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I wouldn't be a good protagonist. Those lazy, 4th wall breaking comic relief airheads are more fit to be in a supporting role.
Or do you mean stuff like "Choice: "go to work" / "sleep again", then sure. This kind of choices has me locked in a traight path to game over since kindergarten.
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Some routes have their serious moments, but most of the time it's more like the action to comedy ratio is about 50:50 in the common and the routes either change action into drama or make it a 33:33:33 ratio
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7 hours ago, Eclipsed said:
damned inferno elitist weebers and your need for purist weeb English
It's not about "weebs" (which is pretty ironic to use here, in a niche forum for a niche, mostly, japanese medium) It's about dropping important cultural aspects in a game obviously in japan, where japanese people with japanese names are talking japanese to other japanese people. Cutting off part of a culture just because some people might have trouble to understand is the worst kind of censoring. Even worse if you can hear one thing but read something else. If you localise instead of translating, do it in a medium where you can at least use a localised dub instead.
Some people, myslef included, await a certain degree of perfection if it is an official translation/localisation. If you pay for something that isn't without obvious flaws, you (meaning consumers) will end at a point where you just consume everything, just because it is there.
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2 minutes ago, Jun Inoue said:
That's part of the idea, though. Localisations try to bring the game by adapting it, not simply put a skin and sub over the game and be done with it. In the same way you wouldn't leave idioms or general culture in a localisation (because 99% of the players won't get them at all and it'll be super confusing), you also do the rest of the stuff.
Which doesn't really work for those that understand enough spoken japanese to find fault every now and then. While I have to agree, localisations are better for the target audience most of the time, sometimes there are backlashes. But if you localise just do it from start to finish and not just give up somewhere halfway. Like if you don't use "senpai" even if characters say it and then suddenly you use it and explain the meaning somewhere waaaaay down the story, it comes of as a bit unproffessional.
If you can still see/hear the original text a more or less literal translation would be more preferable, imo. Even when people that would read and praise the translation either way say that localisations are bettern than literal translations because it sounds more natural or because literal translations are boring.
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I can kind of understand where Deep Blue is coming from. As of late more 'translations' are localiszed as they would a dubbed version. And it is kinda annoying for those that notice the differences and changes in more subtle stuff like honorifics as a means of social hierachy etc.
24 minutes ago, Decay said:I'm sorry I was dismissive but complaining about "American slang" when there's absolutely nothing of the sort being described is absurd. There is very little to no Americanization happening with the S;G0 translation, and literally everything you mentioned as being Americanization is actually related to the English language worldwide and not anything specific to America.
To be fair there are more americans than there are english. And "British slang" isn't something you see in any kind of media outside of britain itself. For my part, I've seen a few FTW, FTWs and some other stuff I'd count more on the american side of english.
24 minutes ago, Decay said:an especially unlikely scenario considering the translation company responsible is British
Which means nothing as the translation company is just the company that hires the translators. For all we know they might be Murricans, Brits or even Japs themselves.
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inb4 "Rewrite History: Key all star battle", a DMM styled sociage with bad drop rates and bad artists.
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So it finally gets translated.
I'm claiming all the salt and tears people will spill when they notice that dies irae is not "The worlds greatest masterpiece and the peak of human creation" and come to accept that in the end it is just a shiny chuuni with nazis and complicated sounding prose.
Might still be interesting for a german to see how japan glorifies NS Germany.
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Just now, Baldur said:
Bestsellers are always nukige in the west, too.
I know, but at least here they are sold as nukige, not fandisks, moege with lot of h scenes or something else. Until steam that is, now they even sell nukige without nuki to the minors
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If the sales show any sign of indication for future releases and their quality... I might better start to look for a new hobby.
Boobies and shiny stuff without substance as bestseller... Is this steam or something?
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It's not a bug, it's a feature. Some party member have the passive ability to widen the map range, but that ability is only in effect as long as they are alive. If they're dead so is your vision.
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And there goes one of my future job options...
It's good to see google putting some (very much needed) work in it. Most people at my university use Google Translate on a daily basis, even or rather especially those with language courses. But I still think it will take some time to be at least acceptable.
While it is a bit off-topic: Who wants to bet how much more Flyable Hearts/nekoHen style 'Translation Patches' we will see in the next years?
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For Fantasy: Eushully all the way. Ikusa Megami Zero is a must play for any fantasy fan. Aiyoku no Eustia is another great fantasy VN. If you don't mind sol comedy, Ryuuyoku no Melodia or Shukufuku no Campanella might be interesting.
Soukoku no Arterial is pretty chuuni and the gameplay parts (which are really great, btw) weren't translated by those MT derps.
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I wouldn't call it unlikely to see a translation with pulltop seeming interested in selling their titles in the west, but yeah learning japanese or just leraning to riddle your way through MTs is the better and faster alternative.
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7 hours ago, littleshogun said:
For next VN, let's see. How about 'poison was quite useful useful status' for the description and for the hints it would be MC as demon king, had familiar with blonde hair, and SRPG. This should be easy, and have fun.
SRPG, Maou and blond familiar has to be Himegari Dungeon Meister. Wouldn't "One Ring to rule them all" fit more? If I remember right I was the only one ever being poisoned xD
I have a good one "Dogs like to watch Tetris"
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1 hour ago, littleshogun said:
Your right about Eustia here. But too bad the 2nd guess here was not what I think here (It's not Evangile, and not Primal x Heart here). Well let's see, the hints here would be big eater MC, KIYO, and time machine. Good luck once again.
Is it infamous for the 'quality' of its 'translation'? And is it Flyable Heart?
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3 hours ago, littleshogun said:
How about 'A MC was persevere to enrolled at school with two committees. Had lots of pink for interface'. Good luck.
PRIMAL×HEARTS fits as well.
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Or you could pick one of these. (A combination of Time Travel and Comedy would be your best bet, I'd guess)
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17 minutes ago, Jun Inoue said:
And like I said, it's not smth to feel bad about, or even feel like you "owe" smth to the world. But even that is a bit different.
What I'm talking about is inherent advantages. I, for example, am a white male, and for that I have certain advantages that I simply cannot deny because there are both many and obvious. I don't allow anyone to even try to make me feel bad for it, but I do realise I have a responsibility because being a white male passively benefits me in life (the difference to nationality, which doesn't really play a part). I'm not a saint nor do I dedicate my life to the well being of humanity and the universe, but there's a big distance between that and doing nothing, or even refusing to accept it.
Which is why I don't accept sexism or racism as an acceptable thing, be it here or around my irl. Because trying to make things at least more equal, when it only demands some attention and effort from me, is an obvious responsibility to me. There's no escaping it, people are born with advantages and disadvantages, and it's not a topic or a discussion about fairness or destiny. We are who we are and, then, it comes to what we decide to do. I personally decide to put my little bit of sand, and to accept who, and what, I am.
You might have a point but I still think you somehow link "facts" to be synonym with "responsibility".
Seeing the world in only black and white (no racist pun intended) is one way to live, but you kinda sound a bit preachy about your way of life. Changing the world is all fine and good but "blaming" people for not being part of the change is... it makes it sound like you're forcing you views onto everyone else. You might be right. Your way of doing things might be good. But some people do not want to be told that their way of doing things is wrong. That's the best way to get enemies.
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5 minutes ago, Jun Inoue said:
Do you deny having an inherent advantage due to your background? With your answer, it seems you don't deny it. Consequently, there IS a responsibility.
No. Consequently it is a FACT. Confusing it with a responsibility does nothing than inflicting an imaginary burden on those that do not live in poorest condition. You say we have a responsibility because the generations that came before us worked their buttocks off to give us what we have?
6 minutes ago, Jun Inoue said:Having a responsibility doesn't mean you need to "pack back" or feel awful or curse your fate for being born white or whatever. But it does mean you should be conscious of the fact. You should realise that we live in a society that is kind of sucky for other ethnicities, a society in which women have far more problems than us men. Similar to how many people do nothing when young if they see bullying happening, and later on feel bad cuz "maybe I wasn't the bully, but I could have tried to do smth," as doing nothing is an indirect way to accept bullying, there's a big difference between being conscious that who you are in part depends on things that simply aren't in your control.
Uh, yeah. That's why I said we should use our time trying to change something instead of playing "whose fault was it?" on the internet. Nobody said that we should not be conscious about our own existence. Is it even possible to be unconscious about it? And yes the world is still a jungle. The only difference is that the "loser" gets to whine on the internet instead of being killed. That's how all life in existence is. Nobody wants to get in a position where it is less comfy than before. If you can't fit in, you create your own place in it and if you can't do that, you die out. Natural selection. Nobody can say that it isn't a part of modern society. Saying that's wrong is like saying "No, it's not raining. My hair is not wet and I won't catch a cold." when in some heavy rainfall. Some things can't be changed by human virtue alone.
8 minutes ago, Jun Inoue said:then do not even try to say that you are not racist by passivity or acceptance, as I mentioned in my first comment, because your statement is you literally announcing that since you didn't do anything actively unfair, you refuse to accept any responsibility for past actions, even if they are what brought you an advantage, and a disadvantage to others.
You want to tell a german about "refusing to accept responsibility for past actions"? We still pay for the crimes of some austrian madman. Being passive about something you can't change and accepting it are two different things. And having an advantage = others having disadvantages is kinda cute. How do you define "advantage" and "disadvantage" and how is it possible for everyone to have the same definition?
21 minutes ago, Jun Inoue said:Also, your last statement is plain sad. Now you are shifting the topic and blame, and saying that I should be doing more to fix the world. This, immediately after saying that you reject even the slightest of responsibilities and refuse to do anything for anyone that's not yourself. Good job, you firmly plant yourself as part of the problem, and are proud of it.
"You could blame people, but it doesn't fix things, so I'll do absolutely nothing and argue YOU should be doing stuff." Flagrant logic there. Especially the swap of responsibility and conscience for blame and crying. As mature as your moral standard.You seem to know your way around this area more than me. And my statement was never directed at you but at humanity as a whole. the whole second half was. Sorry if you felt adressed.
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22 minutes ago, Jun Inoue said:
If you seriously think that people don't have different advantages and disadvantages in life depending on ethnic, place of birth, family, cultural background, and a long list of etc, then you are the one whose mentality is quite scary.
I don't think he was saying that there are no advantages about birth, family etc, I think he is more pissed about the "take responsibility for being born white part". At least thats the part that pisses me of. "Take responsibility for your parents not having enough genes to make you some minority without privileges" does seem kind of dumb to be honest.
While we have the chance to make the world a better place, it is by no means an obligation. People can't be made responsible for something that is not their fault. Sure, you could blame neighborhoods, cities, states, nations and at the end the world. Does blaming and crying for responsibility change something vor the better? NO. If you have time to blame use it to change something. Start small and it might grow. Or it withers and dies.
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Serious, now we're at "White Privilege" niveau?
Anyone wants to glas some juice? And While we're at it: no more chocolate for murica, looking at you, man moving into the big white house, those cotton clothes don't fit anymore. /satire /cynism /sarcasm /notreallyserioushere
That's another problem with 'modern entitlement', The Others are always at fault. Whenever something happens the finger always point the other way. "While it may not your fault, it is your fault for existing in this situation" or stuff like that might be worse than racism. Blaming people just for existing is pretty low. Racism can be explained with fearing the 'different', but finding fault in people just living as white or black or queer or straight or something else is the worst.
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2 hours ago, WinterfuryZX said:
Why are the poor chaps from the contryside so eager to cancel obamacare? Do they enjoy being kicked out from hospitals? (strange hobby they have...)
My guess would be masochism or some relict of the cold war. Either that or they really should check their educational system. Maybe they should, anyway. Better education and understanding of the world is never bad.
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Gorwlanser IV
Hexyz Force
Half-Minute Hero
Persona 2
Tales of Eternia
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Tactics Ogre