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The relativity of inconvenience


Clephas

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One of the things I've experienced more and more in the last decade as a part of 'the generation gap' is a difference between our interpretations of the word 'inconvenience', especially when it comes to games and devices.

Understand, when I say 'inconvenience', it generally means 'it doesn't have the functions I find useful'.  When I talk to people who were born after the year 2000, it is almost always 'too many functions I don't know how to use/are not intuitive to me'. 

Perhaps the most blatant clash of the generations, at least for PC gamers like me who play games from multiple locales, is the difference between versions of Windows.  A lot of the young people I encounter are perfectly willing to deal with annoying adverts and intrusive programs in exchange for the convenience of Windows 8 and 10 (and I will admit that, from the perspective of someone who likes to keep their brain as unwrinkled as possible, they can be considered more convenient *smiles dryly*).  In my case, those adverts and intrusive programs eat at my RAM, my bandwidth, and record my daily activities to be sent to people I don't know.  I my mind, that far outweighs any 'convenience' gained from the simplification of the system.  In fact, it is that very simplification of the system (which incidentally makes it more inconvenient to purchase and play games from anyone other than Microsoft) that makes it inconvenient for people like me.  Sure, we can download software that modifies certain aspects of the interface to get around these difficulties... but it becomes harder year after year. 

I was extremely shocked a few years back when I played Kami no Rhapsody from Eushully and saw a game that had obviously been designed by some moron who didn't understand why touch-screen functions were nothing more than an annoyance for someone without a touchscreen.  The 'simplification' of the battle system made the game flat-out boring in comparison to other games I'd played by the company, and the highly-restrictive character progression that gave an illusion of freedom (I'm not exaggerating) only made things worse... because the programmer was obviously someone used to working on games with microtransactions.

That isn't to say the game was horrible, but it was horrifying, in that I saw the worst aspects of mobile apps intruding on a PC experience.  I don't and will never like touchscreens.  They get dirty too easily, break too easily, and cost more than your standard monitor.  To be frank, it is far easier to use a mouse on a PC than a touch-screen and less likely to cost you a few hundred dollars every other year.

So what is the meaning of convenience to me?  I am, to be frank, shockingly old-fashioned in the eyes of many because I don't even own a cell phone.  I used to have one, a hand-me-down from a relative, but I disposed of it almost immediately because people were calling me and using money (unlimited texting being a bad word to cell phone companies at the time) to text me on things that could be done more efficiently by email.  I also hated it being possible for people reach me when I wanted to be alone, lol.

So what about a smart-phone?  I honestly have trouble developing an interest in smart-phone gaming, because microtransactions offend my sense of wanting to have things 'paid for and done with'.  I hate subscriptions, I hate monthly payments, and I especially hate having my personal information available to a company that sells info to others (as most cell phone companies do or want to do).  I can't maintain an interest in anything that makes me pay more than once to enjoy the experience.  If I spend $120 on a game and its season pass, I don't want to find out that there are microtransactions in game that nickel and dime me.  I also hate that I have to distrust any game application that cost me less than forty dollars because I can't be sure half the game won't be unplayable without further piecemeal investment of money. 

I also hate the dead-eyed look some of the younger gamers give me when they laugh about having spent their entire paycheck on virtual items in an app they'll forget about a month later. 

 

In other words, my idea of convenience has nothing to do with what others seem to consider convenience now.  My idea of convenience is playing video games on my retinas with signals from my nervous system, not playing drastically simplified games with flicks of my finger.

 

 

Sorry, I rave... but I get tired of all the BS about 'convenient features' that companies use to cover up the building layers of inconvenience in the shit they try to sell me.  Convenience has become such a meaningless term in recent years that it makes me want to scream.

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A lot of your points seem to be the product of your fairly unique lifestyle, as far as I can tell. 

Mobile phones are a lot more convenient when you work outside and need to have an easy way for your family to reach you in an emergency or some way to talk to friends, family or lovers during the boredom of a job where you have large periods of inactivity. 

Mobile gaming is just something that comes naturally from having to carry the device around anyway. While portable consoles are a thing, the fact you have to go out to buy them and carry them around while you will also already have to carry around a phone is inconvenient in the first place. The game restrictions of those consoles are also inconvenient, since mobile games tend to be available to just about every phone that's commonly used. These are normally a lot less intricate and interesting than good games for actual gaming platforms, but they're the only thing realistically available for a lot of people, and are certainly convenient (I'll agree on most of them being boring and overall not worth playing anyway.)

Data mining just isn't an issue for most people. I myself solved it with having a low-spec older computer that I used for work-only or sensitive things.

Microtransactions for huge sums of money aren't too bad if you'll just be playing the same game obsessively, though I do question the financial situation of the people who go for that myself. If over the span of 2 months you end up throwing 300 hundred hours at the same game whenever you happen to have free time, it's probably not too bad of a money to fun value compared to other stuff out there, even if you end up not touching the game afterwards.

Casual players don't end up exploring the whole game and don't need fully competitive teams in the gacha stuff, so it works out with them paying a lot less and just getting a bit out of it too. 

there's also an income issue where most people just don't care about savings and are capable of wasting money that they should be keeping to get a small dopamine rush without having to do drugs. There's also the people who just can afford all that stuff without batting an eye, though that's a bit more rare. 

Paying for them itself is very convenient. After you've put your credit card info once, it'll normally just take 2 clicks or so and an incredibly short amount of time to get the stuff you want. Of course. 

This was a pretty good read, though. I agree with you on most of this stuff, though I'm not sure it has to do with age so much as it has to do with the both of us living in a fairly unique way, lol. 

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I kind of see where you're coming from with the "annoying adverts and intrusive programs" in Windows versions released within in the last seven years, but I also kind of don't since I'm pretty sure literally all of what you're talking about can be turned off, and since most of the data is anonymized and harmless anyway. I run Windows 10 on all my computers; I turn the data collection stuff off. If you're paranoid and believe that turning it off doesn't actually mean they stop collecting data, well, I can't really argue against conspiracy theories, but you can rest assured that Google is probably collecting 100x the amount of data off your web searches and that they're not even pretending to offer you a way out of that, regardless of what version of Windows you're running.

I also kind of don't get the anti-touchscreen rant. Tablets are nice, man; try playing a VN on one sometime. I hardly play any VNs on my desktop since I got a good tablet. That's not to say I don't prefer a console or a PC for playing something requiring more interaction, like an RPG or an FPS, but there are plenty of games that play great on touchscreens, and it's honestly really nice to be able to curl up on my sofa or my favorite armchair with a VN, rather than sitting at my desk. And if you want to see what great games you can have on a touchscreen, go give Auditorium a try sometime.

I'm not quite as old as you are, but I'm pretty close. I honestly tend to think of myself as being kind of a Luddite at times, as far as technology is concerned, at least compared to the people I work with (I'm a software engineer, so, it's a relative thing). But I promise, when it comes to technology from the last seven years or so, it's really not all bad.

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2 hours ago, Fred the Barber said:

I kind of see where you're coming from with the "annoying adverts and intrusive programs" in Windows versions released within in the last seven years, but I also kind of don't since I'm pretty sure literally all of what you're talking about can be turned off, and since most of the data is anonymized and harmless anyway. I run Windows 10 on all my computers; I turn the data collection stuff off. If you're paranoid and believe that turning it off doesn't actually mean they stop collecting data, well, I can't really argue against conspiracy theories, but you can rest assured that Google is probably collecting 100x the amount of data off your web searches and that they're not even pretending to offer you a way out of that, regardless of what version of Windows you're running.

I also kind of don't get the anti-touchscreen rant. Tablets are nice, man; try playing a VN on one sometime. I hardly play any VNs on my desktop since I got a good tablet. That's not to say I don't prefer a console or a PC for playing something requiring more interaction, like an RPG or an FPS, but there are plenty of games that play great on touchscreens, and it's honestly really nice to be able to curl up on my sofa or my favorite armchair with a VN, rather than sitting at my desk. And if you want to see what great games you can have on a touchscreen, go give Auditorium a try sometime.

I'm not quite as old as you are, but I'm pretty close. I honestly tend to think of myself as being kind of a Luddite at times, as far as technology is concerned, at least compared to the people I work with (I'm a software engineer, so, it's a relative thing). But I promise, when it comes to technology from the last seven years or so, it's really not all bad.

Mmm... with the touchscreen issue, it is as much about cost-to-functionality ratios as anything else.  I trialed a tablet a few years back to see if I could enjoy messing around with it... and I hated every second of using the touchscreen.  It was slower than any of my computers, even my work pc I bought seven years before, and I'm big, so holding it with one hand while finger-flicking got tiring fast.  When I looked at the price tag and compared it to purchasing a laptop or a desktop, I could get the same functionality for one tenth of the price... so in the end, it just didn't look like it was worth it.  If I could rip out the hard drive and processor and replace it with something more useful, I might get use out of it... but those pieces of crap don't allow for that kind of customization (and yes, I've fiddled with my laptops too, because they had parts that didn't work like advertised). 

From point of view, all devices smaller than laptops are crap for gaming of any sort...

Edit: Also, I hate inputting data into those things... keyboards are so much easier and those dinky little things designed to go with them have too-small keys  and aren't designed for blind-typing (I have big fingers).

Edit2: I did think about getting a smart phone for the new Valkyrie Profile, but my friend told me it wasn't what we were waiting for from the series... it is just an excuse for Squeenix to squeeze more cash out of fanboys.

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As someone with relatively large fingers also, I can see where you're coming from on the small keyboard. But lately they have been easier to use with swyping and voice-to-text. Swyping is pretty nice once you get the hang of it.

I do feel the same about the price of smartphones, but I only ever play low-graphics casual games on a budget phone to stave off boredom. Although there are some mobile RPGs I think are worth playing on an emulator or browser.

MTAs don't bother me that much as long as I'm not forced to use them, which I think RPGs are pretty good about (puzzle games not so much, lol). In a way, I think freemium games can actually be pretty interesting since they require extra planning and research to get around f2p barriers, and I have a very weird addiction to researching games (I have a dedicated folder for gaming notes).

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