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Sorry, but I can't agree with you. At the end of the day, it's a game about a dad sleeping with his kid and in my and many other opinions that is morally wrong. As for people self inserting themselves on a character like this, you cannot prove they won't go after kids. Games like this can stimulate them more and make them do a horrible mistake. I know there's arguments about how, for example, violent games like GTA won't cause someone to suddenly shoot someone in real life, but can't be sure of that. The girl here is young and kids are easily influenced. In a way, the dad is taking advantage of his naive daughter and that is wrong. He's using her to fuel his sexual desire. As for why it's morally wrong in my eyes, stories can have a strong impact on someone and can influence them to do something wrong or right, depending on how one sees this. Just because it's fiction, doesn't mean it can't impact someone to do something. As for the whole loli argument, I won't get into that. It's far better then incest. To be honest, I do wonder if someone wrote a similar blog to this, but was instead backing a story about racism being okay and that the story can't do harm because it's just fiction. Like I said, even with it being fiction, it can do harm depending on who the person is. Also sorry, but there's a difference between a dad/mom loving you as their child, then them loving you in a romantic way. There is a big difference. And yes, telling the story with an older girl would be different. She would at least have some experience when it came to guys and how to feel. This girl is a child. And it seems she hasn't experienced things like romance or liking someone. It's clear the dad is taking advantage of her, maybe even knowing she won't say no. After all, in a kids eyes parents usually are the ones who know best and they look up to them. I read your post, and if you mentioned it I do apologize, but it doesn't seem the story shows how the father is abusing his daughter in this way and that she's too young to understand And even if they do, that just shows he's a jerk for letting his desire take over. And I've seen this company's other games. They clearly make the games to stimulate their readers.. And I do believe this game didn't need h content. The premise is creepy enough, they didn't need to add h scenes. Again, if they didn't, I'd maybe have some slight more respect for the story. But it's not like that.

There's a huge difference between a moege protagonist and a dad being in love kid. The latter exists in real life. It's not often I see many people acting like a protagonist from a visual novel. Even if it's telling a good story, it doesn't always mean that's a good thing. Maybe if the game didn't have h scenes with a little girl, I could believe it was focusing more on the story, but I'm sorry I just can't. And no, I'm not saying adult content is bad. It can further the story. But in this case, it's will a character that looks barely over the age of 13.

At the end of the day, it's still a game about a father falling in love and impregnating his daughter. Even if the story is good, there are a lot of moral questions about what they are doing. I'm sorry, but even if it's something that might have an impactful message, it's not right. Would you think this would be okay in real life?

But it's still messed up....It's gonna be hard for me to give it a try I just don't think people should be okay with this kind of stuff.

Frankly I don't think religion should be a basis on how you make decisions. And as for the white people are racist part, when you openly support a wall it's not wonder why people think that. As for guns, I'm often wondering how much it will take for people to start thinking about why maybe stricter laws are needed. The killing of common workers, kids, and LGBTQ doesn't seem to sway anybody so nothing likely will. Honestly I never thought America was a great country. If a Government allowed slavery and even after that allowed there to be laws against a single race, I have little hope things will get better. I don't condone people calling all whites racist because that's just stupid and wrong, and I know just cause someone voted for Trump doesn't mean they are sexist or racist. Problem is though this country for many is seen as place where they can be who they want to be. However when you have a president who, for example, wants to get rid of the protection rights for the LGBTQ people and build a giant wall, it's not wonder why people are upset with us. (And note, I don't like Hilary either.) I suppose my main problem with people who vote for him is, your seemingly okay with allowing an entire group to be discriminated against and maybe even killed because of your religion. People here are ignorant to things and often only think of themselves and not others, which is depressing. But like I said, I don't find this country a very good place and until people learn to be more compassionate, I don't see things changing much.

Trump is racist to certain groups. For example he wants to build a wall so not immigrants can come in. I don't agree they should be here illegally. However due note, America makes it difficult for people to come in here. And no, Obama didn't divide anyone. He didn't do much as a president, but he didn't cause people to fight as much as they are now. This election is what has divided people due to the candidates. And sorry, when I see a guy who is hiring a vice president who wants to 'fix' gays and agrees with him, it's hard for me to not believe he's anti something. While I do agree with certain things, I find this man and Hilary to be horrible candidates. Obama was better then both.

Since this guy won, I've been wondering what this means for African Americans, Women, Immigration and LGBTQ etc. I know this may a bit dramatic but I personally don't have much hope for people like me (I am African American). It's clear this guy doesn't care much at all for the people I listed and that goes double for his vice president. I'm also worried about LGBT people and if they'll be set back. Will Trump and his vice president get rid of gay marriage or make those camps for gays to try and put them straight? I don't know. But I'd like to know what others think. Any opinions are fine honestly.

I think you mean Shinori right? The episode that her story begins is 73. It's either a two parter or a three parter, can't remember.

I don't know ho you feel about OELVN'S, but Starlight Vega is a pretty good love story http://store.steampowered.com/app/377690/. Also the same creator is creating a story about Incest and it's Yuri too. It's called Love Ribbon, but it's not out yet. Nurse Addition is another one http://store.steampowered.com/app/485040/. It's a Japanese made game. It's kind of light hearted in the beginning, but the routes are pretty dramatic. Lily Princess is another OELVN and is based off the Little Princess. I found it t be dramatic and well written. Thing is each relationship varies. Some are romance but some are more friendship. You may enjoy it though http://store.steampowered.com/app/449250/. Ebhime has also done some Yuri too. Here's a cute lighthearted game http://store.steampowered.com/app/407340/ This too is a OELVN called Highway Blossoms. It has an adult patch. Haven't played it yet but I hear it's good. http://store.steampowered.com/app/451760/ Kindred Spirits on the Roof is a JVN as well. Also pretty popular http://store.steampowered.com/app/402620/

I get not everyone wants a good story. Sometimes they just want H-content. But it's ignorant to say all OELVN'S are crap. It's kind of rude to creators who actually put time into their work and try to make something good even if it's just meant for fan service. First try playing a good one before you make assumptions like that or if you're not going to play, don't post that all are crap. It's immature and kind of tiring honestly when people say that. You don't have to like them, but don't go around saying they are all bad.

If you want to dislike OELVN''s fine. But Japan is far from being a holy land. Nukiges can be really bad and I've read some OELVN's that are far better then them. Saying all OELVN's are all bad is just ignorant and a bit stupid honestly. Japan have made bad visual novels and aren't perfect in anyway. Their stories can lack diversity, are at times always telling the same plot, and can have really boring to shallow characters. However they also tell many good stories as well, but it doesn't mean they are perfect because no place is.. It's wrong to call all OELVN'S bad and I honestly think you've played little to none of good ones. The treatment towards OELVN'S is also toxic here.