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Fate/Stay Night UBW Tiger Dojo 16 (BAD END) Question

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So I've recently been reading tru fate, and I finished both Saber and Rin's route with all endings and possible choices, but, there was this specific tiger dojo which left me somewhat perplexed, this specific ending is very open since.

  • Rin doesn't kill Shirou.
  • She wipes his memory out it seems?

This leaves me with some questions:

Where the hell is Saber? Did Rin took her? Did she die?

What really happened?  

Also foreshadow Heaven's Fell(lt) for me (no spoilers please).

 

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Rin really likes Shirou, so she never kills him, even when the chance is given to her (unlike other characters, like Saber who kills him if you didn't score enough points with her, wtf Saber). But Rin seems to like Saber too, so yeah, maybe she took Saber. At least, Shirou is not with her anymore.

Bad and Dead endings are there more to confuse or startle you, so not all of them are that clear. I remember one in HF that's very very weird.

HF is the route where everything about this war goes wrong. Like, EVERYTHING. Shit hits the fan, so Shirou and some others have tp clean this mess instead of fight each other. A new servant appears and you'll learn more about the grail itself. But the pace of this route can be kinda slow. Like, 8 days with pretty much nothing interesting and so many things happening in the last two. Seriously, how Ufotable is going to split this route in three movies is beyond me.

Also, the H scenes! Sooo hilariously bad, more than Fate or UBW! Be prepared for the beauty of quotes like "I feel like a dog!" and "educated prostitute".

 

About the noble phantasm... I think this is about their range. Anti personnel is more focused (like Gae Bolg's heart piercing attack), anti army is an area attack (like when Lancer throws Gae Bolg), anti castle is a huge blast/ area attack (like Excalibur) and anti world... pretty much screws everything up if used in full power (EA).

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8 minutes ago, MaggieROBOT said:

Also, the H scenes! Sooo hilariously bad, more than Fate or UBW! Be prepared for the beauty of quotes like "I feel like a dog!" and "educated prostitute".

Currently reading HF for the first time and... yeah this.

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5 hours ago, MaggieROBOT said:

Rin really likes Shirou, so she never kills him, even when the chance is given to her (unlike other characters, like Saber who kills him if you didn't score enough points with her, wtf Saber). But Rin seems to like Saber too, so yeah, maybe she took Saber. At least, Shirou is not with her anymore.

Bad and Dead endings are there more to confuse or startle you, so not all of them are that clear. I remember one in HF that's very very weird.

HF is the route where everything about this war goes wrong. Like, EVERYTHING. Shit hits the fan, so Shirou and some others have tp clean this mess instead of fight each other. A new servant appears and you'll learn more about the grail itself. But the pace of this route can be kinda slow. Like, 8 days with pretty much nothing interesting and so many things happening in the last two. Seriously, how Ufotable is going to split this route in three movies is beyond me.

Also, the H scenes! Sooo hilariously bad, more than Fate or UBW! Be prepared for the beauty of quotes like "I feel like a dog!" and "educated prostitute".

 

About the noble phantasm... I think this is about their range. Anti personnel is more focused (like Gae Bolg's heart piercing attack), anti army is an area attack (like when Lancer throws Gae Bolg), anti castle is a huge blast/ area attack (like Excalibur) and anti world... pretty much screws everything up if used in full power (EA).

I'll probably like HF since I like when shit hits the fan (Reminds me of Mizuki's route on Dmmd Re:Code since everything goes wrong xoD ), also more cringe Nasu Porn? I'm on it. Other notable dead end was the one were you have to accept Caster's proposal and she turns Shirou into a Coccon (?) or somefin like that...

Also I heard that Sakura have two normal endings but only one of them counts as a "Main ending", is it like in Akiha's route (Tsukihime) where she have two normal endings but only one is considered a main end?

  

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1 hour ago, SeniorBlitz said:

Also I heard that Sakura have two normal endings but only one of them counts as a "Main ending", is it like in Akiha's route (Tsukihime) where she have two normal endings but only one is considered a main end?

I think, there is actually only one normal ending, but you can enter it at two points in the story (and at different conditions).

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1 hour ago, SeniorBlitz said:

I'll probably like HF since I like when shit hits the fan (Reminds me of Mizuki's route on Dmmd Re:Code since everything goes wrong xoD ), also more cringe Nasu Porn? I'm on it. Other notable dead end was the one were you have to accept Caster's proposal and she turns Shirou into a Coccon (?) or somefin like that...

Also I heard that Sakura have two normal endings but only one of them counts as a "Main ending", is it like in Akiha's route (Tsukihime) where she have two normal endings but only one is considered a main end?

  

HF is kinda cool, but I disliked some things in its true ending. I liked UBW way better bc Archer UBW is more epic. But hey, that's just my opinion. And UBW vs HF is an oooooooooold battle in the Fate fandom better left untouched.

I remember that ending!!!! Sure, that HF ending I mentioned is that level of crazy! But just enjoy the trip and don't think too much about them XD And I just started reading DMMD normal version, so I can't really compare HF with Mizuki's route (yet). Eventually I'll answer that question for you.

 

25 minutes ago, Dreamysyu said:

I think, there is actually only one normal ending, but you can enter it at two points in the story (and at different conditions).

Yes, that's correct. I just saw it one time and the game counted that I saw all endings and unlocked the extra Tiger Dojo scene.

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Then again, the only HF ending I need is Sparks Liner High.

 

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3 hours ago, MaggieROBOT said:

HF is kinda cool, but I disliked some things in its true ending. I liked UBW way better bc Archer UBW is more epic. But hey, that's just my opinion. And UBW vs HF is an oooooooooold battle in the Fate fandom better left untouched.

I remember that ending!!!! Sure, that HF ending I mentioned is that level of crazy! But just enjoy the trip and don't think too much about them XD And I just started reading DMMD normal version, so I can't really compare HF with Mizuki's route (yet). Eventually I'll answer that question for you.

 

Yes, that's correct. I just saw it one time and the game counted that I saw all endings and unlocked the extra Tiger Dojo scene.

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Then again, the only HF ending I need is Sparks Liner High.

 

Since I will probably go for everything, I will try to get this to enter points. For now I don't have a favorite route since I liked both Fate and UBW equaly, both had it share of great moments and revelations.

Also Dmmd is really good the only route I didn't like that much was Mink's route, the route I mentioned is only available at the psvita remake (JP only) that replaces the H-scenes with more romantic ones and Mizuki also get his own route, which is definetly the conclusion of the story since it assumes you played all routes and endings for both the original (PC NSFW) and the Fandisc.

I also heard that HF is indirectly also Illya's route? Is that true?

 

4 hours ago, Dreamysyu said:

I think, there is actually only one normal ending, but you can enter it at two points in the story (and at different conditions).

Thanks for the info, I assumed that there were 2 ends since Tay's walk list both variations of the normal end as two separeted endings.

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1 minute ago, Dreamysyu said:

More or less. She certainly plays a big role in this route.

I hope she gets a more in-depht backstory, since her origins and realtionship with berserk were revealed during her death on UBW. 

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7 minutes ago, SeniorBlitz said:

Since I will probably go for everything, I will try to get this to enter points. For now I don't have a favorite route since I liked both Fate and UBW equaly, both had it share of great moments and revelations.

Also Dmmd is really good the only route I didn't like that much was Mink's route, the route I mentioned is only available at the psvita remake (JP only) that replaces the H-scenes with more romantic ones and Mizuki also get his own route, which is definetly the conclusion of the story since it assumes you played all routes and endings for both the original (PC NSFW) and the Fandisc.

I also heard that HF is indirectly also Illya's route? Is that true?

More or less, originally Fate would be two separate games, one with Saber and Rin's routes and another with Sakura and Ilya's routes, but at some point in development they scraped Ilya's route bc budget and made only one game instead. But some scenes did stay in the game, but no true ending or H scene for Ilya. Hell, Ilya even have her own set of points! And if you have too few... bad ending. Such a shame, I would pick Ilya over Sakura any day.

Off topic, but thanks for the info about DMMD! I'm still in the common route, but I'm enjoying it so far!

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Just now, SeniorBlitz said:

I hope she gets a more in-depht backstory, since her origins and realtionship with berserk were revealed during her death on UBW. 

Well, I don't want to spoil the route since you haven't read it yet, but I think you won't be disappointed.

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2 hours ago, Dreamysyu said:

Well, I don't want to spoil the route since you haven't read it yet, but I think you won't be disappointed.

Thanks! When I finish my homework I will start reading HF.

 

3 hours ago, MaggieROBOT said:

More or less, originally Fate would be two separate games, one with Saber and Rin's routes and another with Sakura and Ilya's routes, but at some point in development they scraped Ilya's route bc budget and made only one game instead. But some scenes did stay in the game, but no true ending or H scene for Ilya. Hell, Ilya even have her own set of points! And if you have too few... bad ending. Such a shame, I would pick Ilya over Sakura any day.

Off topic, but thanks for the info about DMMD! I'm still in the common route, but I'm enjoying it so far!

I dunno why but Sakura gives me... Edgy vibes xoD

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