Zoltanar Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I'm Zoltanar and I do and have done a lot of work for nekoHen recently (including leading KNR patch project). There seems to be some minsunderstandings here, first of all, no one sent anyone a cease and desist order, that is ridiculous as a previous poster has said. When it was brought to my attention that there was someone attempting to translate KNR on fuwanovel, I made an account and sent a message to Sonitz saying that my team was already working on KNR and we had already done a lot of work on it. Be aware that we were just doing non-dialog patch (basically everything except dialog). I told him that I didn't want anyone to be wasting time and suggested he didn't translate non-dialog and instead focused on dialog, this is the final line in my message to him: Both our team's efforts would work together because the dialog files are completely separated from everything else. So as you can see I never suggested we work closely together, as that sentence says that we don't have to work together at all. He said he would talk to his team and get back as soon as possible. 2 days later, Crying Western sent me a message saying: Hey, translator complainer, please stop you whining and do your own thing. Thank you. Also the leader of our group said "Nekohen can kiss our ass.". We at nekoHen share our work for nothing in return and it irritates me to see animosity towards fansub/trans groups because even inferior translations, just bring more exposure to works and increase the chances of them having a good translation, nekoHen's old machine translation patches are what brought Eushully games to my attention and motivated me to join the translating scene. About KNR, our patch has been finished for a while now and only thing not translated (besides dialog) is terminology as there is no space to translate to english without leaving a lot out which would defeat the purpose in the first place. Furthermore, we have created facilities for translating dialog as one of our members may translate it eventually but no work has been done yet. You can find our patches at nekoHen.org/translations/ (You must be logged in) and I do apologize for the site's slowness (the site has undergone major changes recently and isn't fully stable yet) but I hope you will be patient. I do hope KNR's dialog will be translated eventually as I imagine there are a lot of people interested in a complete english patch and I hope you will not think of fan translators as evil people anymore (at least not nekoHen). sanahtlig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord Rooke Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Welcome to the forums. Now what's this about: "you mean the paranoidal suprise attack out of nowhere, implying that projects on fuwa are a non safe way to go (claiming that happened to all former attempts) & will get sued directly by eushully...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoltanar Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 What I posted above was my whole communication with Sonitz's team (3 messages), so I don't know anything about that, furthermore, I'm not an active member of Fuwanovel as you can see so I don't know anything about Fuwa's projects. Despite my love for japanese media, I don't spend much time in forums about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReaper Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 sry ím bit in a hurry but - regarding kiss our ass - guess thats been AFTER he got several mails from your comrades (or you?), stating that all former attempts on translating eushully´s games, started on fuwanovel, have been killed by getting C&D´s & stuff like that - suggesting THAT we should go over to your site for safetys sake. also i´ve nothing to do with his manners, as i stay relatively polite, as long as i wont get pissed off. - "you mean the paranoidal suprise attack out of nowhere, implying that projects on fuwa are a non safe way to go (claiming that happened to all former attempts) & will get sued directly by eushully...." like stated above.getting mails includes myself, too. dunno about the other members though. dunno either if we just misunderstood anything, but its a fact that i had a veeeeery long talk afterwards with sonitz & it took me great effords calming him down abit. guess its been not enough, as he´s mia now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoltanar Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I'm very sorry if any of my members did that and I will tell them to not do that in the future, I don't know how many messages you got but my team was just 4 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord Rooke Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 A happy resolution... almost Also Fuwa doesn't have any projects. Any fan-translation team can use Fuwa’s boards as a means to advertise their team’s progress, but Fuwa doesn’t take ownership of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReaper Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 already saw the 3 mails from you before & there´s been nothing wrong with them. i also apologize, for talking down your patch(es) before really informing myself regarding their quality, basically implying they were just machine translated, which you denied. therefore again sry. also showing here up & talking things through is a nice move from you - would have been nice, too, if your comrade ero wouldnt have sent me them mails in the first place, which i showed sonitz afterwards, like he did with yours - leading to a major headache... After all theres nothing else to say from my site, i dont even know for sure if they´ve truly been the reason why he went mia in the first place, or whatoever shit hit his fan. cant & wont speak for the other 2, but i dont like that issue (which lies in the past now) to escalate into some sort of flamewar, regarding who provides the better/safer environment for fantranslations & stuff, as we have more serious things to do, like getting some new members on board etc... have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12kami Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 then there's no problem between fuwa and neko for KNR project right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord Rooke Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 There was never any problem between Fuwanovel and Nekohen, the disagreement was between two (or more) translation groups. Issue seems mostly resolved now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryingWestern Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Still don't like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord Rooke Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Correction - The issue seems partially resolved now XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12kami Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 well.even you dislike each other,i just hope you dont keep fighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamedWolf Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Well we wish it to be translated so I hope it will. Since this problem is most likely resolved due to two parties explaining themselves, I really hope that this will get us back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stikering Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Umm... is this project get picked by someone, or no one willing to take it? just my curiosity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenophilious Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 They don't have a translator anymore, man. They also don't have the partially translated scripts, so they gotta start over from scratch. Looks like we need to redo the entire thing, /user/13356-sonitz/" title="">Sonitz vanished, and no one has had contact with lighteningOne (<--- both of which probably made a runnner), the two that has the translated work... No one else had a copy of them. So at the moment, i'm trying to start the project again with GLM and reaper, while looking for some more translators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReaper Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 nah we have a translator, but he´s currently on a vacation, to be more specific he´s hiking in indonesia & unless google comes up with their plans to make wifi available everywhere through mobile balloons in the very next days, we/you simply have to wait abit until he´s back. have a nice day edit: anyone who´s willing to contribute to the project is still welcome to do so. just let cry or me know by sending a short mail (not glm for reasons stated above) & we´ll see together where to put you. - additional translator(s) - additional editor(s) - guys & gals who like to do public relations thank you in advance. 12kami and Sonitz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenophilious Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Herp derp. Sorry, GLM! This is what lack of sleep does to people. You guys want me to update the title of the thread for you so people can tell that you're recruiting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReaper Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 yop would be nice & if there´s a little time available, i´m going to make a new thread, cause this one only brings back unpleasent memories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stikering Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Indonesia? Well, there's not much wifi there. Even if there is wifi, it's usualy slow, i know bcs i live in indonesia. Ill talk to my friend about it, maybe we can be of some help. Just maybe, don't give too much hope pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReaper Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 if you are somewhat confident in your skills, means either having a good grasp of japanese, able to translate without causing the editor/tlc to freak out, or able doing other helpful stuff, like beeing well versed in technical aspects, than there´s nothing wrong in contacting one of us. & regarding glm, he should be almost back from his holiday trip, lets see what will happen when the time comes. have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stikering Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Yeah, i'll do that. Have a nice day too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonitz Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 I'm so sorry for not updating the post. I will try to pick up the pace and deliver the contents on time. 12kami, Revyateil and XReaper 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revyateil Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 ooooh so nice to see you guys are revived! Good luck with the project guys, can't wait to play another Eushully game sometime in the future! Sonitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonitz Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 ooooh so nice to see you guys are revived! Good luck with the project guys, can't wait to play another Eushully game sometime in the future! Thanks, we won't let you guys down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamedWolf Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Still waiting for this game to be translated as well as the other Eushully games. Give your best translation team! Sonitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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