*anoyoruniyakusokushita

Why is it so hard to simply police yourself to avoid some words? It won't hurt anyone, as opposed to keep on using them, which will actually hurt some people.
Also, I'm pretty sure the intent, as you say, behind most of those words is almost never good. Stupid, retarded, mad, crazy, etc are almost always used as a form of insult or verbal attack.

Wait so if getting offended really is a choice, why would your sister or cousin get offended? And why would you get offended? Doesn't seem like you think it's a choice when it comes to your family. Kind of a double standard don't you think?
I agree that it's pointless and I even mentioned it...

You're saying those people told you they were in a better or equal social position compared to able-bodied individuals?
Comparing a lady with a bad odor with using a part of oppressed people's bodies with negative connotation is not a fair comparison. The latter is an attack that is personally harmful and reinforces the disadvantageous position some people have, and the former is a just small discomfort. @bigfatround0 made a pretty good comparison. 
@Darklord Rooke, what I'm trying to say here is that if you don't have to sacrifice much to avoid offending some people, then do so. There isn't much sacrifice in avoiding certain words. Noone will even notice, in case you care about your surroundings' opinions on you. So, if it will make some people feel better, why not do it?
It's funny how you, in one paragraph, tells me how an 'insult' is different from an 'offense', implying that the former is always bad and the latter is sometimes just nitpicking; and, in another paragraph, you insist on using a word to insult people, claiming it's an "excellent descriptive word".
What exactly are you implying here? That we should stop trying to eliminate ableism from our society because it's 'normal'? Or that we should do that, as we are in a position in which we are able to do so? I'm confused.
Humans usually want to be equal to their surroundings. When everyday they see that they can't do a lot of tasks most people can, I don't think they won't feel "limited", at least to some extent.
That's why my advice is to avoid those words not only around disabled people, but around everyone else as well.
I'm mentally disabled, you know. I'm autistic. Thus, I'm not 'speaking for someone else'.
Asterisks? What are you talking about?
Don't see how trying to raise awareness for disabled people is considered being "liberal".

No, it's not. It's a fact. And we need to recognize it in order to help those people.

Well, you shouldn't. First, because I'm not telling you how to conduct, I'm giving an advice so that you can make some people's lives better. Second, because, unless you are disabled, you're benefiting from your privilege within a society with institutionalized ableism. In other words, your situation is a hundred times better than those that are actually suffering.  

Nowadays, verbal insults are the most common forms of aggression. Bullying, arguments, humiliation, all those usually come through verbal attacks. Sure, there are people who are less susceptible to it, but I don't know anyone who doesn't care or isn't emotionally affected at all by verbal attacks. If you don't, you are a very lucky person. Too bad other people aren't like you. 

Great post as always Sana-sama

No, it's not. It's a fact. And we need to recognize it in order to help those people.

Well, you shouldn't. First, because I'm not telling you how to conduct, I'm giving an advice so that you can make some people's lives better. Second, because, unless you are disabled, you're benefiting from your privilege within a society with institutionalized ableism. In other words, your situation is a hundred times better than those that are actually suffering.  

Nowadays, verbal insults are the most common forms of aggression. Bullying, arguments, humiliation, all those usually come through verbal attacks. Sure, there are people who are less susceptible to it, but I don't know anyone who doesn't care or isn't emotionally affected at all by verbal attacks. If you don't, you are a very lucky person. Too bad other people aren't like you. 

Guess you haven't heard of words like nigger, spic, chink, cracker, etc. Some words hold actual power over people. Even more so if those words are associated with a history of hate and making others feel like they're less than human.

At first I thought it was something disgusting because I was new into it. Then i learned that my preconception of love was wrong and that made me feel sad desu.

Great thing that people are debating on this topic, but if I let you guys keep discussing the way things are, the moderators will probably remove my post. Post locked.

You can have your own opinion, but saying such a terrible thing to me and people who have empathy is terrible. It's sick actually. No type of bullying is right. As someone who has been bullying for many years for many different reasons, I know from experience that people like you are what make it worse. Even if I disliked something I would never encourage others to attack people who may like it or act a way I don't like. Bullying is never good no matter what form and proof of that is when people commit suicide due to being attacked or hurt all the time. 
So please, don't use this same phrase. I've seen many similar things before. I'm not going to argue about it with you cause it'll go nowhere. I just believe anyone who thinks bullying another is okay is sick.

I find this thread very disheartening and this comment very offensive and dumb. Any type of bullying is wrong and people like you who think it's okay to shame someone are sick in the damned head. You want to be thinner? Fine. But don't think you have the right to say something so stupid. Not everyone is going to be a thin person. People have different builds, height etc. Yes, I don't think it's healthy to be obese and losing weight is important, but many aren't going to be thin. I have plenty of friends who are chubby and are in a healthy state and are beautiful. 
You lack empathy. I'm sorry but it's true. Just like Extra Mana I find what you say to be very toxic. Please don't assume something for the whole world just cause of your experience. I find that many thin people can be really ugly and bigger people beautiful. I'm not saying we need to promote being obese, but we need to promote different body builds that are healthy. And guess what, their are chubby people who are a good healthy size and still beautiful. 
Honestly I'm not surprised to be seeing this from the anime community. Still I'm sad to see comments like this from this guy and Extra Mana. Just proves how toxic and close minded people are. People like you guys who say such horrid things no little about empathy or or have never had it in the first place.  

By thin I mean underweight, not what people call "normal". By allowing any kind of people to enter a TV program, you wouldn't be promoting anything. You would just make people feel better about themselves and reject useless standards.
 
I don't get why being a part of media makes it "glamorising". There is homicide in media, there is rape, there is suffering. Are they glamorising those things? I don't think so. They are just there. I'm not saying in any way overweight people are like bad things like that, but including fat characters in media is not glamorising them as much as including those things is not glamorising either.
Also, I think you are trying to let media dictate what is right and what is wrong. Being fat is not harming anyone. Even if a person is obese, it's their choice to be, and they shouldn't be criticized for that, as they are capable of knowing what's best for them.
It needs representation so that the flawed beauty 'standard' we have know can finally end. The best way to destroy that toxic concept is imo through media.
Personally, there has been very very few VNs whose heroines I liked without any exceptions. And I believe it's the same with Japanese people. I don't think they will find all heroines of a game attractive, much less like all of them. Besides, a lot of factors come into play when choosing an eroge to play; character design is just one of them.
What??? Sorry, but that's not what objective means.
"not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased"
Just because most people think it is a certain way doesn't make it a fact, nor does it prevent that thinking from being influenced by personal feelings and prejudice. Rather, the whole notion of fat = ugly is a societal bias.
An opinion is never a fact. That's why it's called opinion. A fact is something irrefutable.
I agree with you here and I'm not seeking privileges for fat people. If they were really treated like everyone else, they would get as much media coverage as thin people get. So, no, fat people are not being treated like everyone else. If you think so, it's probably because you aren't one and doesn't know how it feels to be one.
Yeah, there was also a time when white skin was the thing so all we had to do was wait for black skin to become a thing, right?
This is not how things work. We can't let society do whatever it wants, because if we did that, things would be much worse. I'm not gonna wait for a certain group to be in the spotlight because that's not what I want; I want equality, not privileges.
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Rihoko from Amagami is a bit chubby and she's popular xd.
I saw some chubby girls in nukige too. I think there's a market for them.
There's hope I think.

Apparently a lot of people do. Including me. And also, have you ever thought about the possibility of you being a cassgender? Because you definitely sound like one.
Cassgender: the feeling of gender is unimportant to you (definition)

I consider it a vacuous thing to care about. Once we've stopped climate change, found world peace, colonized the galaxy, and seen the face of God, maybe the human race should consider it a worthwhile cause.

 

Yes... But I do not like to use this term to refer to myself, as it has become quite derogatory. I prefer social justice contributer. 

Okay, I'm listening. I warn you that, having stated that you are open-minded (a surprisingly hard thing to be, additionally so when you have a mission), if that turns out not to be the case, I'm going leave the discussion immediately. I personally, can't stand people who do that.
Also welcome to the Fuwanovel.