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Haha, double post. lolZenophilious ---- My sister has been insisting that I watch Sword Art Online. As a direct consequence I've decided to watch Log Horizon. Now tell me I'm a wonderful h

Last week, had my occasional anime marathon with my friend. We watched three shows, two of which were new for me. First show was Made in Abyss. At first I thought it was going to be full of furry

Watched both seasons of "I Can't Understand What My Husband Is Saying" today.  

Back at 2018, I did binge both of Isekai Shokodou and Takunomi at Youtube, although as of now unfortunate we can't watch the former completely from Youtube. As for the type of the anime, both of them were deal with cuisine. Let me try to describe it here below.

In Isekai Shokodou we have the setting that there's a restaurant that did have the door that was connected to another world, and that the door was only appear at each Saturday. Our MC is a middle age (At 40's) chef who cook at that restaurant, and his costumers consist of human from the Earth and some characters from the another world. He also got the half demon and a black dragon as the waitresses, and each episode did consist which food that each characters favor. It didn't have much plot though, but instead we obviously have food porn. Another interesting thing to note is that the other world technology was still like in usual RPG (Around 15th centuries maybe), while the chef himself did live at 2015 (Based on first edition novel publish year) so obviously the other world characters themselves find the food are very exotic and delicious (So much that some of them did keep the door's existance as the secret) while for us it's just the normal foods. So in the end while there's no much interaction between the characters, it's still interesting to watch for of how another world people react with normal food that we have.

I would say that Takunomi here did it better at characters interaction, because instead of several characters who eat the food we only have four main casts which all of them were women at the working age (More than 20 yo). The MC is a blue haired woman who came to Tokyo in order to work there, and she did live together with other three women in a share house. While it did depict some interesting thing like what the MC have gone through in her daily life, ultimately since I mention cuisine it should be obvious that there'll be food somewhere. And by food I mean something that could accompany alcohol drinks that the four women drank at each episode. Yeah this anime did sort of functioning as alcohol drink (ie beer, wine) promotion, which is interesting if you like alcohol and want to know more (Unfortunately I don't know any and not interesting to learn more, so all if the information were lost on me). So what I can conclude is that Takunomi here is like Koufukku Graffiti only with alcohol drink (Maybe).

I think that all for my comments here, and both of anime were episodic so you can watch those two anime easily without worrying about the story.

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The Made in Abyss subs were apparently bad enough to kill any desire for me to watch anime for a few months, but I finally revived them by picking up the recent blu ray release of Hataraki Man, and boy am I glad I did. The show is a delight and satisfies my hunger for shows about ordinary working stiffs. The characters are super relatable for me, though they may be less so for the rest of this forum... but whatever. I think I'm five episodes in, and they're at a point where they're going around focusing on individual characters for each episode, and each character so far has gotten solid growth out of their single episode. So if that's your thing, it's a particularly enjoyable watch.

Worth mentioning that the subs are great. I get so used to seeing subs that read like crap nowadays (which I'm sure is at least in part due to the natural result of our race to the bottom on quality: simulcasts) that it's always surprising when I watch something with actually enjoyable subs. They even subbed all the (rather nice) background music lyrics, and you can tell the people responsible really cared about making the song lyrics sound all right. Props to the folks who worked on this one.

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Yuri Kuma Arashi-I definitely like its style. The soundtrack is amazing. I've heard it's a metaphor for how homosexuals are treated in society, but it does something a lot of yuri works tend to do: pretty much every character is a lesbian. Instead of portraying the isolation of being a minority in a society full of people who deem their sexuality as non-deviant, I've noticed that a lot of Japanese stories tend to avoid this by making everyone a minority. Besides that, I can't say I have a very in-depth understanding of the show, but I'll probably look into it more when I finish it.

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Finished Hataraki Man. It kinda tapered off and didn't really give me a satisfying conclusion; I'd say it kinda feels like one of those anime that's intended to drive readership to the source material, except that apparently the source material also went on infinite hiatus, so... yeah. A little disappointing. Still, it did end with a solid promise of what was to come, and it still did a lovely job of doing character stories for a lot of the office. No regrets about watching this short but very solid show.

Next up, I'm planning to watch Crest of the Stars and Banner of the Stars, since they're long-standing recommendations to me from @Nandemonai. More retro anime with a recent re-release, here I come!

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Having deleted all the last few non-VN video games from my computer (I guess we're getting into the epilogue part of my years-long struggle) and having no better idea on how to spend my evening, I've watched the first half of the Bunny Senpai show. From what I read about it, I was worried it's going to be an overly-convoluted mess, but so far, it's actually pretty balanced. There's a lot of supernatural phenomena, but every piece of it is more or less a setup for really well-written and heartwarming drama. I'm sure there was a metaphor or two in it that went over my head, but considering how dense I can be when it goes to following philosophical mumble effectively, I've found everything in it fairly straightforward.

I also very much like that it doesn't go overboard with the drama, establishing the main couple very early on and doing things much more interesting than just throwing hurdles at their feet. It's not your typical romantic comedy that is fueled by pointless contrivance and misunderstandings. All the problems in it, even if "fantastical" in their expression, feel rather believable and the chemistry between main characters is just lovely.

All in all, it's engaging, but in a way that nearly reminds me of various "healing" anime - it made me feel all kinds of positive emotion and bond with the characters nearly instantly. We'll see whether it can keep it up past episode 6, but I don't think it'll leave me disappointed despite all the hype. ^_^

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Trying to find something easy and relaxing, I've stalled Bunny Senpai for a bit and tried watching Yuru Camp. It might literally be the first anime I've explicitly decided to drop, after 5 episodes. Usually, I stall things and promise myself to come back one day, but somehow I completely couldn't get into this one. I've enjoyed the Encouragement of Climb series in the past, so I thought this one would be just as enjoyable... But it just tries so hard to be moe and character's mannerisms are so over-the-top.

I thought I'm quite ok with the "cute girls doing cute things" formula and thoroughly enjoyed shows like New Game!, but this is just so empty and over-stylized... I don't get how it can have an 8.3 rating on MAL. :s

Ehm... Going to try Gabriel Dropout, I guess? Trash comedy anime will never fail me. :nico:

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1 hour ago, Corrupted said:

I feel like a trash weeb for enjoying it so much

Being a trash weeb is a bad thing? I think it's something to embrace. :nico:

And staying true to this topic, I really, really enjoyed Gabriel DropOut. Such a nicely balanced, cute show, which just focuses on the humour instead of delivering pointless fanservice or going overboard with "moe". The setting is pretty shallow and characters only get basic amount of development (but to be completely fair, it's still more than most episodic comedy shows do in this regard...), but they work perfectly within the formula and the actual length of the show. It might also be because I'm a sucker for this kind of "role reversal" setups, but I simply had such a great time with it...

It doesn't surprise me it was made by a studio that had its hands in Yuru Yuri and New Game!, I enjoyed those shows to a similar degree.

...I'll probably also give Yuru Camp another try, considering how tired and sleep-deprived I was in the last few days, I don't really trust the impressions I've shared above. :P

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3 hours ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

...I'll probably also give Yuru Camp another try, considering how tired and sleep-deprived I was in the last few days, I don't really trust the impressions I've shared above. :P

I'd appreciate if you made up your mind. Do I call off the hitman I've sent you, or not? :notlikemiya:

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On 27.01.2019 at 12:29 AM, Jun Inoue said:

I'd appreciate if you made up your mind. Do I call off the hitman I've sent you, or not? :notlikemiya:

Uuuuhhh... :isla: I guess it's partially redeemed? I'm definitely going to finish it, but it might still be stuck with a 7/10. I simply don't like the two "secondary" girls that much and it could use a bit more humour? It's cosy for sure, but I guess I'm more easily drawn in when there's something fantastical in the mix, like Aria or Flying Witch, or even the kind of grand adventure A Place Further Than The Universe offers... I lived a good life, I'll leave few regrets... :s

EDIT: BTW, I can't get over the fact that the opening song to this is called "Shiny Days". I guess most people don't have that strong connotation with the term... :D

I've also finished Bunny-girl Senpai and... Well, it's a definite 9/10 for me. I've read some really brutal reviews of it, but I think at least some of them are missing the point. I don't mind that the supernatural stuff is never really explained and I don't even think the "explanations" the show gives are meant to clear up anything. They're there only to steer the action towards the sources of every event and the underlying problems. I don't mind that the protagonist is a bit of a Garu Stu, he genuinely earns most of his "victories", by his compassion and relentless effort, not just by the magic of plot conveniences.

I generally have a shit taste when it goes to movies and anime, and stuff that is forcing an emotional reaction out of the viewer in cheap ways, like Elfen Lied, often got to me in the past. Still, while I can accept the criticism against such titles as legitimate, in this case I feel like people shitting on this show go way overboard, mostly because they want to dispel the notion of it being a "masterpiece". I don't think it is one either, but it was a really engaging and emotional series, and I'm glad it succeeded despite that confusing title and marketing...

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I've just rewatched Nanoha Reflection again (for the the X time, i just can't get enough of it):

And i gotta say i ~april can't come fast enough to see Detonation! (That's when i estimate the BD release)


They did such an amazing job with this reboot, the visuals are amazing, the action, characters and soundtrack amazing as well, i didn't think it was possible to make Nanoha as a character even greater then before but by god they did it!

I really suggest giving this one a go, its mostly Mahou Shoujo in title only, as the main settings are more in the line of military, amazing level of action plus fights:

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And lastly sci fi , plus some cute girls doing cute stuff, that said it has an interesting world build up, interesting lore just freaking awesome, the movies are great!

So yeah... just really excited about the 4th movie Detonation!

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18 hours ago, Strike105X said:

I've just rewatched Nanoha Reflection again (for the the X time, i just can't get enough of it):

Why am I just now finding out Nanoha has a movie series? Eh, might be due to my anime film paranoia, lol. I am digging the visuals, though.

I watched the TV series right around the time I started watching anime online, and I have very fond memories of it (Nanoha is a sweetheart). Will definitely give the movies a shot!

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5 hours ago, Kenshin_sama said:

Why am I just now finding out Nanoha has a movie series? Eh, might be due to my anime film paranoia, lol. I am digging the visuals, though.

I watched the TV series right around the time I started watching anime online, and I have very fond memories of it (Nanoha is a sweetheart). Will definitely give the movies a shot!

The movies are amazing, its also sort of a reboot for the series, Movie 1st is a retelling of the first season plus gives out more insight on Precia/Presea (its the only one out of the movies that feels a bit rushed, i guess its because it was their first try), movie 2nd A's is of course about Hayate and the Tome of the Night Sky, this one was amazing, and movie 3rd is where the reboot properly starts, from what i'm seeing they are mixing in the story from the PSP games with the timeline of Reinforce Zwei (in the original PSP games they didn't killed of the original Reinforce and that was what led to the different timeline) and the armament ideas from Force.

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So, I'm in the middle of watching the Kizumonogatari movies and... Well, I wonder if anyone would be willing to share their honest thoughts about those? I've started with them, as from what I've read they are the earliest pieces of the Monogatari series story-wise, despite being made only recently.

The issue is, while they are definitely different, I'm not sure I see the justification to all the hype? Am I missing something by watching them first? I have a feeling that I might get a migraine if I try to watch all three in one sitting, so I'm probably going to take a break for today after finishing the second one... :wafuu:

 

* I have a three-week break from my Japanese lessons and so far I'm staying faithful to my "no video games" resolution, so you might see me rambling about anime a lot in these coming days. Sorry for the inconvenience. :unsure:

 

Holy fuck, is this all obnoxious gibberish or am I seriously missing something??? :< :S :<

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32 minutes ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

So, I'm in the middle of watching the Kizumonogatari movies and... Well, I wonder if anyone would be willing to share their honest thoughts about those? I've started with them, as from what I've read they are the earliest pieces of the Monogatari series story-wise, despite being made only recently.

The issue is, while they are definitely different, I'm not sure I see the justification to all the hype? Am I missing something by watching them first? I have a feeling that I might get a migraine if I try to watch all three in one sitting, so I'm probably going to take a break for today after finishing the second one... :wafuu:

 

* I have a three-week break from my Japanese lessons and so far I'm staying faithful to my "no video games" resolution, so you might see me rambling about anime a lot in these coming days. Sorry for the inconvenience. :unsure:

 

Holy fuck, is this all obnoxious gibberish or am I seriously missing something??? :< :S :<

To clarify, you are watching these films as the introduction to the series?
A few years ago I tried Bakemonogatari, what I figured was the start of the series at the time; There was a lot of talking, which I'd usually appreciate, but I didn't really understand a bloody thing of what was going on, so I dropped it 4 episodes in. I'd write off the series entirely, but I actually quite liked Katanagatari (not the ending), which I think has no relation besides the name and author.

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2 hours ago, Mr Poltroon said:

To clarify, you are watching these films as the introduction to the series?
A few years ago I tried Bakemonogatari, what I figured was the start of the series at the time; There was a lot of talking, which I'd usually appreciate, but I didn't really understand a bloody thing of what was going on, so I dropped it 4 episodes in. I'd write off the series entirely, but I actually quite liked Katanagatari (not the ending), which I think has no relation besides the name and author.

Yup, this is the first thing from the whole series that I've seen. I don't really write it off, even if the third movie leaves me with as poor of an impression as the first two, as I imagine shows will have a very different structure and pacing - indeed, a lot of talking and cryptic shit happening would be very much preferable over this incoherent collection of avant-garde cuts, obnoxious characters and baffling plot developments. :notlikemiya:

I give the first movie a 7/10 and the second one a 6/10, because they weren't objectively awful, but I feel dead inside after watching them. :vinty:

EDIT: I sense a new wave of assassins coming my way real soon. :wahaha: 

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@Plk_Lesiak Personally, I'd advise starting with Bakemonogatari and then returning to watch the Kizumonogatari movies. The LNs began with Bake, then Kizu. I feel you need Bake's context to care about Kizu's events. And to adjust to the rather unique style. Which may not be for everyone, but Bake eases you into it over the course of a series with slower pacing in neat 25 min packages.

Edit: my other piece of advice would be that yeah, there's a lot of fast talking and it's all quite incomprehensible and bizarre at first. But just... go with the flow and don't think too hard.

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58 minutes ago, Sayaka said:

@Plk_Lesiak Personally, I'd advise starting with Bakemonogatari and then returning to watch the Kizumonogatari movies. The LNs began with Bake, then Kizu. I feel you need Bake's context to care about Kizu's events. And to adjust to the rather unique style. Which may not be for everyone, but Bake eases you into it over the course of a series with slower pacing in neat 25 min packages.

Thanks, maybe I'll postpone watching the last movie till after I've seen it. Still, the first two... Were, in certain aspects at least, quite bad and I'm not sure any amount of context could make them genuinely good. The style can be something to get used to and I'm usually very open-minded when it goes to such stuff. However, the way it was used here, how poor the humour is, how awfully the characters are directed most of the time, the obnoxious fanservice. The fact these are meant to be among the highest-rated anime movies of all time makes me lose a bit of my faith in the medium. :vinty:

And sorry for publicly freaking out BTW, but watching these two movies was really a bad experience for me. And honestly, if I cared about the characters, it might've been even worse - that certain disembowelling scene in the second movie combined with the persistent use of panties as plot device is a bit too much for my stomach.

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Watching Monogatari out of order is a huge mistake, IMO, and is definitely going to kill the experience. Now, you can argue that Kizumonogatari is the right starting place, but the anime airing order is probably better? That said, from personal experience, even if you start at Bakemonogatari, it's a little iffy at times and can feel slow and patchy, until you get used to the way the show works (which takes some time, because I don't know of anything else even remotely like it). But judging by what I've seen of Kizu, it's gonna be a rough intro to the show, where Bake is pretty gentle. It'll still feel like you don't know what's going on a lot of the time (or, it would, if you didn't watch Kizu), but I assume that's kind of the intent, and it's at least a great deal tamer.

Beyond that, you really have to be into the fanservice to get into the show, because the show is never not horny. If you can't stomach fanservice, then you shouldn't force yourself to watch Monogatari, because you're not going to be able to enjoy it. I honestly don't know if it's actually important to the show (it might be? I'd have to refresh and think about it...), but it is definitely just, constantly there. If you're tentative about it, or maybe tentatively okay with fanservice in general but not so much with the specifics of how it was handled in what you watched, then maybe give the show a shot from the start, following the anime airing order—the characters will grow on you.

I didn't really warm up to the series until Nisemonogatari, but once I did, man... At this point, I think it's a phenomenal and utterly unique show, and I get engrossed in it every time I pick up another chunk to watch. Which reminds me that I really need to resume watching it, since I last left off after Hana...

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10 minutes ago, Fred the Barber said:

Beyond that, you really have to be into the fanservice to get into the show, because the show is never not horny. If you can't stomach fanservice, then you shouldn't force yourself to watch Monogatari, because you're not going to be able to enjoy it. I honestly don't know if it's actually important to the show (it might be? I'd have to refresh and think about it...), but it is definitely just, constantly there. If you're tentative about it, or maybe tentatively okay with fanservice in general but not so much with the specifics of how it was handled in what you watched, then maybe give the show a shot from the start, following the anime airing order—the characters will grow on you.

Ok, this is actually a very useful piece of information. I'm usually willing to look past fanservice, but here in Kizu it just feels so forced and out of place... If a series is willing to turn one of its core characters into a pair of boobs on a stick for free whole movies it immidiately loses much of my respect. I don't think the show would ever be this bad, as it would balance things out by giving her and other female character more meaningful roles and spreading the fanservice throughout the plot a bit more, but it still throws the whole series a few positions down my "to watch" list... 

What probably also contributed to my shock is that vampires, wacky visual design, messing with established tropes... Are all things I love. I should be loving something about these movies, even out of context. I should feel intrigued by them, as I can even live with being left in the dark about crucial pieces of the story, more than many other people. I'm somewhat devastated by how off-putting I've found it so far. Even with all the quirks attached, it felt like a very safe bet, but in the end left me feeling slightly ill...

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I started reading the monogatari light novels just recently. From what I've heard, it's inadvisable to start with Kizu if you're part of the anime-only audience, but I was told that it's fine to start off with that if you're reading the source material. I started out by reading Kizu (I'm fairly close to the end of it, too), and I can't say I haven't enjoyed it at all. I have watched Bakemonogatari some time prior to this, but it was long enough that I don't remember it very well.

Not gonna lie, I was a bit weirded out with Bakemonogatari as an anime. I was drawn in by the visual style, the absurdities, and the dialogue, but it just didn't really feel like a proper anime to me. So instead of going forward with the series, I decided to just keep it on hold long enough for me to forget everything, and then I'd pick it back up again with the source material. And from what I've experienced so far, I have no regrets.

I really do love how Nisio writes. His work is so fresh and intriguing, and his style is unlike anything I've seen in any other piece of fiction. I was very impressed with his work in Medaka Box manga (especially when Kumagawa shows up), and Katanamonogatari was a blast too.

Oh, and there really isn't any need for the fanservice at all, but I do think it's hilarious how he'll devote three whole pages to one fanservice scene and make a 4th-wall-breaking joke about it afterwards, lmao.

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2 hours ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

[the fanservice in Kizu] just feels so forced and out of place...

TBH, I feel like the fanservice kind of always feels that way, throughout the whole series. Probably not just a Kizu thing.

Attempt at an explanation: one of the best ways I can think of to describe Monogatari is "surreal", and the incessant, over-the-top horniness is another expression of its surreality.

Maybe? Maybe. Either way, doesn't really make it better or worse. It's just a fact of Monogatari life.

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