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On 7/9/2017 at 4:51 AM, DharmaFreedom said:

 

Now this is pretty bad, I mean they bring the dolls home to their families. They shirk their children and wives in favour of being with the dolls, pretty selfish and awful of those among them that do that.

I mean, it sounds like his his wife isn't really giving him any love either, lol. It also doesn't sound like he's really shirking his children. Who cares if they think his hobby (or whatever it is) is weird...

 

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2 hours ago, arakura said:

I mean, it sounds like his his wife isn't really giving him any love either, lol. It also doesn't sound like he's really shirking his children. Who cares if they think his hobby (or whatever it is) is weird...

 

I think they shirk [avoid or neglect (a duty or responsibility)] by bringing life size love dolls home. I think its really damaging to young children to have their fathers do that when they have wives or even otherwise. Fatherhood goes beyond simply clothing, feeding and sending them to school.

You have to also protect your children as much as you can from things that may traumatise them. If the kids are adults and out of the house then its fine. Still... doing that when you have a wife is something incomprehensible to me. 

I think the reasons why his wife isn't giving him love is a question only they can answer. Normally people would try to work through the problem, separate or get a divorce. Not bring a love doll home . 

Personally, I think if you aren't harming anyone in any way, go love the doll all you want, its your life. When you have a family though, its a different matter entirely. 

Ps: I think in the articles I mentioned in that post, it shows some of them living in separate places from their families to stay with their dolls. Anyway there's a number of articles out there for people to google if they're interested. :sachi:

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"When my daughter realised it wasn't a giant Barbie doll, she freaked out and said it was gross-but now she's old enough to share Mayu's clothes".

*cringe* :marie:

 

 

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On 7/15/2017 at 9:44 PM, DharmaFreedom said:

I think the reasons why his wife isn't giving him love is a question only they can answer. Normally people would try to work through the problem, separate or get a divorce. Not bring a love doll home . 

I'm pretty sure they're staying together for stability for the children. You seem to think that because he's turned to an odd form of relief makes him a bad guy. I hardly think that he's doing any real damage to his children, from what I've read. Again, who cares if they think his hobby is weird. It's much better that he takes care of his own mental health via coping mechanisms and continue to provide for them. Which he is, right? 

I think the alternative, which is a reality for a lot of families, is that the parents either divorce and cause a lot of damage to the children, or they live very unhappy lives. I think it's good that he's finding a way to help himself meet his needs for love when his wife is not apparently willing to. It just seems like you've demonized this guy because you think it's weird. 

I'm just going from what was said in the article, since I don't really care to read a bunch of different accounts. In the first place my comment was aimed at this specific situation. Sex dolls are pretty strange, but people are too. They have all sorts of needs and get all sorts of twisted when those aren't met. I'm glad he's finding a way to meet them that isn't hurting anyone (no, his children thinking it's strange is not actually traumatizing them).

As for the reasons his wife isn't giving him any love? I don't think they really matter. Most likely they just don't love each other anymore, but they love their children enough to stay together.

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1 hour ago, arakura said:

It just seems like you've demonized this guy because you think it's weird. 

Well I posted about a single guy and a sex doll before that post, in support of it. I thought it was admirable of him to live how he wants, he wasn't affecting anybody in a bad way. I don't even think its weird, its just different [I never once said it was weird actually :wafuu:]. 

 

You don't think it traumatises the kids, I think it does. Its just a difference of opinion that are both possible, depending on circumstances.

 Let me make it clear though, I have nothing against people liking sex dolls, I've mentioned it in my previous post, it isn't about that.  People can do what they want as long as they aren't hurting others, or get off on others getting hurt.

I've had my own experience regarding trauma, personally and through working with single parent households that have shaped the way I think about these things. I'm sure you have your own experiences, that shaped your own opinions of matters such as this too [regarding families and trauma]. I respect your stance on it mate. Cheers! :sachi:

 

@Jun Inoue I just read your post below, i figure i'll comment here instead of posting again :sachi:, yeah I do believe that it isn't a hobby for them. They love the dolls and consider them partners [regarding the article]. One of the men [a married father of two] said that he wouldn't cheat on the doll because he considers her human and doesn't want to destroy what he has with her.  

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43 minutes ago, arakura said:

I'm pretty sure they're staying together for stability for the children. You seem to think that because he's turned to an odd form of relief makes him a bad guy. I hardly think that he's doing any real damage to his children, from what I've read. Again, who cares if they think his hobby is weird. It's much better that he takes care of his own mental health via coping mechanisms and continue to provide for them. Which he is, right? 

I think the alternative, which is a reality for a lot of families, is that the parents either divorce and cause a lot of damage to the children, or they live very unhappy lives. I think it's good that he's finding a way to help himself meet his needs for love when his wife is not apparently willing to. It just seems like you've demonized this guy because you think it's weird. 

I'm just going from what was said in the article, since I don't really care to read a bunch of different accounts. In the first place my comment was aimed at this specific situation. Sex dolls are pretty strange, but people are too. They have all sorts of needs and get all sorts of twisted when those aren't met. I'm glad he's finding a way to meet them that isn't hurting anyone (no, his children thinking it's strange is not actually traumatizing them).

As for the reasons his wife isn't giving him any love? I don't think they really matter. Most likely they just don't love each other anymore, but they love their children enough to stay together.

Staying together for the kids can be far, far worse for the children than a good divorce. Especially if you "stay together for the kids" but dad's method of coping with it is escapism from reality with a sex doll, which by itself already sounds somewhat unhealthy. If there's one thing in those comments and "interviews" in common, is that all those men seem to be introducing a real person inside inanimate dolls, replacing human interaction for a controlled, imagined one. I'm no psychologist, but I believe that most, especially now in the high wave of the digital era, warn about the dangers of depending or losing yourself too much in make-do relations instead of real ones.

To me, it's not about being weird or not, but about how incredibly unhealthy it sounds to become a person whose closest relationship is a made-up one by yourself with a doll. A notable exception, I believe, are those cases where the person in question is truly lonely and with not many options, like the elderly. Maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't look like just a hobby in most of the cases.

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