Avil Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 I wouldn't call those protagonist "flat" they are obviously pathetic, it seems like they exist only to be humiliated and mistreated by every heroine without ever thinking of doing something for themselves. They never hate or dislike anyone and forgive everything, no dreams no plans for their future. Those flat mc's might be ok for a nukige but not for better vn's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arakura Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I will be going back to it though Probably didn't give it enough time. You should. G-Senjou surprised me, and not because of some twist or anything. As I understood more the whole landscape of the vn changed. Reasons I drop vns... either they inexplicably bore me or the characters just don't make enough sense. Or all the interactions are absurdly roundabout (Katahane...) I don't like to drop things, but I will if it's seriously troubling to read more. Most of the time I just put it off until I can't really come back without restarting it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERO! Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 netorare, scat, gory rape, canniballism, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimDito Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 In order; 1. Hideous art. Prime example: The original Higurashi's and Umineko's. Although I have low standards for artstyle, some are just too cringeworthy to bother with. You know you're lying to yourself when you think "the art doesn't matter" in visual novel storytelling. I consider it most important, since I'll be looking at the art 100% of the time. I don't want to look at shit 100% of the time. 2. Unrelatable/unlikable/generally asshole protagonist. Prime example: School Days. Readers project themselves into the protagonist. VNs are, in a way, play-pretend, and no one wants to embody a person they don't like. Doesn't have to be a good guy, but he needs to be either relatable or likable, or better yet, both. People seem to have this problem with FSN, oddly enough, I don't. 3. Horrible/inconsistent writing or translation. Prime example: Rewrite. Self explanatory, both in narrative and general plot. Maybe don't get 3 different people to write the sodding story for you? I also have problems reading G-Senjou and Sharin (both AkabeiSoft2 strangely), no clue whether or not it's just the translation. P.S. Everything is subjective. P.P.S. To all Rewrite fans who keep pestering me to continue Rewrite because Terra and Moon pays off; Go f*** yourself. Mr. Meogii 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinovaA Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I never really "drop" anything. I stall on everything. I will ALWAYS attempt to finish something I have started though. Even if it takes me a year. Hell, it took me a year and a half to finish Fate/Stay Night, which was my first VN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhiroo Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Characters, be that either the protag or others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satsuki Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 You should. G-Senjou surprised me, and not because of some twist or anything. As I understood more the whole landscape of the vn changed. Reasons I drop vns... either they inexplicably bore me or the characters just don't make enough sense. Or all the interactions are absurdly roundabout (Katahane...) I don't like to drop things, but I will if it's seriously troubling to read more. Most of the time I just put it off until I can't really come back without restarting it I actually dropped G-senjou because I couldn't take the way too serious plot of it (I'm more into light story), though I do admit if I cast that aside, it will be really interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avil Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 I actually dropped G-senjou because I couldn't take the way too serious plot of it (I'm more into light story), though I do admit if I cast that aside, it will be really interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulJustIn Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I stall a vn when i tired to continue .............. after awhile if didn't continue , i drop it . . . . . until i have the curiosity or interest to that vn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funyarinpa Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 If it's slippery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMN Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 haven't really dropped any VNs since i have an obsession of finishing everything i started.even if the plot bores the hell out of me,i'd still read it...slowly... When the cuteness r overused(Mio's route in Sakusaku) you just couldn't handle the retardedness moe in that route Monmon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub-zer0 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I don't tend to drop what I pick( I'm really picky with my VN and I always look on vndb for some clues as to how they are), but I would 100% drop if the MC is a douche/ dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulless Watcher Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 There isn't really a single "thing" that makes me drop a vn, I can deal with alot (rape, gore, dushbag characters). The main reason I drop a vn would be its' inability to hold my attention (which I don't have a large span of). Even than I try and pick it up again after a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avil Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 Most users here are really faithful to vns, I drop like half of the vns I download... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssal Monkey Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Most users here are really faithful to vns, I drop like half of the vns I download... That's probably because, like me, we do minimal research on whether or not a VN suits our taste. The nakige and utsuge, yaoi and BL, and other tags are instant ignores from me. It's the reason why I wll never pick up, and thus never drop a Key VN again. You don't watch everything you see on TV, in a similar fashion, you don't read every VN. The people with higher ratios are just better at distinguishing these traits, and considering how we've come to the niche of visual novels in the first place, we probably know exactly what we want and can filter out most of what we would drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famichip Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I usually drop a VN if the common route is too long + uninteresting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XReaper Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 my moodkiller no1 is when the heroines are too overpowered in comparison to the worthless protag. please don´t get me wrong here, i´m nowhere against a capable female cast, but when the contrast between the genders is too overwhelming to be true, then it pretty much sucks balls. Avil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Ashfyre Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Quite a couple of reasons actually: - Boring and/or unrelatable MC Example: Yuuji from Grisaia. Just an underwhelming, boring excuse of a protagonist if ever I've seen one. Not once did I feel genuinely engaged by him or even that he honestly cared about what was happening around him. - No worthwhile plot Now, I'm actually willing to give a little ground plot-wise IF the characters are fun, can make me laugh, etc, (Take Alcot's My Girlfriend is the President. No plot worth speaking of, but it was a fun ride nonetheless.) Example: School Days. 'Nuff said. - Doesn't live up to its potential Example: Da Capo Particularly Da Capo II, which just had the most unbearable, thick-headed MC I have ever had the displeasure of slogging through, and that's saying a lot. That aside, the Da Capo series does have significant potential, and yet it keeps getting rehashed in the same fashion, over and over again, as if the creators are scared to try anything new for fear of alienating their base. If they took a page out of a series like ef and put some genuine trauma and the like into their story, it could make for a much more interesting read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERO! Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 my moodkiller no1 is when the heroines are too overpowered in comparison to the worthless protag. please don´t get me wrong here, i´m nowhere against a capable female cast, but when the contrast between the genders is too overwhelming to be true, then it pretty much sucks balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avil Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Shirou gave the worst impression in the first route: he seemed weak, sexist and completely useless but in UBW he took a level in badass and showed us the reason why he is like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakimichi Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 When theres too much information being thrown at you and it still doesn't make sense halfway through. When the story jumps to a critical point in the beginning that leaves you a lot of questions that needs answering. When theres too much dialogue/interaction between two characters that kills the exciting build-up. When a certain route just drops a spoiler bomb at you and ruins the whole experience. Nukige. Perverted MC. (My girlfriend is a president). Dumb MC with piss-poor attitude. Boring and uninteresting, often over-used character templates with no redeeming attribute with the romanced characters. Bad Art and music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Meogii Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Prejudice mostly. I remember a time when I thought "My girlfriend is the president " was crap until I got through the prologue. This was only after I stalled it for about a month after starting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Meogii Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 If it's slippery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Meogii Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 - No worthwhile plot Now, I'm actually willing to give a little ground plot-wise IF the characters are fun, can make me laugh, etc, (Take Alcot's My Girlfriend is the President. No plot worth speaking of, but it was a fun ride nonetheless.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suikashoujo Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Yeah, I don't know how long I would have stuck with My Girlfriend is the President if I hadn't just come off of MLA and been in desperate need of something light and funny. It wasn't the best comedy I've ever seen in my life, but I just needed something happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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