story was good, that's what I really think but some stuff made the experience less so. I have no idea why but the sprites seems to really lack in variety. I meant that per character, which made some scenes make less sense so I thought it would be better off with me relying on voice and context even more than average. Well not that I mind but I guess they probably had some problems in the development. Another one would be the how the music was used. When I finished the two routes I thought that there was some serious lack of number in music only to discover that they had 18 (excluding OP and ED) tracks. I didn't use any efficiency guide so I just skipped through read text and it made me realize that they used some music at short intervals. I appreciate saving the good music for the best scenes but that was being too conservative. These two things really made some scenes less than desirable but they still did a good job.
Welp enough of the technical stuff. Off to Aeka's route~
Something I really value about her route is her theme and the degree of realism it has. My value in her theme is purely only on my part so I won't say much. All I'll say is that I experienced both ends.
About the realism of the degree, it's something I have no idea if it's purely plausible. I've only seen news about bullying that drove students to suicide but I have no idea if it really happens this hard. I gave it the benefit of the doubt but after reading some stuff here, it seems that at it's at least partly possible. Frankly, I thought it was overblown when I was reading it since the teachers really were being asses and ignored the stuff in front of them. I don't think you'll be in the education business if you can stomach that kind of stuff. Now this is something that really failed or I'm probably just an idiot that can't understand it, the reason for bullying. In stories about bullying, there's always the reason why the bully is doing it. In this case, it says that the reason is jealousy because Gaito hit on Aeka during the first day. Now, here's is when things don't make sense. Really? Jealousy? Looking at them I don't see a couple at all. I didn't see any ounce of affection between then AND there was never any statements that said that "Oh they looked like a really good couple before." or anything remote to that. Meaning, is this really jealousy? I doubt it. What could be the reason then? I don't think she's afraid of Gaito. She managed to pull him by the ear in front of the class. If it's for some sort of power then she already has enough with her cronies and her massive influence. Later on it will be said that it turned to pleasure due to the regular occurrence but bringing out scissors with a mad look on your face doesn't really look pleasurable if you ask me.
Edit: Someone explained this to me through PM and I'm buying it. I'll leave it to someone else to explain it ~
Even when I said all that it's just two stuff that didn't really fly. The irrational antagonist (which is really important imo) and the fact that the school's administration didn't do anything. The resolution in this one is something I really enjoyed. Sure, you can look at it like they're running away but Aeka's too eccentric for normal people. Fixing that up will really change her and maybe not make her Aeka anymore. Making up with Antoinette and the others is really out of the question. Your woman was almost raped and you drove the perpetrator to the verge of death. Not really something you can just laugh about and be done with. If I'll add anything else it'll be the fact that I didn't grow to like Aeka. Sympathize, yes, and may even empathize, but never like. It's probably because I can't agree with how she dealt with things but that's something that's up to her, not me. Still, 2weird4me.
Btw can anyone tell me what he means by him being personality-less? That was something I really can't get my head around since he has a personality imo. Not the best but it's there. Or is just my understanding of the term wrong?
And is it just me or is there a massive amount of h-scenes? Of course, in relation to the length of the VN. I understand Aeka's since it's part of their deal but even that was a tad excessive.
Nekoko's route was something that was a lot better for me in comparison to Aeka's. No, I can't relate to her specific problem, that would be bad.
I enjoyed reading how they dealt with her drug-addiction problem, even the failed attempts. And the ending really packed a punch. The feels and the sense of happiness of finally conquering your demons while being able to show the results. And I did not see it coming when it was revealed who she was. I should've known with the subtle enough hints (mysterious sprite, saying that I've met her before, location of the book where Nekoko's name was from, etc) but I guess the story really got me going.
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Welcome to the forums!
It seems that there has been tons of VN devs coming in or is it just me?
VN reading club - June 2015 (Yume Miru Kusuri)
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It's considerably long I suppose since the resolution and epilogue makes up that part. The term 'long' I used here is relative to the length of the VN ofc.