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Proactive Heroine

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On 12/14/2020 at 5:57 PM, Funnerific said:

PROTIP: Do not click on names which don't have the game name to the right. Those are walking spoilers for their game.

tried with

1.assertive/proactive  

2.competitive/proactive 

3.ambitious/proactive 

4.manipulative/proactive 

=0

11 hours ago, Clephas said:

About 40% of all VN heroines?  Too many VN protags are vegetables who have to have the girls pour their love onto them to get them to come to life, lol.

Not exactly.Type of protagonist you talked usually turn heroine in the same vegetables as they are or they take away her inhumanity if she non-human rather than turn into non-human by themself.Remember how many you can see drama about what is being humans even if it is seinen.That types of characters act this way not because it is they free will and desire, but rather because they follow the program imposed on them by society, following it to extremes. That is why we can often observe that there is no flexibility in the actions and idiocy in this japanese protogonist.Because their characterization consists of a set of cultural attitudes even to the point that we consider such protagonist as self-living propaganda which poisons creativity.

And one thing if author have experience living outside japanese society you can clear see difference in small details even if he write typical cliche story.

Example

https://mangadex.org/chapter/197341/23

https://mangadex.org/chapter/197341/24

It even hard to find a little aggressive heroine in decisions.Almost as they afraid portrays something that contradict the mentality of japanese society for various reason and the don't like it.They rather get rid of such character using "pretending"cliche or kill or use....etc

Authors usually write and draw so called "Japanese Happiness "with friends/釘[杭]は打たれる/sakura/dull embarrassment from characters/collective hyper-socialization rather than write something individual early branched focused.How many protagonist have somehow misanthropic+cynic attitude...?

 

Edit:Is there a novel where protagonist and heroine can consider as dual type protagonist?

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5 hours ago, Mr Poltroon said:

I recommend Rimu from Master Magistrate.
...But this isn't really a typical romance VN, so her route only occurs at the very end, and through the middle you only get a vague impression.

I m little afraid of Rimu character design.It not the type of character i have interest.

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On 12/16/2020 at 12:00 AM, NoteSi said:

tried with

1.assertive/proactive  

2.competitive/proactive 

3.ambitious/proactive 

4.manipulative/proactive 

=0

Edit:Is there a novel where protagonist and heroine can consider as dual type protagonist?

Wdym =0?

https://vndb.org/c/all?q=&fil=gender-f.trait_inc-74~1192.tagspoil-0.role-primary

https://vndb.org/c/all?q=&fil=gender-f.trait_inc-74~1307.tagspoil-0.role-primary

https://vndb.org/c/all?q=&fil=gender-f.trait_inc-74~1504.tagspoil-0.role-primary

https://vndb.org/c/all?q=&fil=gender-f.trait_inc-74~1683.tagspoil-0.role-primary

 

And in response to your last question, if I understand you correctly and you want a heroine who is treated by the game as MC and has a lot of parts from her PoV and choices, https://vndb.org/v5746

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