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9 minutes ago, Jun Inoue said:
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Very much so.

Funny enough, people try to defend the second work by claiming that the little child never sees the protagonist as her father figure, despite that being kind of literally the point of the show.

 

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Well, people like their creepy romance and I can't say I'm always 100% innocent in this regard (although not really with child/parent plots, there's pretty much no possibility for those to not be fundamentally messed up). But the anime adaptations have a pretty easy job of just taking the good parts of the source material and stopping before the weird stuff truly kicks in. If Usagi Drop managed to do that, maybe UchiMusume also can restrain itself well-enough. :>

 

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2 minutes ago, Plk_Lesiak said:
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Well, people like their creepy romance and I can't say I'm always 100% innocent in this regard (although not really with child/parent plots, there's pretty much no possibility for those to not be fundamentally messed up). But the anime adaptations have a pretty easy job of just taking the good parts of the source material and stopping before the weird stuff truly kicks in. If Usagi Drop managed to do that, maybe UchiMusume also can restrain itself well-enough. :>

 

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Well, I'd say I tend to be 100% fine with it... as long as it's 'porn'. People can get off to whatever they want.

But I personally dislike it when it happens in a narrative work. Like, in these examples, this development completely messes up and ruins their story as a family by recontextualizing the entire work from familial love to 'raising your own waifu'. In Usagi Drop it was especially weird because both father and daughter had very clear 'romantic' interests that the story was pushing (a widow - or was it a divorcee- and her son), then it does some crazy time skip and the daughter is getting ready to marry her own father. The author ruined his own story for a fetish.

 

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So I went on and concluded Machikado Mazoku. I recall watching the first episode and thinking... not terribly much of it. It was good, but didn't really push me to continue watching. That's why I stopped a few months ago when I watched the first episode. That said, now that I restarted it the other day, I quickly finished the whole thing! It turned out to be so good!

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It's wonderfully heart-warming to see our weak protagonist grow stronger and becoming healthier. Getting along more with people, and slowly becoming good friends with her 'enemy'. At the same time, the enemy in question, which never showed herself to be particularly antagonistic, also came to have some of her many heavy burdens relieved by the protagonist.

This kind of stuff is just so good! I really like happy shows about people growing closer and healing and becoming better that don't focus on the bad things in their past or present, but on surpassing them. I feel like there's a whole genre just for me that I've somehow managed to generally miss.

That said, this is a comedy and I really like comedies, so...

Over the course of the series, a narrator is her continuously going "Do your best, [Name]/[Nickname] at the protagonist.", which serves as a generally funny commentary to end segments with. However, with one of the final reveals of the series, a possibility arises... This narrator may be her father, which she hasn't seen since childhood!

The best thing about this series, besides generally funny moments, is how heart-warming it is.

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1 hour ago, Mr Poltroon said:

So I went on and concluded Machikado Mazoku. I recall watching the first episode and thinking... not terribly much of it. It was good, but didn't really push me to continue watching. That's why I stopped a few months ago when I watched the first episode. That said, now that I restarted it the other day, I quickly finished the whole thing! It turned out to be so good!

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It's wonderfully heart-warming to see our weak protagonist grow stronger and becoming healthier. Getting along more with people, and slowly becoming good friends with her 'enemy'. At the same time, the enemy in question, which never showed herself to be particularly antagonistic, also came to have some of her many heavy burdens relieved by the protagonist.

This kind of stuff is just so good! I really like happy shows about people growing closer and healing and becoming better that don't focus on the bad things in their past or present, but on surpassing them. I feel like there's a whole genre just for me that I've somehow managed to generally miss.

That said, this is a comedy and I really like comedies, so...

Over the course of the series, a narrator is her continuously going "Do your best, [Name]/[Nickname]!" at the protagonist., which serves as a generally funny commentary to end segments with. However, with one of the final reveals of the series, a possibility arises... This narrator may be her father, which she hasn't seen since childhood!

The best thing about this series, besides generally funny moments, is how heart-warming it is.

Eh it was a yawnfest for the first few episodes and I gave up. Perhaps I should go back and give it a chance?

/me checks watchlist and sees 18 current shows.

Perhaps not.

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Inspired by the minor vampire theme in Karakara I've decided to finally give a try to a trashy shounen series I had on my to-watch for ages, that is Strike the Blood. It was... Well, like any other harem show really. There were a few things that I definitely liked: the vampires were implemented with no emo BS. The protagonist is OP but flawed enough in his handling of his powers that he gets his ass handed to him on a regular basis, rarely being in actual danger, but having to work for his victories. Also, every time he does win it is very much a team effort, with nearly heroines contributing in meaningful ways. Also, the obvious main heroine is how a complete dumpster fire like it's often the case. The magic system also felt pretty clean at first and the arc-based story structure was kind of refreshing, always building towards something...

But then, around the half of the first season, all the typical problems of harem shows came in force. The harem expanded at an absurd pace with girls getting less and less development. The story started introducing arbitral powers and new forms of magic when in an overly-convenient fashion. The was no real character progression for either the protagonist of the main girl. After episode 19 I simply lost all interest and I'll probably stop there for good. 6/10

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OK, so I had to cancel a trip I've planned months ago and was extremely looking forward to because of the coronavirus mess, so I'm depressed as fuck and indulging in self-pity-driven anime binging. Looking for something slightly more to my taste than harem crap I've watched Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry and... Well, it more or less delivered on the romance, which is refreshing, and the fights were really intense, but the plot was so paper-thin... Very little beyond empty cartoon villains and forced drama. Plus the main girl was just a walking cliche. I really hoped it would capitalize more on the funny-sounding premise (the one with first duel and the loser becoming other person's slave) or do something a bit more fresh, but the structure of the story was very standard and the chemistry between the main couple pretty weak. Hate SAO as much as you want, but I never felt that I didn't believe Kirito and Asuna as a couple. Even the weird "family" part made sense in the confusing and desperate situation of being trapped in that VR hell. Here... Let's just say, I don't think I'll remember much of this show a few months from now. 7/10

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11 hours ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

OK, so I had to cancel a trip I've planned months ago and was extremely looking forward to because of the coronavirus mess, so I'm depressed as fuck

You are not alone in that. Exactly the same thing happened to me. Lost about $600 in the process. I guess I should also watch some comedic anime or something. :makina:

By the way, the vampire talk made me realize how much I want to see my favorite Japanese WN to have an anime adaptation. I know it's not popular, and even the commercial LN release in Japan is pretty much dropped, but I can dream, right?..

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11 hours ago, Dreamysyu said:

You are not alone in that. Exactly the same thing happened to me. Lost about $600 in the process. I guess I should also watch some comedic anime or something.

Harsh... I've only lost around $180, but basically the next opportunity to make this happen will be next March, so I'm extremely frustrated... And I'll be watching a lot of anime while stuck at home for the next few weeks... >.>

11 hours ago, Dreamysyu said:

By the way, the vampire talk made me realize how much I want to see my favorite Japanese WN to have an anime adaptation. I know it's not popular, and even the commercial LN release in Japan is pretty much dropped, but I can dream, right?..

Right, I think you talked about this one in other threads too? This could make for a cool anime... Or a cool VN. :3

Anyway, looking for the emotional comfort of mindless entertainment, I've finished the first season of Strike the Blood after all, along with that season's OVA. It... Was more of the same, but thankfully with a few fun developments between the protagonist and the main girl. While it's still hardly conclusive romance, at least it made her status of protag's future partner very explicit and I at least can appreciate the lack of pointless baiting there.

Also, I've watched SAO: Ordinal Scale, which was like the most SAO thing ever. Dumb, loud, occasionally melodramatic and once more showing that Kirito's magical protagonist powers can surpass any challenge if he bothers to try. And as usual, I really like it. It's the kind of nonsense that just flaws perfectly and throws flashy pictures at you in a way that makes you ignore the obvious stupidity of most things that actually happen. Outside of that cursed Fairy Dance arc, I still can't dislike SAO due to its sheer entertainment factor. And Kirito/Asuna relationship which is pretty refreshing as a constant axis of the story. I even think Asuna's character was handled better than SAO season 2, for the most time being more proactive and reasonable than Kirito. 8/10

Now, for the next thing I watch I'll probably go a little bit more adventurous. Bakemonogatari, let's see if I can stomach you after all...

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So, enjoying that new hikikomori livestyle I was always striving for, I was able to go through the first half of Bakemonogatari... And I was positively surprised. I still consider Kizumonogatari, which was my unfortunate introduction to the franchise, extremely obnoxious and pointlessly grotesque. But so far, Bake turned out to be a lot less whimsical and unsettling than I've expected it to be. The arcs are actually pretty cohesive, while I was worried the show will meander pointlessly. The characters are fun in their over-the-top silliness and their gimmicks are interesting. Experience of Kizu also made me pretty comfortable with the visual gimmicks and abstract storytelling the series relies on and once more, I kind of enjoy them more here than I did in the movies (actually, these were among the very few things I actually liked about the Kizu movies, after a short adjustement period).

Also, surprisingly enough, the fanservice didn't bother me much so far, mostly because it was flowing pretty decently with the overall story. I absolutely abhored how detached and pointless it felt in Kizu. The whole character of Hanekawa felt like fanservice prop there, barely having any other role in the story. Anyway, this series feels very promising, while the extreme praise Kizumonogatari gets still undermines what is left of my faith in humanity. :P

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12 hours ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

So, enjoying that new hikikomori livestyle I was always striving for, I was able to go through the first half of Bakemonogatari... And I was positively surprised. I still consider Kizumonogatari, which was my unfortunate introduction to the franchise, extremely obnoxious and pointlessly grotesque. But so far, Bake turned out to be a lot less whimsical and unsettling than I've expected it to be. The arcs are actually pretty cohesive, while I was worried the show will meander pointlessly. The characters are fun in their over-the-top silliness and their gimmicks are interesting. Experience of Kizu also made me pretty comfortable with the visual gimmicks and abstract storytelling the series relies on and once more, I kind of enjoy them more here than I did in the movies (actually, these were among the very few things I actually liked about the Kizu movies, after a short adjustement period).

Also, surprisingly enough, the fanservice didn't bother me much so far, mostly because it was flowing pretty decently with the overall story. I absolutely abhored how detached and pointless it felt in Kizu. The whole character of Hanekawa felt like fanservice prop there, barely having any other role in the story. Anyway, this series feels very promising, while the extreme praise Kizumonogatari gets still undermines what is left of my faith in humanity. :P

I tried watching Bake at some point, but I was almost immediately turned off due to some tasteless fanservice right at the beginning of the first episode, so decided to read the LN instead, which I got in the recent Humble bundle. As for the LN, my personal problem is that I simply hate the character of Senjougahara, and especially how the MC (forgot his name) reacts to her gimmicks. In the end, I just ended up dropping it pretty early because of that. I'll probably give it another chance at some point, but, I don't know, maybe I'm just tired of these over the top anime-style stories. :vanilla: I've noticed that most Japanese stories that I enjoy recently feel a lot more heavily inspired by Western fiction than the typical stuff. Makes me wonder if I should move on to something else.

On 3/13/2020 at 8:36 PM, Plk_Lesiak said:

but basically the next opportunity to make this happen will be next March, so I'm extremely frustrated...

Well, that sucks. I'm personally pretty free nowadays, so I'll probably be able to travel as soon as this situation changes. Still, I was pretty resolved to spend this year traveling a lot to break away from my depressive lifestyle, and I finally have some free money to afford that, so this situation feels incredibly frustrating.

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On 15.03.2020 at 12:45 PM, Dreamysyu said:

I tried watching Bake at some point, but I was almost immediately turned off due to some tasteless fanservice right at the beginning of the first episode, so decided to read the LN instead, which I got in the recent Humble bundle. As for the LN, my personal problem is that I simply hate the character of Senjougahara, and especially how the MC (forgot his name) reacts to her gimmicks. In the end, I just ended up dropping it pretty early because of that. I'll probably give it another chance at some point, but, I don't know, maybe I'm just tired of these over the top anime-style stories. :vanilla: I've noticed that most Japanese stories that I enjoy recently feel a lot more heavily inspired by Western fiction than the typical stuff. Makes me wonder if I should move on to something else.

I still have such a hard time even imagining how Monogatari could work as a light novel, considering how much the shows rely on abstract visuals, cuts etc... You can do that in manga, but it must require some extremely creative writing to pull off a similar feel with mostly just text. :o

Anyway, I'm nearly done with Bake and my previous impressions mostly stayed, it's really enjoyable in its craziness. I'm also on the exact opposite side when it goes to Senjougahara, I think she's a really cool partner for Araragi and her behaviour makes the romance pretty fun. As harsh as she might be in her words, she's really supportive towards Araragi and encourages his altruistic nature despite also being burdened by the messes he creates. Also, there was a full-on romantic episode suddenly breaking up the Hanekawa's arc and I really enjoyed how impactful it was and how it touched on some really serious themes, like Senjougahara's traumatic past being something she needs time to overcome before she can fully commit to the relationship. Monogatari formula is so wacky that it's often dangerous to dig for actual meaning in it, but the overall story is far from being random nonsense. There's some kind of balance here between the never-ending formal experiment and genuine storytelling, which is more than I'm willing to say about most "avant-garde" popculture. :P And the form itself is deeply unique, always introducing something new and subverting your expectations. Also, the production values and attention to detail are amazing... I mean, I'm not sure I've seen as many interesting elements in the OPs of all other shows I've seen as I did in just Bake.

The fanservice is still the biggest downside, particularly when it suddenly explodes from nowhere with middle-schoolers being the focus. There were situation when I could look past it, like the tension between the protagonist and Nadeko, who clearly has a crush on him, but in most cases it's just deeply off-putting. Also, I imagine for some the core formula itself will be absolutely unwatchable, but I dig it. If not for the awful horniness and some grotesque violence that I'm not sure serves any purpose, I'd rate it extremely high. As it is now... 8/10.

I'll probably take a break before I go to Nise though. This show is somewhat exhausting and I'll probably switch to some massive trash to laugh at and give my brain time to regenerate. Beatless maybe? :nico:

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I'm halfway through W'z, the Hand Shakers sequel. I still don't understand how this show became a thing, but damn, it has all kind of stuff. Yuri bating. Yaoi baiting. Wierd romantic tension between the new protagonist and first show's main couple. All the absurdly cliched and dumb characters from the first series in supporting roles...

Pretty much, it's everything you would expect a Hand Shakers sequel to be, but infinitely more competent. I mean, it's still clunky, visually inconsistent and at times plain ugly, but words can hardly express how barfy and cheap the original was. Even the writing and characters are a major improvement, despite by no means being good – it's a step-up from the ultimate trainwreck of all time to just being amusingly bad. And I somehow find it very fun to watch, probably because of the memories of Hand Shakers being so very much alive in my mind. I'm not sure any bad anime will ever be able to beat it and while this second season is not the same, it satisfies my twisted nostalgia. Maybe it wasn't a mistake after all...?

5/10 so far, and I think it'll stay there. But the joy of seeing arguably the worst anime in history spawning an actual franchise? Priceless. :meguface:

Edit: After finishing W'z, I have to lower my score to 4/10, because some of the new characters proved incredibly obnoxious and once more, the rules of the world and character motivations were all over the place. To be honest, I still don't really know what was the main villain's deal... But I know that the heavily-implied yaoi ending he got with his butler was one of the most glorious things I've seen in crap-tier anime. :D Generally, the second half of the season was a little bit more of the side of "plain dumb" and less "amusingly bizarre". Still, I have no regrets about watching it, as the "so bad it's good" entertainment factor was never fully gone.

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Nisemonogatari... Was interesting, but not as memorable as the first season. There was both less to hate in it (macabre and fanservice were kind of toned down) and less to love (openings were nowhere as catchy and stories were less focused and memorable, occasionally devolving into meandering nonsense I was wary of when approaching this series). I'm also still wondering whether the visuals and the general flow of the series were a little saner or I've just got used to it to this degree... But I think they actually are less over-the-top and I was missing the constant innovation and craziness of Bake. Maybe it's just not doable in the long run, but if I had to give something to Kizu movies is they managed to keep things fresh despite how late in the series' life they showed up...

What I liked about it still is the relationship between Araraki and Senjougahara. People write a lot of weird shit about who is the "main girl" and the romance in Monogatari, but so far it's really straightforward and consistent. With all the harem vibes in this series, Senjougahara's place as Araraki's partner is never really threatened and is developing over time, even when it's not the focus of the current arcs. I'm actually very positively surprised by this and it makes me much more eager to continue watching. I'm not super impressed by the Araraki sisters and their stories, but as the focus is soon going to the "core" heroines, I'm excited to see more... 7.5/10

Edit: And Nekomonogatari: Kuro was... OK. I really don't get what they're going for with the overall lore of this setting sometimes and this arc was spoiled a bit too heavily in the flashbacks to be genuinely interesting. Also, Hanekawa is my least favourite of the core characters at this point. Kind of a shame that Monogatari Series: Second Season opens with another arc of hers, but at least I don't know what that one is about... 7/10

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I've been watching Oregairu for the first time. So far, I'm enjoying it and I hope it gets better as it goes on. Just out of curiosity I watched some scenes of the sequel and the overall quality seems to improve a lot. I hope to have it finished before the new season begins.

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Been watching Darwin's Game and caught up with the Crunchyroll release. So far it's a surprisingly enjoyable take on the death game genre where the main characters are actually likable, the action's good and the moment you see what special ability the main character gets you'll instantly know the creator of this series is probably a Fate fan :sachi:

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Finished Monogatari Series: Second Season and... It was excellent, to the point I was considering rating it 10/10, although my final one will be 9/10. It's everything I hoped for this series to be and a bit more. I loved the focus going away from Araraki and other characters having their time as protagonists, including an unlikely one like Kaiki. I enjoyed all the storylines, particularly the opening and final arc, but every one of them left me with a strong impression. Also, I now want Sengoku to just drop dead and never be seen again, although another part of me really wants to see how she changes after what she went through.

Really, this is the point where the overall formula was already perfected by unlike Nise and Neko: Black, the actual storytelling is also really, really cool. I still don't think this series is extremely deep, but it really doesn't have to be. Its main strengths are the unique form, and unpredictability that set it apart from your typical anime narratives. At the same time, this season was actually emotional and thought-provoking on top of all that. Disturbing at times, but not through visual grotesque that I disliked in Bake and Kizu, but through actual story developments. I'm looking forward to Owarimonogatari now, but I'm probably going to take a break after watching Tsuki... Maybe I'll try Dance in the Vampire Bund? It looks like the kind of bloody mess to be mindlessly enjoyed between more intensive shows. :>

Edit: And I managed to forget about Hanamonogatari? Damn, this series' timeline is so confusing. Anyway, I get I'll get that one done before Vampire Bund too. '^^

Oh, and Beatless was a disappointment. I stalled after episode 8 and I'm not sure I'll ever come back – sadly, it proved to be less comically bad and more straight-up obnoxious. Possible the worst, most hamfisted "do androids have souls?" kind of plot I've seen to date, and there's plenty of bad ones...

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Personally I think the monogatari series is quite deep and does a lot of interesting things. One of the interesting things is how biased the narrative is with it being controlled by the protagonist of each arc. For instance Nadeko with her stories that has 3 different protagonists which each has a completely different understanding of Nadeko as a character.

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9 hours ago, bakauchuujin said:

Personally I think the monogatari series is quite deep and does a lot of interesting things. One of the interesting things is how biased the narrative is with it being controlled by the protagonist of each arc. For instance Nadeko with her stories that has 3 different protagonists which each has a completely different understanding of Nadeko as a character.

Oh, I totally agree, but those arcs are actually standout ones IMO, while the series also has tons of avant-garde nonsense and semi-random babble that people will dig through for meaning that really isn't there. And their conclusion will be that the whole thing is some kind of esoteric masterpiece that most people are simply to dumb to understand, which I don't think is the case.

Still, I was very close to calling Second Season a masterpiece regardless, for reasons stated above. :)

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So, I started watching The Twelve Kingdoms, a 2002 isekai anime, based on a light novel with the same name from 1992. You know, based on the first two episodes, so far it seems pretty amazing! It's strange that I had never heard about this anime until recently.

You know, one of the interesting things when you watch old anime like that is how you recognize some tropes that still appear in the modern media, but are often handled a lot worse and turn into irritating cliches.

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17 hours ago, Dreamysyu said:

So, I started watching The Twelve Kingdoms, a 2002 isekai anime, based on a light novel with the same name from 1992. You know, based on the first two episodes, so far it seems pretty amazing! It's strange that I had never heard about this anime until recently.

You know, one of the interesting things when you watch old anime like that is how you recognize some tropes that still appear in the modern media, but are often handled a lot worse and turn into irritating cliches.

Even the artstyle looks really nice. I guess I'll add it to my massive "to watch" list. ^^

Anyway, I guess it's a nice moment to summarize my last week of anime watching. Tsukimonogatari was a pretty cool prologue to Final Season stuff, although it had the usual problems of an intermission/side story episode. The massive incestuous fanservice section at the beginning was just bonkers. On the other hand, I deeply appreciate the premise of

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Araraki having to stop abusing his vampire powers – I was so fed up with him getting mutilated being the answer to half of the problems in the series. This came like two seasons too late, but is welcome nonetheless.

I also very much like Yotsugi, so every episode that focuses on her is a good one in my book. Generally, it was a good spin on the formula, outside of the excessive middle-schooler-ogling. 7,5/10

Hanamonogatari (which I watched out of airing order, but it's Suruga's epilogue story, so it doesn't matter) was very good, in my opinion not very far from the Second Season stories (which are as good as this series ever gets). A serious story focusing on Kanbaru was kind of missing from every season outside of Bake and this explored her character really nicely. The plot was relatively straightforward and meaningful, with a melancholic, but satisfying conclusion. At first, I was kind of disappointed we won't ever get a real yuri subplot in this series, despite all the lily imagery and the title, but at least what was actually there was satisfying enough. 8/10

Owarimonogatari was pretty meh, to be completely honest. Oikura's arc came out of nowhere and was too over-the-top, without any satisfying mystery or solution. I guess its purpose was primarily to expand Koyomi's story, but I can't say I find his motivations or personality particularly compelling. I don't hate him as a character, but the lesson I took from Second Season is that the less of him there is in the story, the more interesting and enjoyable it becomes. And a whole arc about the roots of his self-righteous asocial tendencies? Borefest. The second arc was... OK, but felt strangely rushed. I think it needed a lot more time to develop the First Servant as a character and make the reader care about the rivalry with Koyomi. As it was, it felt empty despite clear attempts at creating some emotional impact/meaning. Ultimately, the season was a 7/10 for me, probably the weakest one alongside Kizu.

Koyomimonogatari was nostalgic fun in the first episodes and I enjoy the idea of failed investigations without paranormal elements, showing that those grand events from previous series are not the only things happening in the characters' lives. The thing is, while it acts like a cute side story for the most part, it throws some crucial lore bombs and ends with a massively important arc leading straight into Owari S2. It seems there's no such thing as side story in the Monogatari Series, at least if you want to understand anything about what's going on... Anyway, a weird season, but I didn't hate it like some people. 7,5/10.

This leaves me with Owari S2, which I already started watching, but to be honest, I have little drive to go forward. While I see all the story threads coming together... I kind of can't be bothered to care? I'm not even sure if I want some grand conclusion and I don't find Ougi that interesting as an antagonist. In a way, it's kind of antithetical to what I enjoyed in Monogatari to have so kind of grand resolution focusing on Araragi. Maybe it's just me, but while superfans really adore those late instalments, I don't think it can get even close to Second Season... Maybe I'll be proved wrong, but probably will switch to something else before I continue. Maybe it's just fatigue with the overall formula and I'll enjoy it more after a break.

I've also finished the first three instalments of Initial D with my GF. I really like this series and while the first season was kind of slow in developing stuff, with the "clueless genius" protagonist and tons of other cliches kind of lowering my enjoyment, it really only got better over time. Second Stage and Third Stage were pretty awesome in my opinion, with characters being treated more seriously and showing more depth, animation and use of CGI improving massively, races getting genuinely intense... There are still some silly flaws, like over-the-top foreshadowing for some plot developments and overdone romance drama, but generally, a really fun, unique series that goes quite deep into its subject matter and generally strives for realism (that by itself is pretty refreshing). Overall, a solid 8/10 series. I think we're going to watch the cursed Extra Stage OVAs today before going to Stage Four, I wonder how that will go. :P

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So, I'm done with the first season of SNAFU and its OVA and I... Don't really get it? I mean, the general idea sound fun – I've called it reverse Monogatari in my mind, because while that series is about Koyomi solving supernatural problems by being absurdly nice (and self-sacrificing), this is about the protagonist solving everyday problems by being a relentless asshole and misanthrope (and self-sacrificing). The main cast feels well thought out and there's definitely depth in there somewhere, but that first season... It was boring, even by my highly-tolerant standards. Also, I only vaguely care about any of the characters by this point, which is hardly acceptable for a slice-of-life series that definitely tries to be somewhat profound and emotionally engaging despite the generally comedic formula. Also, the supporting cast is very much a mixed bag – the fujoshi jokes weren't very funny in the first place, but stopped being even amusing pretty fast.

I'm often bad at picking up on subtleties of the characters' motivations and relationships in fiction, but even when I try to dig for meaning, I can't find anything particularly compelling about what I've seen. There's some social commentary for sure, but portayed in a rather bland way and with unconvincing solutions. Apart from that, everything is competent, but in no way striking or memorable. So, can't find a reason to give it anything above 7/10.

So, considering how insanely hyped up the light novels are, can anyone help me with understanding it? Is this a poor adaptation? Slow opening chapters? Am I missing something crucial?

Edit: What makes it even weirder is that Hachiman should feel relatable for me, as a cynical loner. Some of his neurotic reactions in the flashbacks definitely resonated with me, but I can't say the same about the core story. :P

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