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I'm leaving Fuwanovel, because I'm starting to realize that this community and the VN community at large has hurt me.


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Honestly I can never understand why some people want to leave Fuwanovel in such a bombastic way, because they can always come back whenever they want (And they can just write a farewell message and be done with it). Then again it's normal if people want attention and that some people did want to achieve it in their own bombastic way (That's extend to Dark_blade64 even though he's just joining in), although dragging people into the discussion that was already settled for a long time is not cool at all. Besides like Novurdim said we assume all people here are adults, and therefore have been assume that they already reasonable enough to understand that some (If not most) VNs here did have porn and also capable to differentiate between fiction and real life (So if both of the OP and Dark_blade64 felt hurt by the porn, then I'll just assume that they still not ready for it). I guess that's all for what I can say here, and sorry for my baggage here.

PS - By the way play euphoria at 15 here is not something that I can call as healthy activity here, but I guess the damage is already done.

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3 minutes ago, littleshogun said:

By the way play euphoria at 15 here is not something that I can call as healthy activity here, but I guess the damage is already done.

Certainly. Even though I'm an adult (at least age-wise :P) I'm not touching it with a ten foot pole, as I'm pretty sure it would hurt me even now. I'm just too sensitive for this shit.

Not porn, and it definitely is veeeery innocent compared to things like euphoria, but I watched "Cube" when I was 15 I think, and I was seriously disturbed by it. OTOH thanks to this I know what to avoid...

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On 6/18/2019 at 11:31 AM, littleshogun said:

Honestly I can never understand why some people want to leave Fuwanovel in such a bombastic way, because they can always come back whenever they want (And they can just write a farewell message and be done with it). Then again it's normal if people want attention and that some people did want to achieve it in their own bombastic way (That's extend to Dark_blade64 even though he's just joining in), although dragging people into the discussion that was already settled for a long time is not cool at all. Besides like Novurdim said we assume all people here are adults, and therefore have been assume that they already reasonable enough to understand that some (If not most) VNs here did have porn and also capable to differentiate between fiction and real life (So if both of the OP and Dark_blade64 felt hurt by the porn, then I'll just assume that they still not ready for it). I guess that's all for what I can say here, and sorry for my baggage here.

PS - By the way play euphoria at 15 here is not something that I can call as healthy activity here, but I guess the damage is already done.

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7 hours ago, adamstan said:

Certainly. Even though I'm an adult (at least age-wise :P) I'm not touching it with a ten foot pole, as I'm pretty sure it would hurt me even now. I'm just too sensitive for this shit.

Not porn, and it definitely is veeeery innocent compared to things like euphoria, but I watched "Cube" when I was 15 I think, and I was seriously disturbed by it. OTOH thanks to this I know what to avoid...

I guess I'm the exact opposite. I've been watching all kind of weird shit imaginable since a very, very young age (11-12 yo). It never really bothered me, and while you might argue that "it surely must have had consequences in your psyche that you're not aware of yourself", the fact is that I'm not a violent person AT ALL, I've never been in a physical fight in my entire life and I don't have any sort of weird inclinations. I can see someone getting ripped off and torn into pieces on a screen without even flinching, but when it comes to real life, I struggle to even cook my meat when I have to look at a dead chicken or rabbit. 

It all comes down to empathy, I think. I do find hard to watch when bad things happen to characters I care about, but since most gore media's goal is not exactly to make characters you particularly care about, the imagery by itself can't stir up any powerful emotions in me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

What I'm trying to say is that while I can't relate to lolicon fans or people who enjoy some good ol' rape in their VNs, I do know where they are coming from when they say they keep it completely separate from reality. After all, I know I'm no psychopath even though I don't feel anything while seeing random people suffer in a gore movie.

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Well, I guess what disturbed me the most in the example I brought up wasn't "gore" imagery, as the movie is rather tame in that regard, and, after all, I don't have any problems with blasting enemies to pieces in shooter games, but just what you described later - suffering of the characters, and completely fucked up premise (incidentally, not completely unlike euphoria).

I agree with you, that it boils down to individual sensitivity - I just happen to know mine, and so I avoid certain themes or settings, since after all I don't read VNs to torture myself. And even if it obviously won't harm everybody, still I think that those "+18" ratings are there for a reason, and it's better to be safe than sorry, and avoid such things while being sensitive teenager. It probably won't turn you into psychopath - but it may leave some nasty scars. (by "you" I obviously mean the reader/viewer, not @Thyndd personally)

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