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    Character Hairstyles

    in General Discussion

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    Hairstyles can indeed make a difference, Hairstyles are like the icing on the cake.

    But in my opinion Hair Colour also have as much of an impact as hairstyles.

    In some/most cases hair colours and hairstyles make the characters look more unique in their own way, just my opinion though.

    Nya~

    in Introduce Yourself

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    I used the name BlackCat for like a month before I watched the anime OreImo. So decided to change it into Japan romanji instead. Maybe that's where you heard that name. :3

    Exactly, I heard the name from Oreimo and Gokukoku Brynhildr

    life changing vn

    in Visual Novel Talk

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    My friend, I respect the fact that you had the courage to tell us about your current state in life.

    I might not have alot of experience in this kind of stuff since I'm just a highschool student but keep in mind that life has it's struggles.

    "Remember that happiness is a way of travel, not a destination" - Roy Goodman

    May I wish you all the very best future

    Salute.

    Learning to Read Japanese

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    I'll answer the last first:  The answer is yes, Japanese is worth learning.

    The answer to the second is varied depending on your talents and personality.  In my case, learning Japanese was easier than Spanish, because there were no obvious common elements to trip me up.  For other people it seems to be different.

    Depends on how willing you are to devote time to it in the first place.  Going to a college-level class, you would need at least two years to be able to achieve something vaguely approaching Japanese mastery.  Learning on your own, you could probably pick it up faster, if you had the right level of obsession, situation, and state of mind. 

     

     

    As a person learning Japanese I felt like dropping my personal thoughts

     

    1 - It depends on many things but mostly your own personality. You can manage to "read" it pretty quickly (hell if you know kana and put furigana on every kanji you can literally read everything), but you will likely not manage to "comprehend" it that fast. There's no set pace, it's all up to you.

     

    2 - I wouldn't say it's that difficult when compared to other languages. I find my own language (Portuguese) way more complex (grammar wise) than Japanese is. The hardest part to learning it is mostly interiorizing the fact that it's entirely different from anything you've seen before (assuming you live in a western country) and you need to make room in your brain to create new concepts for a completely new language whereas more western languages usually have concepts that relate to each other. At least that is how I personally felt when I started learning it but once you start thinking in Japanese (key step to learning any language is to think in the language you're learning) you can get a much better grip.

     

    3 - Yes. It is always worth learning. This goes for any language, not just japanese. Knowing more languages opens up new doors for you in many occasions.

     

     

    1.  It took me ~2 yrs spare time study, and then ~1 yr of reading to go from dog-slow to pleasantly-brisk speed.  Keep in mind that I have never been to Japan and that I deliberately avoided spending time on speaking and writing practice

     

    2.  I found it hard compared to the other foreign language I studied (German) because it was so different from what I was used to in English--Japanese vocabulary doesn't match up with English at all, and neither does the grammar, and neither does the writing system.  But I never thought it would be impossible.  If your average Japanese person can learn to read English (and even write a little though it's usually odd), then why can't your average English-speaking person learn to read Japanese?  Anyway that's what I told myself.

     

    3.  If you have to ask if it's worth it, then maybe that means it isn't worth it for you.  But it was worth it for me.  Here are some reasons why:

    I really like dating sims and visual novels and other games which mostly don't get translated.

    I'm fascinated by languages for some reason.  So studying a language is not boring.  And reading in a foreign language doubles the fun of whatever I'm reading.

    I don't like putting up with the inaccuracies, incorrect English, and/or excessive localization of the translations they offer us (by "they" I mean the professional publishers as well as the fan translators...)

     

     

    I'm learning Japanese, so I guess I'll share my personal views and experience on it.  (I took 4-semesters of it in school, and so far ~1.5yrs self-study).  Also, in that self-study time I only focused on improving my reading... so my speaking/writing is quite dismal in comparison (only basic level from school).  

     

    1.  Being able to read the more basic Japanese (limited kanji), probably in only a couple months.  To read fluently and comprehend though, it depends how much grammar you've learned coupled with kanji & vocabulary so that could take years.  The amount of years depends on the individual I think (how much time they spend to study, methods, motivation, etc).  I'm not really sure if I'd even consider myself fluent yet... I could read more easily with help of text hooker though.

     

    2.  I personally felt it was very difficult because it's so different from what I'm used to (English was the first language I learned to read in, and second language I spoke in).  I also understand/speak Vietnamese, but its thinking & structure is very similar to English too so that didn't help much at all.  I have to completely change the way I think when learning Japanese (like open my mind up more, and think differently? Almost learning from scratch.  I feel like English is very 'closed/direct' while Japanese is more 'open-ended/flowing' if that makes sense).  Japanese to me is difficult, but not impossible, which is why I keep trying to get better at it.

     

    3.  Sometimes it's frustrating to learn… but in the end, I do think it's worth it.

    • Although I came to appreciate fan-translations, I was also tired of entirely relying on them to play/read what I wanted.  So I thought learning it myself would open a whole new kind of world to me that I could enjoy… and it does (hopefully more when I can get better).
    • I also love Anime/JRPG/Visual Novels and Japanese-related stuff so I thought it'd be a perfect addition to my hobbies.  It's interesting when you notice more things you wouldn't have caught before.  Like the way english translations could be different from the literal meaning, character kanji names or anime titles, sometimes character personality, etc.
    • It's something I can keep getting better at for a loonnng time… so in a way, it's a nice challenge and can also be fun to learn sometimes.  There's a sense of accomplishment when you can look back and see improvement.

    I think this is an important question that you seriously have to think about before learning Japanese (since I personally think it takes a lot of effort and time).  You should only learn it if you feel like it's worth it, or it'll be easy to give up on.

    I would like to thank you all for sharing your experiences!

    I have decided to learn Japanese by myself and take on this challenge

    Even though it might take a very long time to learn Japanese I am confident in my determination

    Learning to Read Japanese

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    As a person learning Japanese I felt like dropping my personal thoughts

     

    2 - I wouldn't say it's that difficult when compared to other languages. I find my own language (Portuguese) way more complex (grammar wise) than Japanese is. The hardest part to learning it is mostly interiorizing the fact that it's entirely different from anything you've seen before (assuming you live in a western country) and you need to make room in your brain to create new concepts for a completely new language whereas more western languages usually have concepts that relate to each other. At least that is how I personally felt when I started learning it but once you start thinking in Japanese (key step to learning any language is to think in the language you're learning) you can get a much better grip.

    I am South Korean so I dont think I should have to many problems getting used to Japanese since sentence structures, etc. are similar to Korean.

    Learning to Read Japanese

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    I have been reading English/Fan - Translated VNs for only a short amount of time and there are so many more VNs I want to play in the near future.

    But there are still so many visual novels untranslated and translating them can take years of time. I have also seen a lot of dead translation projects which were dropped half way through.

     

    That's why I have a questions to those who have learnt or are currently learning Japanese:

     

    * How long does It take to read fluently?

    * How difficult is the language to learn?

    * Is it really worth learning?

     

     

     

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