[Top 5 heroines you hated the most]

11 hours ago, Zenophilious said:

That's because she is rubbish 

I just can't stand her, her attitude towards people and life, her "problem"...I hate all of it.  0/10, would shoot Isuzu twice if I had two bullets and she was in a room with Hitler and Osama bin Laden.  [/theofficereference]

But what if Isuzu was in the room with Chinami? :v

 

6 hours ago, gijimu said:

2. Sakaki Chizuru (Muv-Luv)

Seriously, why she was even chosen to be a squad leader? Meiya is much more better.

Although I don't liked her, I can't just imagine hate towards this typical, not over the top class-rep. She wasn't really that ruling everybody, she just 'was.' And she was far more understanding than out-of-common-world Meya. So I think Mitsurugi wouldn't be a good leader, but this is probaly not a thread for that discussion.

Oh, and BTW - I really hate your avatar  That smug was terryfyingly unfitted to events occuring at that time in VN.  I just couldn't stand looking at this face. :v


Anybody willing to teach me, how to edit post with insertion of new quote? I didn't know how to do it, so I just put two posts in a row...

[Top 5 heroines you hated the most]

4 minutes ago, Chuee said:

Even if you do hate Chinami you must admit that Chinami-ism is one of the most genius songs ever created. 

It's 3:30 am, I'm going to sleep, but after just hitting play on this, I know I will have 'Oniichanoniichanoniichan' nightmares. Thank you.

[Top 5 heroines you hated the most]

21 minutes ago, TexasDice said:

5.  Hakamichi Shizune (Katawa Shoujo)

Shizune always stuck out to me as the sore thumb of Katawa Shoujo. Lilly is in my opinion the best written character in KS, Rin, Hanako and Emi all hit special demographics (Hipsters, White Knights and venturers of flatland respectively) where as Shizune is just... There, kind of. Her route is a little tedious and we are constantly reminded of how much rather we would do Misha.

This.
 

21 minutes ago, TexasDice said:

The Ikikoi Heroines

They are awful, Ikikoi is awful and you should feel awful for liking,

... Hoooooowever, atleast Ikikoi is short. If someone forced me, I would rather read Ikikoi than anything from this list, since I'd atleast be done in one sitting.

Also, Ikikoi's porn is good. I am a simple creature, I admit. 

And this. Although I just can't put any Ikkikoi characters here. They're just...too cardboard I think? I don't feel them as reall cahracters.

[Top 5 heroines you hated the most]

2 hours ago, Zenophilious said:

1)  Isuzu Aoi from Hoshimemo.  

As I basically agree to what you wrote about her, I still managed to somehow like her (at like 4-5/10 level or something). Why? Well, she was the only one character, which has nagative attitute to my second most hated character ever, Chinami. And that is a really great redeeming quality.

5) Can't decide, so I put them both, but without pictures.
- Nana from Cartagra.
Rather self explanatory. Crazy, unlikable bitch, doing every detective work instead of protagonist (but that is weaknes of VN itself).

- Miwa Tsubaki from G-Senjou.
I really dislike over the top family oriented and super friendly people. Just not my thing. Extremaly not my thing.

Aaaand, here we go!

4)  Tokita Yuki from G-Senjou no Maou.

Oh, how I hated her. Obnoxious, irritating, annoying, everywhere-noseputting person, which also happen to ruin Mizuhas' route. I really liked awkward moments between protag and Mizuha alone, but obnoxious erson is obnoxious and she has to add her 'intructions' to every situation. Ugh.

3) Kouzuki Kazuna from Cartagra.

She was loud, she was stupid (like almost everybody in Cartagra, but nvm), she was annoyingly childlish (as opposed to cute childlish), and the biggest of her sins:
she was a game-ruiner. Every time she popped on screen with her painful' SHUGOSAMA', every dark mood, every little, fragile creepy climate was ruined. Every scene with her was off-puting. Her apperances were like opposite of immersion.

2) Chinami, form Hoshimemo.

No words can describe how annoying she was. And dumb-as-f. Everything about her was wrong. Even elementary student character (Suzuha) was far more intelligent and knowledgeble [I know its not a word] than her. And I hated her even more, because every character around Chinami seemd to like her (beside Isuzu) and spoil her all the time. She deserved a lot of at least shouting reprehends, if not good old fashioned spanking. In the face. With anvil.

And I don't even start on that h-scene.

1) Rika Makiba, form Euforia.


She. Was. PERFECT. It was an ideal. She's a perfect example of annoying character. I never seen a bettter written trait in any vn. Perfection of annoyance. Her selfishness, her obnoxiousness, her loudness, her spoiled smile, her stupidity, her over the top innocence, everything was sooo perfectly annoying. Spoilers about her fate in euphoria:

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That her ending in 'devil end' was sooo satisfactiory. Even scenes in her route were really enjoyable, because the game made me wanting those bad things happening to her. And I know, her good ending, and forced 'love' in second part of her route were really bad, and unnecessary, but what was good, was really great.

 

[Pedophila meet justice//Sex with pleasure]

2 hours ago, Eclipsed said:

Though if you mean you want a more 'natural' H-scene where the girl won't be all 'it's so big' and 'its okay because its you', *shrug*

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Recommend Princess Evangile

Your post made me laugh. Yeah, that's what I meant. This second sentence is really hard to endure most of the times. Especially when you have realword trauma from 'realword h-scenes'. ;p

1 hour ago, Decay said:

 all characters have to be 18 or older according to their legal disclaimers, and they can't break that pretense. 

You sure? https://vndb.org/v7432 Or is it some kind of black market studio?

1 hour ago, Silvz said:

Although I don't recommend this, since I personally didn't like it, G-senjou no Maou has pretty good H-scenes with the main heroine, Haru. She keeps her character in it and made me laugh a little

Oh yeah, that's true! I read it few month ago, so it sliped my mind, but her h scenes was really not that bad! 

41 minutes ago, sanahtlig said:

Despite how it's used in the Western community, I'm pretty sure 'lolicon' is Japanese for 'pedophile'.  Consider what it means to have a 'Lolita Complex'.

Please stay away from that discussion. If what Dergonnu wrote is right, then I don't wanna be known as a person, who start yet another (?) loli-not-paedophilia discussion.


So anyway - thanks for answers, and Princess Evangile is now rated high on my wishlist.

[Catharsis NV for beginners, translated]

5 hours ago, 6slyboy6 said:

(but please no Stein's gate bullshit with you having to guess what happened)

What do you mean by that?


I second Planetarian. For it's lenght i's just perfect.

[Pedophila meet justice//Sex with pleasure]

We all know how common Lolis are. And even if sometimes they are really cute, still as soon as h-scenes starts it all goes straight to hell. I mean - in many vns this is just straight sex (or even 'soft rape') with innocent children. Many times they don't even know what is going on

Spoiler

(from Hoshimemo: 

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Chinami 'bath time?' when protag is taking her clothes off, one of the worst and most painful lines I found in VNs),

 

they're totaly embarassed, screaming 'yamate', crying etc. Not even starting on how big penises are in comparission to those little bodies.
So my point is - did you met on your VN reading live any title, that protagonist who starts 'relationship' with little kid gets some ostracism from society, friends turning their backs on him, or even problems with police, etc?

I know Japanese are strange in the westerners eyes and cute loli are passable there, but there are many vns with tags 'elementary student heroine' or 'sex with children'. If this ain't illegal I don't know what is. (not vns of that thematique, but real life sex with children).

In Hoshimemo, in Mare route

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Aoi Isuzu says to her little sister: 'don't talk to this man' or something similiar, but that was a joke, no serious turning back.

  But something like that would be at least something.


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My second request for recommendatons is some moe, slice of life light VN, with typical structure (common route->separate routes for heroines), when in H-scenes girls are still what they are regullary.
So tsun~ girls still being a little mean to protag, dominating characters are active in bed, shy girls still shy, etc. 

Main point is - I want to see heroines having fun in H scenes. In all VNs I read till now, every H scenes have few CGs, and on almost all of them girls are looking sad/embarassed/painful/suffering etc. They're overlly shy, acting as wooden clogs, end in most situations just 'enduring' (different situations in BJ scenes, but they're still embarassed and surprised with semen, not cracking any jokes during that, etc).
I want smiles, I want fun, I want happiness. Can I found it somwhere?

And please - less talking about what's going on during H-scenes, the better. I just can't stand that totally baffling dialogues like 'Oh XXX-kun, youre sucking my nipples' etc, well no shit sherlock, heroine, protag and even reader see what's going on. Nobody in real life talks even close to that. 

[Root Double- Before Crime * After Days - Kickstarter launched!]

I don't believe in this project. But oh well, I still have a tons of VNs to read, so one less, even as promising as this, is nothing painful for me.