ホアー ビち

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TOP 10: 1- Hataraku Otona no Ren'ai Jijou (~10373 copies) (Increase of 113% from previous game) 2- Hanikami Clover (~9200 copies) (Drop of 50% from previous game) 3- Tsumamigui 3 (~8625 copies) (Increase of 2% from previous game) 4- Tokyo Necro (~8579 copies) (Increase of 70% from previous game) 5- Gears of Dragoon 2 (~6624 copies) (Drop of 41% from previous game) 6- Lovedori Halation (~5428 copies) (Increase of 136~160% from previous game) 7- Kouyoku Senki ExS Tia 2 (~3657 copies) (Increase of 14% from previous game) 8- Sengo Muramasa (~1978 copies) (Increase of 43~50% from previous game) 9- Love Rec Mini Theaters (~1955 copies) (Drop of 66% from previous game) 10- Angenehm Platz (~1748 copies) (Drop of 42% from previous game) Source: http://blog.livedoor.jp/twode_perf/archives/55380061.html

where is this 1 from?

jap producers dont rly see piracy as a major issue, tho

if i like s;g and dxd i have bad taste? if i use ki(ri)4 theory then i dont cuz they sell well on japan so most ppl like it? but if they have flaws, theyr rly small imo.

but evrything has flaws. its not hard to recognize em.

what is bad taste, cuz i saw ppl sayin their tastes bad. i thought when some1 said the other had bad tastes twas cuz the other have diffrent taste from their (like 4 me bad taste is liking hyouka or disliking high skoo dxd). but sayin u urself has bad taste, doesnt make sense?

ur confusing me, r u dergonu?

there aint no poll

i aint no boy, yo. stop assuming things. that also isnt a question.

this aint a question

do ur stundents know their sensei is an otaku?

if you were forced to choose an animal (not human) to have sex and after that kill it, what would you choose?

suck what?

isnt it the contrary? isnt it niche cuz its priced high? i thought the whole vn decline and small market was cuz theyr expensive (CGs and VA especially), meaning teens cant afford like they buy manga and LNs, limiting the market to adults (the reason there is H in vn is cuz the market is ruled by the grown-ups) this is wrong, yo. good voice acting can enhance the vn experience. even if the writing's bad, theres the va to make up for it (it wont be able to heal it magically, but still makes better). i mean, whatd be of vns without the cute loli voices or the teasy oneechan voice? or the moe tics voiced? graceless. va is one of the reasons vn is a diffrent medium, cuz it adds what a book doesnt.

conclusion: gary/mary stus arent necessarily bad. MAL anti-sue pattern is questionable. u have a point tho.

the woman had her friends who struggled and also a dark past that motivated her to win against any obstacles.

in this case, mary sues dont rly hurt much, since character development isnt always a must. whats the problem of having a story in which the characters never change?

ok, ur helpful. so lots of ppl when they actually call something mary sue and thus criticize it for it, its probably cuz they didnt like the character and r tryin to find something to blame. now whenever some1 tries to criticize a character i like calling gary stu/mary sue i will tell him the reason mary sues are bad is cuz they can overcome any obstacle and that makes the plot pointless, not cuz its just a perfect character. but character development isnt necessary to any story. most ppl when talkin bout char development actually mean just character depth (like showing more bout said character), which is needed. now, development is just change; a story can survive perfectly without char development.

i didnt kno that was a mary sue. is it rly that? i thought mary sue = flawless and perfect girl this is from the laconic tv tropes: "An implausibly flawless character and/or an idealized stand-in for the author." there aint anything about overcoming whatever obstacle

im not talking bout taste. i wanna know how it hurts a narrative and why it is considered bad as a pattern. like, ppl never see mary sue as personal taste, its always considered inherently bad. she knows how to sing, she cooks, she can do all the house stuff, shes pretty, shes good, animals like her, shes gentle, and very innocent. hows that not a mary sue?

i get that an author writin for wish fulfillment isnt a good thing. but what if hes just trying to write an idealized woman for escapism (of the audience, not his). do mary sues rly hurt the story? if so, prove me. cinderella from disney can be considered a mary sue, yet it is critically acclaimed. hows that?

okay, let me be more specific: vns probably wont do it (unless its a series and the twist only happens in the 2nd). i want something that has developed a normal plot with no twist, can be appreciated without the twist, and stays without twist for quite sometime (that is, until the twist happened). like gakkou gurashi but if the twist happened only, like, in the 7th volume or something. EDIT: just pick up a random highschool SoL anime, manga or LN. then imagine a second season of it with a big twist like that. i want that kind of feel.

Premise of C+C: "Gunjo Academy is a facility designed to gather and isolate those students who got a high score on an adaptation exam (Scoring high on this exam indicates that the student is less likely to be able to be adapted to the society) mandated by the government. After a fa'iled summer vacation with other members of the school's broadcasting club, Kurosu Taichi and some of the other club members return to the city, only to find that the world had completely changed." Premise of YU-NO: "Takuya Arima is a young student whose father, a historian who has conducted various researches, disappeared recently. During a summer vacation Takuya receives a peculiar package from his missing father, along with a letter containing information about the existence of various parallel worlds. At first Takuya doesn't take it seriously, but soon he realizes that he possesses a device that allows him to travel to alternate dimensions. Is his father alive, after all? If so, where is he?" Premise of Hitagushi: " Higurashi no Naku Koro ni takes place during June 1983, at a fictional rural village called Hinamizawa, which has a population of approximately 2000. The main character, Keiichi Maebara, moves to Hinamizawa and befriends his new classmates Rena Ryugu, Mion Sonozaki, Rika Furude, and Satoko Hojo. Keiichi joins their after-school club activities, which consist mostly of card and board games (and punishment games for the loser, usually him.) Hinamizawa appears to be a normal, peaceful, rural village to Keiichi. However, the tranquility abruptly ends after the annual Watanagashi Festival, a celebration to commemorate and give thanks to the local god, Oyashiro-sama. Keiichi learns that every year for the past four years, one person has been murdered and another has gone missing on the day of the Watanagashi Festival. Keiichi himself soon becomes drawn into the strange events surrounding the Watanagashi Festival and Oyashiro-sama. In each story arc, he or one of his friends become paranoid, and a crime is committed. Usually, the crime involves the murder of one of their own friends. While it seems impossible to tell their delusions apart from the mystery of Hinamizawa, slowly the truth is revealed." I dunno for you, but all those had already a premise that a big plot twist didnt seem unlikely.

yea, but they werent exactly normal, were they? they were promoted as stuff of the genre from the beginning.