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Fate/Stay Night might look boring because the premise is amazing but you spend like 5 hours reading 'nothing happens and the MC is a sexist moron' at first.
The thing is, there are 3 routes, you must play them in Fate->UBW->Heaven's feel order, and Heaven's Feel>>>UBW>>>Fate...
But holy shit it's worth it. It's worth suffering through the goddamn cooking scenes, the countless repetition of the flashback, the terrible H-scenes and Shirou's stupidity, because you'll be rewarded.
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Well, said immersion is gonna be tough if you don't have at least a solid knowledge of the basics and essentials of the grammar. Of course reading stuff is the best way to get an understanding of the language, but first you'll have to be able to know at least what the hell is going on in the sentence because it's not intuitive for a foreigner.
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This app counts the amount of time you ran the .exe in active window, so it includes the time you spend in the extras too right?
It's not like I spend a lot of time watching CGs anyway. Maybe half an hour of browsing the extras, compared with 70 hours of actual game, is not much ^^"
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Oh great, yet another thing to know how much time I spend on stuff!
So far only Fate/Stay Night included an ingame time count, this'll be useful to know how long a VN actually is instead of very rough estimations.
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Hi there!
Sounds like you have it a bit rough with your family. I can understand that though.
Not like it's of much importance if you can discuss your hobbies with friends!
Anyway, don't be shy around here, it's much easier to speak on a forum so feel free to chat about anything with us, pointless chatter isn't lost time
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Yeah, no shame about having a C82.txt on your desktop, everyone do that.
...Or at least I think so >_>
Anyway, lots of nice VNs you have here.
I'd put my desktop but it's very plain, I just don't keep shortcuts on it.
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Hm, honestly japanese grammar is not very complicated, but the way of thinking and constructing sentences is so much different from western language I don't see how you can understand a single sentence without going through grammar.
I don't know shit about english grammar too, but that's because the sentence construction and way of thinking is very similar to my native tongue. Just try translating a japanese sentence with a random word-for-word translator, i don't think you will be able to figure out what the hell it means, which wouldn't be the case with, say, french to english.
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That's a very nice idea indeed. I'd join in, but I already started on my own path to the moons, so i'd rather follow it. Plus I don't think I have the time to follow 25 kanjis/day. Well for the first few days/weeks it would be ok but when you launch Anki and find out you have 200 reviews to do today... well that happened to me a month or two ago when I started learning kanjis the same way and that was my first give-up
I got back at a slow pace, 5 kanji/day, working the grammar and vocab in parrallel...
Although I'd happily share some of the resources I found lurking on the net here and there (mostly /a/ I must admit, you'd be surprised by the amount of useful resources you can find hidden between the crap):
-Those are plug-ins for respectively firefox and google chrome, once installed when you go over a japanese word on your browser it let you see a dictionary definition:
http://www.polarcloud.com/rikaichan/
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/jipdnfibhldikgcjhfnomkfpcebammhp
-You can also install google IME in order to write kanas and kanjis easily on the web:
http://www.google.com/intl/ja/ime/
-Reading practice stuff:
http://nihongo-dekimasu.blogspot.com/2008/10/japanese-childrenbooks-practice-reading.html ->children books
http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/the-great-library/ ->Texts classified in JLPT levels
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Agk2IH0ZXhn7dDNmSW1BVFU5dVgyOHkzWjU4b2l2dkE ->Various games/LNs/VNs list with beginner/medium/advanced level
http://kitsunekko.net/subtitles/japanese/ -> Japanese subs for lots of animes
And if required I should have somewhere various grammar websites recommendations, but Tae Kim is already very good.
You should add a link to the how-to Translation Aggregator plus ITH/Mecab/Jparser, it's very useful for VNs and subbed animes.
Oh, and I found you the Love Hina raw scans
http://www.j-comi.jp/book/comic/1 -
There should be a topic somewhere on this forum that should lead to Aaeru's article about how to learn japanese (with the goal to read VNs in mind) in 1-2 years of time.
Alternatively, you can read this, it's /a/'s 'how to learn japanese'.
You should be aware that, in both methods, you can do the steps after the kanas in any order and simultaneously. Also, it's not always said clearly in those guides, but to read stuff you'll need tons of vocabulary so you might want to start learning vocab too. There are vocab decks on Anki (cf guides).
As for how much time that would take you... Honestly, I think if you have both the time and the motivation, with the help of tools like AGTH (again, look for the ATLAS guide in the forum) you can probably start reading VNs in a year.
I'm slacking off a bit yet i got most of the grammar and about 1/5th of the 2000+ kanjis done in 5 months.
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...aaaaand shit, my 3.5 year-old iPod Touch isn't compatible with this.
Guess I won't buy it then. Too bad.
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Wait, WHAT?
I can actually buy a translated VN on my iPod, for basically nothing?
Downloading this at the speed of fuckin' light.
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You mean, like, multivitamin... juices? or some kind of pill?
Anyway, as for myself I like a lot to drink coffee (or sometimes tea) when I read a VN. Too bad I can't do it too much, else I can't sleep
.Also I'm usually for some reason constantly hungry from 0 am to 3 am, so I eat all kind of stuff during that time.
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Ah, I only played what's fully available in english yet, so no F/HA for me
Although I do my daily check of the advancement of the TLs of both F/HA and Mahoyo ^^"in order to get some material to narrate an RPG based on the Fate seriesI have a friend that did an RPG campaign in the TMverse last year, with a Holy Grail War and stuff... couldn't participate because of availability issues, but it turned out pretty well.
Although after a full campaign the PCs got really powerful... And at this point another friend took up the GM spot and had to browse through the Wiki to bring stuff like Primate Murder to calm them down
(of course that's because the goal was to make some epic stuff, otherwise the powerleveling couldn't have been so strong)But yeah, creating your own servants is pretty nice!
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Welcome here! Enjoy your stay.
The way I was introduced to VNs, and the way every VN players I know was actually, is a bit atypic: we all ended up playing Fate/Stay Night and other Type-Moon stuff...
Usually it goes like:
<Type-Moon cultist guy>"Hey you should watch those Kara no Kyoukai movies, they're great"
<Poor Sheep>"Wow that was awesome! Do you have some more?"
<TM>"Well, there's this Fate/stay night anime, it's not as good but..."
<PS>"Arrgh, the concept was so good but the anime fucked it up, i'm frustrated here..."
<TM>*evil grin* "Well, you know, there's this thing called visual novels, well the anime comes from that... it's a bit long but it's much better, it has the whole story..."
<PS>"Oh thank, you i'll try this out
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<New Type-Moon cultist>"wow VNs are awesome i'll read more of them!"
Pretty smooth way to trick get people to read VNs.
Btw, did you watch Kara no Kyoukai yet? Heard about Tsukihime? *grin*
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I just haven't noticed anyone pointing Yuki Kajiura, so I felt in kind of an obligation to share this >.<
Well probably because she didn't do VN OSTs (actually if she did that would be amazing O_O)
But, yes, most of her works are really great. Kara no Kyoukai is definitely my favorite OSTs of all time, but she also did incredible stuff in Madoka, and very good OSTs for Fate/Zero and Sword Art Online (made 50% of the epicness of the fights for the latter!)
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Hm, if someone can check for me if they have uncensored To Love Ru: Darkness series, i might be willing to pay for it just to watch that
They don't. As I said what they have is strictly the same as what's on TV in Japan, except there are no commercials or sponsor stuff, but it's still the exact same so they will be censored. (I'm not even sure the BD version actually exist already when the episode is aired >_>)
EDIT: Fourth - Hey, so I looked at this image as suggested above, and I didn't see anything about the Kokoro Connect OVAs that are supposed to be coming out soon. Since I'm new to Anime, where do I go to find out about my favorite shows and their upcoming OVAs/etc.?I guess myanimelist should do that quite well. If you want more firsthand information you can check news website (animenewsnetwork is among the most reliable english one) but it'll only be about fresh news, if you want to check the existence of an OVA/special/whatever for your serie MAL is the way to go.
(Oh, btw, I think the Kokoro Connect OVAs went out at least a week ago)
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What I mean by 'official' is that they have a contract with japanese companies that makes it legal for them to diffuse the anime they diffuse. Which is why it's a paying service, and also why they get their own version of the video and the script.
I just wonder where do they get the video from? If they are able to stream non-censored BD version without ads on the day of the TV episode, it would be great, but then I am sure some of the fan TL groups would just rip their release and sub over it xD (and I didnt see that)I'm pretty sure they have the TV version without the ads and stuff.
Fansub teams have their own way of getting the TVrips, it's not necessarily faster to get it from CR (although as I said Horriblesubs do that)
I can't imagine Japanese companies and producers giving them the files to distribute, why would people then buy official BD if they can get this "official" release there?Iirc Crunchyroll is not accesible to Japanese or something like that...
As for American companies, well as you might guess they were not very happy when CR became a legal streaming platform.
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@Steve: I'm not a fan of streaming myself, because torrenting is easier and my internet sucks, but Crunchyroll does have 720p and 1080p versions. As for the translation, they're usually fast and good because they get the script beforehand (since they are official and all). Actually, most of the subs you can torrent from team HorribleSubs are rips from Crunchyroll.
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On what's on the link both Gintama and Hunter x Hunter are pretty much amazing.
I'm a bit surprised CR doesn't have more shows though, there's almost nothing of the current season.
There're not much good stuff this season... except for Chihayafuru S2, but you'd have to see S1 first.
Oh and on recent animes I'm vouching Jinrui and Shin Sekai Yori. Great stuff.
If we get on older stuff, well... I won't go onto that, otherwise i'll leave the hugest wall of text this forum has ever seen.
Just thought that since you liked Fate/Zero you should REALLY consider watching the Kara no Kyoukai movies. It's Type-moon based too, same studio (except they did better) and same musician composer (except she did better).
except Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita (UN propaganda).Mind developing on what do you mean by that?
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Thank you!
Well then, I think i'll just read each chapter by following the corresponding heroin route, then finish the game with whoever I like the most for the first time. Then I'll proceed to see all the endings. I shouldn't miss much by doing that.
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Hey everyone,
I started playing Sharin no Kuni and I wanted to know what the structure of the game was like.
From the walkthrough I rapidly skimmed, it seems to me that the story is very linear: aiming for a certain route won't change much except H-scenes and epilogues.
That's why I'm asking the people here that already played it: how much new content should I expect from each route after the first one? Is it worth it to make all the route, I'm afraid i'll just get bored skipping through the same stuf...
If there's little new content, what route should I start with? I know that if there are repetitions i'll skip mostly everything and just get the new ending, therefore the first ending i'll get will be the most marking one: is one of them really better than the others?
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VN OSTs have such a big impact on me. They're very important for me during the game, and while I play they engrave in my mind.
After playing, listening to the OST just brings back everything in my mind, therefore my favorite OSTs are linked with my fav games...
Therefore I like a lot the OSTs of Kara no Shoujo and G-senjou no Maou. Just listening to the songs makes me happy
Currently playing Umineko and there are godlike stuff in this too.
And one thing I realized recently: I listened to Saya no Uta OST and it was awfully distressing. Even more than during the VN itself. (I like it though).
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So, is that unique visitors? Because I think I browse Fuwanovel at least 5-6 times a day, and I think people here do that even more often.
That's good news anyway, you're having more and more visitors through nyaa/tpb.
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@Steve: you shouldn't search in animes what you find in VNs. If what you're looking for is stuff like Angel Beats and AnoHana, then just stick with VNs: those type of stories usually relie heavily on character development and slice of life immersion (which is why I didn't find Angel Beats memorable). VNs are outstandingly appropriate for that.
However, animes can't be reduced down to just comedy. There are tons of other genres in animes you can hardly find in VNs, and I can only encourage you to check them out
On the VN vs Anime adaptation debate, I've never seen an adaptation of a VN be better than the original, mainly for the reasons I mentioned earlier I think.
I still think an adaptation can be better than the original though (see Kara no Kyoukai or Nichijou)
Fate Stay Night voice problem
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This just reminded me that we never had voiced Type-Moon h-scenes. Which will most likely won't be the case anymore with Tsukihime remake. This is gonna be hilarious. Oh god. Nasu's writing plus the voices? Funniest part of the VN for sure.