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Once I saw the word japanese politician and censorship laws in the title I first feared this would be about japanese government wanting more censorship, really nice that it was about potentially reconsidering parts of the mosaic censorship BS. I mean even if it isn't likely to happen it at least wasn't the bad news I thought it was going to be the few sec before I started reading through the tweet.

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Usually I'm against censorship in any form, just as a matter of principle. Still, having mosaic censorship doesn't take away much from the experience for me. I have seen vaginas before, in real life, in video, animated and in pictures, that's not the exciting part anyway.

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Ironically, I'm not a fan of Japanese porn so it's hard for me to even assess how much of a bother it is to deal with mosaics frequently, but I'd be just happy to see these weird and antiquated laws gone.

I mean, I'm probably missing some important cultural context, but I can't come up with any situation in which mosaics would serve an actual purpose if they just (barely) cover genitals. And laws influence society just as society influences the legal code, so doing away with dumb laws is always a double gain.

Probably won't happen, because keeping up this grotesque farce of "protecting public decency" is still in some politians'/groups' interest and the political currents in Japan are not exactly progressive nowadays...

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There is a phenomenon that a lot of people don't account for... the fact that a large portion of eroge players can't get it up for uncensored material.  The mosaics become more sexy than the underlying artwork *Clephas happens to be one of these*

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13 minutes ago, Clephas said:

There is a phenomenon that a lot of people don't account for... the fact that a large portion of eroge players can't get it up for uncensored material.  The mosaics become more sexy than the underlying artwork *Clephas happens to be one of these*

+1 to that list here

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To be more serious, this probably applies primarily to straight-out rl porn.  I doubt the industry is going to bother changing its traditions even if politicians decide they like uncensored more, lol.

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19 minutes ago, Clephas said:

To be more serious, this probably applies primarily to straight-out rl porn.  I doubt the industry is going to bother changing its traditions even if politicians decide they like uncensored more, lol.

I think some companies like Clock up and Empress would probably want to release uncensored.

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Just now, bakauchuujin said:

I think some companies like Clock up and Empress would probably want to release uncensored.

More likely, they would include both censored and uncensored versions in the final release. 

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4 hours ago, Ruberick said:

Usually I'm against censorship in any form, just as a matter of principle. Still, having mosaic censorship doesn't take away much from the experience for me. I have seen vaginas before, in real life, in video, animated and in pictures, that's not the exciting part anyway.

But we could also be getting rid of the mosaic covering the penis, and that is the exciting part!

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Bollocks, there is most definitely a large minority of eroge makers and pornographers that will kill themselves to be able to release uncensored material if there's any way to interpret the law in such a way that allows it, even if there's huge social inertia. Don't go thinking they're all happy about their current mosaics and want them intact, even if there is a big group that's comfortable with the status quo.

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7 hours ago, Stormwolf said:

I mean, if you don't agree with me when you read what i said, i doubt me explaining anything will do any good. I've been long enough on the internet.

I mean I guess I don’t find any of them particularly baffling, but it wasn’t a challenge I’m just asking you to elaborate.

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On 11/20/2019 at 6:03 PM, tahu157 said:

I mean I guess I don’t find any of them particularly baffling, but it wasn’t a challenge I’m just asking you to elaborate.

Western people being afraid of (possibly) soon having to see uncensored genitalia in their games. This should be baffling to any non japanese.

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1 hour ago, Stormwolf said:

Western people being afraid of (possibly) soon having to see uncensored genitalia in their games. This should be baffling to any non japanese.

The only one who mentioned prefering Mosaics is Clephas which was a short mention in one of his posts, other than that it has either been people for removal of mosaics or people who don't care. One western person who has read a shit ton of japanese VNs prefering mosaics does not really equate western people being afraid of seeing uncensored genitalia.

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2 hours ago, Stormwolf said:

Western people being afraid of (possibly) soon having to see uncensored genitalia in their games. This should be baffling to any non japanese.

I have a history of having read hundreds of completely CG-free books, mostly high and epic fantasy. My idea of a jolly good time is reading pages upon pages of environmental setpieces and make-believe socio-economics. VNs are mostly scratching my itch for fast-paced character driven narrative and slice of life stories I have besides that and the CGs are moodmakers, I could do without from the getgo. For example, I didn't mind the old crude Higurashi stuff at all, for me the story comes first, second and last and should be entertaining. So within that, for me, unnecessary quality of life feature, a change may or may not occur, that's my take on this.

Still, I recognize effort that was put into CGs, Sprites, Animations, etc. and these may very well improve the overall feel/mood of a VN. Genitalia being uncensored or not just happens to rank very low on my priority list.

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On 11/19/2019 at 6:27 PM, bakauchuujin said:

I think some companies like Clock up would probably want to release uncensored.

I think they should release a more censored all ages version of Maggot Baits.  Watching fictional characters get butchered is some weak sauce; I need the whole novel to get butchered in order to really get into it.

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On 11/21/2019 at 1:59 PM, Stormwolf said:

Western people being afraid of (possibly) soon having to see uncensored genitalia in their games. This should be baffling to any non japanese.

I prefer mosaic over badly drawn genitalia, but if uncensored becomes the norm, eroge artist might stop being lazy when drawn bits that usually get censored!  

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